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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 04 2013 15:27 GMT
#1121
On April 05 2013 00:25 LateralusGaming wrote:
Having a chance to first hand try out all the new stuff Riot is pumping out, I can tell this new mega freiljord patch is going to be amazing.

All the reworks are amazingly well done, all the new skins they're producing look extremely good as well and you can tell they're putting a lot of effort into everything that they're throwing into this thing. The new Howling Abyss map is well thought out, and everything just looks so good.

tl;dr: I'm excited.

I keep somehow forgetting about the new map. I'm so excited for the queue the map keeps slipping my mind.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
April 04 2013 15:30 GMT
#1122
I'm still coming to terms with the fact that a mode like this is going to have match-making ~_~ At least they haven't the pretense of "Ranked" with it.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
April 04 2013 15:31 GMT
#1123
On April 05 2013 00:30 Cedstick wrote:
I'm still coming to terms with the fact that a mode like this is going to have match-making ~_~ At least they haven't the pretense of "Ranked" with it.


It's nice to have it and way better than going through Customs to do it.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 04 2013 15:32 GMT
#1124
On April 05 2013 00:27 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 00:25 LateralusGaming wrote:
Having a chance to first hand try out all the new stuff Riot is pumping out, I can tell this new mega freiljord patch is going to be amazing.

All the reworks are amazingly well done, all the new skins they're producing look extremely good as well and you can tell they're putting a lot of effort into everything that they're throwing into this thing. The new Howling Abyss map is well thought out, and everything just looks so good.

tl;dr: I'm excited.

I keep somehow forgetting about the new map. I'm so excited for the queue the map keeps slipping my mind.

Speaking of forgetting new maps...


RIOT. DOMINION RANKED. WTF MATE.
It's your boy Guzma!
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 04 2013 15:34 GMT
#1125
On April 05 2013 00:30 Cedstick wrote:
I'm still coming to terms with the fact that a mode like this is going to have match-making ~_~ At least they haven't the pretense of "Ranked" with it.

It's a fun mode to play with friends, match-making doesn't have to mean serious tryhard mode. I know people hate that Dominion doesn't have Ranked, but I will be money more people play ARAM than Dominion.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11630 Posts
April 04 2013 15:34 GMT
#1126
So, random thought:

From what i read, the new howling abyss map is Ashe vs Sejuani themed. They also implement a new matchfinding for ARAMs on that map. And we all know that riot keeps extensive statistics about a lot of things in the game. Do you think they might let this stuff influence the lore? Like, for example, after a few months they look at which side won more often on that map, and make that the deciding factor to who wins that war in Freljord? That would be pretty cool in my opinion, though it would probably be hard to really make this work. Maybe if they allow people to queue for one side specifically, or just declare which side they fight for.

Would be really cool to be able to influence the happenings in Runeterra through our matches, though it is probably not too easy to make this work in a cool way.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
April 04 2013 15:45 GMT
#1127
So, I imagine other people have said this, but Lissandras kit looks really REALLY goddamn OP.

Like season 2 Ezreal levels of why the fuck would you not play Lissandra.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
April 04 2013 15:46 GMT
#1128
Howling Abyss is not Ashe/Sejuani themed. If you look at the structures and some of the figures scattered around in the scenery it's pretty clear that it's some kind of monument of the battle between the ancient heroes of old and the ice watchers (plus Lissandra). There wasn't really any clue about what it was until the reveal yesterday.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
April 04 2013 15:52 GMT
#1129
On April 05 2013 00:45 Ketara wrote:
So, I imagine other people have said this, but Lissandras kit looks really REALLY goddamn OP.

Like season 2 Ezreal levels of why the fuck would you not play Lissandra.


eh, really bad passive

Q is really short range, really weak base damage and slow starts out negligible
W is fat CD and melee range, and is only a root, so other mids can still retaliate on you
E Worse scaling/base than Annie Q, fat CD
Ult is nearly melee range but looks prtty solid
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 04 2013 15:55 GMT
#1130
I'm not sure how you determined that 725 range is "really short range".
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 04 2013 15:56 GMT
#1131
I have a strong feeling she'll be fine. Having a lot of CC and mobility on a mage makes them fairly easy to balance (look at Ahri for example). If you want them to do more damage, you reduce their mobility or control. If you want them to have more control, you compensate by reducing damage.

I personally think (hope) that she'll lean towards the latter.
It's your boy Guzma!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 16:00:05
April 04 2013 15:59 GMT
#1132
Ahri hardly has "a lot of mobility and CC". She has a good mobility ult and 1 unreliable single-target CC.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 04 2013 16:06 GMT
#1133
On April 05 2013 00:59 TheYango wrote:
Ahri hardly has "a lot of mobility and CC". She has a good mobility ult and 1 unreliable single-target CC.

Having a fairly easy to land hard CC and 3 dashes is more than most mages can boast. Aside from Kass, I can't think of a mage (in this case mage meaning "squishy AP champ generally played midlane") who can move around as much.
It's your boy Guzma!
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
April 04 2013 16:16 GMT
#1134
Hi I'm Katarina and you can't gank me.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
April 04 2013 16:19 GMT
#1135
On April 05 2013 01:06 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 00:59 TheYango wrote:
Ahri hardly has "a lot of mobility and CC". She has a good mobility ult and 1 unreliable single-target CC.

Having a fairly easy to land hard CC and 3 dashes is more than most mages can boast. Aside from Kass, I can't think of a mage (in this case mage meaning "squishy AP champ generally played midlane") who can move around as much.


Kennen? Gragas (Maybe not that squishy)?

So I tried that TeamSummon thing Protatomonster put out, don't really understand the matchmaking. First it matches me with a silver 5 that isn't very good, then with a guy who leagues the matchup immediately, and then a guy who plays a killer Xin and carried.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 04 2013 16:19 GMT
#1136
On April 05 2013 01:16 Cloud9157 wrote:
Hi I'm Katarina and you can't gank me.

Kat also has 0 CC.

Melee assassins are a whole nother ball game, anyway. They need at least a measure of mobility to be useful in the slightest.
It's your boy Guzma!
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
April 04 2013 16:23 GMT
#1137
On April 05 2013 00:52 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 00:45 Ketara wrote:
So, I imagine other people have said this, but Lissandras kit looks really REALLY goddamn OP.

Like season 2 Ezreal levels of why the fuck would you not play Lissandra.


eh, really bad passive

Q is really short range, really weak base damage and slow starts out negligible
W is fat CD and melee range, and is only a root, so other mids can still retaliate on you
E Worse scaling/base than Annie Q, fat CD
Ult is nearly melee range but looks prtty solid


Passive makes her first skill on every creep wave cost 0 mana, which can be a max level E that will hit the whole wave and kill the three ranged creeps.

725 range is not a short range on her Q, it's 100 more range than anything Ryze has, especially considering when she has a 1000 range teleport (longer than Khazix's evolved jump)

W cooldown at level 5 with max CDR is 6 seconds. That's a 1.5 second AoE root on a 6 second cooldown, how is that a long CD?


She'll have stupid fast waveclear that costs 0 mana.

She'll have ridiculous initiation. E into the enemy team, only teleport to it if you can root a bunch of champions, and then when you do it you have an on demand Amumu ult that also makes you invulnerable to damage.

Her ganks will be absurd again with a teleporting root and a slow after that.

She'll be silly safe because any time somebody jumps her she can root and then teleport away.

Her Q can poke champs that are hiding behind minions.

Don't understand your points at all, none of them seem to make any sense.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 16:31:05
April 04 2013 16:29 GMT
#1138
Talking about W CD at max rank seems a bit silly because from the get-go it clearly looks like the skill you'll max last.

As far as initiation goes, I wouldn't rely on E because the projectile is too slow, and you lose a lot of damage if you don't hit people with it. Either Flash->R or Flash->W, and use E to hit people already slowed/rooted.
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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 16:34:18
April 04 2013 16:33 GMT
#1139
Looks to me like you'll max Q last.

Q gets 35 damage, 0.5 secs cd and 3% slow on one target per rank.

W gets 40 damage, 2 secs cd and 0.1 sec AoE root per rank.

E gets 45 damage and 3 secs cd per rank.

I'd do something like QEEW and then R>E>W>Q at first glance. Build semi tanky and use her to initiate and zone, save the sustained damage for late game.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 04 2013 16:33 GMT
#1140
I'm going to rush Zhonya on her in every game, then self-R -> W -> Zhonya in every teamfight and cackle maniacally.
It's your boy Guzma!
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