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EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
April 04 2013 06:47 GMT
#1081
But if you wait in base you don't have time to do wraiths/wolves? That hurts you a lot tbh.
wat
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
April 04 2013 06:48 GMT
#1082
On April 04 2013 15:41 TheYango wrote:
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Where's the boss AP Garen / Darius / whatever type? Normal male sorcerer?

AP Tryndamere obviously.


You forget the ever-fabulous Taric.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 04 2013 07:04 GMT
#1083
On April 04 2013 15:21 Sufficiency wrote:
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On April 04 2013 15:12 onlywonderboy wrote:
On April 04 2013 15:03 sob3k wrote:
On April 04 2013 14:39 TheYango wrote:
On April 04 2013 14:33 sob3k wrote:
Lissandra scaling looks terrible, is she supposed to be a support? Looks like it to me.

She's appropriately scaled for a champ that has 4 nukes.


Hm, I guess she is ok, ult scaling is a bit underwhelming

there are champs with much better scaling on 4 nukes, brand for instance (lol ap ezreal), plus his passive. But I guess she looks ok, you are trading 1.0 ult scaling for lots of utilty on her.

Her Q looks realllly short range from the vid, i guess you hit with the blow though....wonder how far that goes

That passive is really fucking lame though, either it does like nothing or its just a big gimp to her kit that slows her down a ton. She should get a real passive and they just adjust her costs to how they want her to play out.


The wording is a little weird, from what I can tell from playing is the skill doesn't hit and explode like a Vi punch, it's more like Zyra's roots where it just travels the distance and damages everything along the path, the secondary targets just aren't slowed.


0.7 AP ratio on a point-and-click AOE nuke with utility is very good. It's the base damage that is really bad.

I was just explaining how it worked mechanically. The skill itself is fine, just shorter than I anticipated based on the text description.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 07:18:14
April 04 2013 07:17 GMT
#1084
Goodbye volibear my friend, fotm status + new skin means inevitable nerfs in the next patch

New champ looks awesome
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 04 2013 07:20 GMT
#1085
On April 04 2013 16:04 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 15:21 Sufficiency wrote:
On April 04 2013 15:12 onlywonderboy wrote:
On April 04 2013 15:03 sob3k wrote:
On April 04 2013 14:39 TheYango wrote:
On April 04 2013 14:33 sob3k wrote:
Lissandra scaling looks terrible, is she supposed to be a support? Looks like it to me.

She's appropriately scaled for a champ that has 4 nukes.


Hm, I guess she is ok, ult scaling is a bit underwhelming

there are champs with much better scaling on 4 nukes, brand for instance (lol ap ezreal), plus his passive. But I guess she looks ok, you are trading 1.0 ult scaling for lots of utilty on her.

Her Q looks realllly short range from the vid, i guess you hit with the blow though....wonder how far that goes

That passive is really fucking lame though, either it does like nothing or its just a big gimp to her kit that slows her down a ton. She should get a real passive and they just adjust her costs to how they want her to play out.


The wording is a little weird, from what I can tell from playing is the skill doesn't hit and explode like a Vi punch, it's more like Zyra's roots where it just travels the distance and damages everything along the path, the secondary targets just aren't slowed.


0.7 AP ratio on a point-and-click AOE nuke with utility is very good. It's the base damage that is really bad.

I was just explaining how it worked mechanically. The skill itself is fine, just shorter than I anticipated based on the text description.


Yea I was kind of trying to join the original topic of discussion, which was her scaling.
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
April 04 2013 07:41 GMT
#1086
Lissandra is definitely going to be an interesting champion. I'm looking forward to mind games with E. Without a doubt I'm maxing that first because that way my opponent won't be able to tell the difference between me clearing waves and going in for the kill.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 07:52:03
April 04 2013 07:49 GMT
#1087
Numbers-wise it seems like the way to go will be to get 3 ranks E (so that E and W have same CD), then max Q (since max rank Q gets its CD low enough that you can chain a second one off your R+W), giving you a level 11 combo of R->Q->E->W->Q, which has 945+3.2xAP burst damage and ~4-5 seconds of stun/slow/root.

You can also do something like Q->Flash->W->E away->R self->jump to E->Q in a fight.
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GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
April 04 2013 07:51 GMT
#1088
How come there are champions like teemo and kog'maw who have had like 8 skins made for them while champions like Skarner haven't had a new skin since release?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 04 2013 07:52 GMT
#1089
On April 04 2013 16:51 GettingIt wrote:
How come there are champions like teemo and kog'maw who have had like 8 skins made for them while champions like Skarner haven't had a new skin since release?

Riot makes more skins for popular champions cuz if the champion is popular the skin typically sells better.
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RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 08:06:23
April 04 2013 08:06 GMT
#1090
Anyone else getting lag spikes, and bugsplats on NA server?

And, Lissandra looks like she might be that champion that I enjoy that isn't an ADC. I'm excited.
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ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
April 04 2013 08:25 GMT
#1091
On April 04 2013 16:52 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 16:51 GettingIt wrote:
How come there are champions like teemo and kog'maw who have had like 8 skins made for them while champions like Skarner haven't had a new skin since release?

Riot makes more skins for popular champions cuz if the champion is popular the skin typically sells better.


Dont forget the mass of skins after a rework or big patch.
KCCO!
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
April 04 2013 08:39 GMT
#1092
K time to get all 4 anivia skins. My wallet is ready.

Red pot opening won't be missed. I am going to be really sad though because lissandra looks like every melee's nightmare.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 09:00:32
April 04 2013 08:58 GMT
#1093
I really feel like they need to make some other openings for non-mana champs viable if they nerf red pot. Currently mana champs can open Fearie(+pots and wards), Flask(+pots and wards) or a mix of pots and wards while it feels like non-mana champs can only really open 9pots+2wards. Unless you're building ravaneous hydra but who builds that?
wat
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 09:04:12
April 04 2013 09:03 GMT
#1094
not sure if troll. you're complaining that nonmana champs have an additional 180g they don't have to commit to? l0l
seriously though, cloth+5 is still pretty hot
cool beans
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
April 04 2013 09:18 GMT
#1095
On April 04 2013 14:51 NeoIllusions wrote:
Red elixir opening was almost getting as stale as S2 boots opening.

yes because 9 hp pots+ 2wards is so much better
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 10:28:58
April 04 2013 10:25 GMT
#1096
I'm complaining that it's boring I'm not going to be able to open with something aggressive (similar to old boots opening or current red pot opening) without getting dominated in lane. I guess I was rather unclear on that though.

Edit: Now we'll have a lot more 9pot+2ward openings which only makes the early laning phase even more boring.
wat
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
April 04 2013 10:29 GMT
#1097
On April 04 2013 19:25 EquilasH wrote:
I'm complaining that it's boring I'm not able to open with something aggressive (similar to old boots opening or current red pot opening) without getting dominated in lane. I guess I was rather unclear on that though.

Edit: Now we'll have a lot more 9pot+2ward openings which only makes the early laning phase even more boring.


You could open cloth 5 and play aggressive anyways. You don't necessarily have to do more damage than the other guy, you just have to take less in order to outtrade.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
April 04 2013 10:30 GMT
#1098
On April 04 2013 09:50 NeoIllusions wrote:
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On April 04 2013 09:46 mr_tolkien wrote:
Note to self : 6 BTs Zed isn't really THAT effective


You can probably insta-gib someone with Zed off 2 BTs and some other Offensive items. (Bruta, LW, etc). Don't think you need that many BTs.

Yeah, I know. But I went roleplay one game. I had 520cs and 34 kills, I had to try SOMETHING.

Well, 6 BTs isn't that fun.
The legend of Darien lives on
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
April 04 2013 10:32 GMT
#1099
On April 04 2013 19:29 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 19:25 EquilasH wrote:
I'm complaining that it's boring I'm not able to open with something aggressive (similar to old boots opening or current red pot opening) without getting dominated in lane. I guess I was rather unclear on that though.

Edit: Now we'll have a lot more 9pot+2ward openings which only makes the early laning phase even more boring.


You could open cloth 5 and play aggressive anyways. You don't necessarily have to do more damage than the other guy, you just have to take less in order to outtrade.


If I open cloth 5 in Diamond 1 I'll be getting camped so much that I can't play aggressively anyway, since the jungler will realize I'm the only lane without a ward.
wat
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
April 04 2013 10:35 GMT
#1100
Yep, and then you can't all in because he has red pot, no real solution thats why they're nerfing it.
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