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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
March 31 2013 18:52 GMT
#81
Why TL focusing inferior games like SC2 and dota 2?

LOL IS NEW BW IN KR #MLGNOSCOPESWAGYOLO
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 31 2013 18:52 GMT
#82
Also, Lunari ftw. Diana has the best theme song in the game (except maybe Thresh).

It's so much better than Leona's... wait a second she doesn't have one.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 31 2013 18:53 GMT
#83
On April 01 2013 03:49 ticklishmusic wrote:
So in the interest of starting a (now allowed) GP5 discussion...

Avarice blade is pretty good. Lets say the crit part is worth 500 gold. Since the item costs 800 gold, that means you need a total of 300 gold from its two passives to make it worth it.

Now you're getting an addition 3gp10, which works out to an extra 18 gold per minute. Let's say you're the AD and you're a competent last hitter and average around 10 CS a minute-- so that's 20 gold a minute. Therefore, it gives an effective 38 gold per minute. The item therefore pays off in about 8 minutes.

+10% crit is also an effective 20% increase in DPS I think-- since a crit does 200% damage,100% crit would be an effective 200% increase, so 10% is 20%.

I can actually see Avarice being good if you can find a good time to back early enough for it in a 2v1 lane. Similar to Midas in DotA, uneven lanes allow you to more or less free-farm irrelevant of your item selection, meaning the item can make up its value well before it actually matters if you buy it early enough. The problem is finding a good time to back in a 2v1 lane to get it without missing more creeps than it's worth. If you back with like 1650 after getting a dive kill + tower, there's no reason to get the Avarice over a BF Sword.
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-31 18:58:28
March 31 2013 18:53 GMT
#84
How can you make one choose between Sun-tan and Moon-chan?

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[image loading]


Avarice Blade is also core on Gangplank

the new Tiamat -> Hydra + Avarice Blade allows you (with proper lane and minion management) to kill 5-6 units with a single AOERANGEDPARLEYFARM of + 70 gold
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35127 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-31 18:56:20
March 31 2013 18:55 GMT
#85
On April 01 2013 03:49 ticklishmusic wrote:
So in the interest of starting a (now allowed) GP5 discussion...

Avarice blade is pretty good. Lets say the crit part is worth 500 gold. Since the item costs 800 gold, that means you need a total of 300 gold from its two passives to make it worth it.

Now you're getting an addition 3gp10, which works out to an extra 18 gold per minute. Let's say you're the AD and you're a competent last hitter and average around 10 CS a minute-- so that's 20 gold a minute. Therefore, it gives an effective 38 gold per minute. The item therefore pays off in about 8 minutes.

+10% crit is also an effective 20% increase in DPS I think-- since a crit does 200% damage,100% crit would be an effective 200% increase, so 10% is 20%.

Only way I see it working is if you're going 21/0/9 or 19/0/11 for lifesteal mastery with LS quints. It's the setup used by people that want to rush IE but not put themselves super behind on finishing it because of Vamp. Of course it just ends up putting you 700g behind anyway that you have to make up... I guess if you started Glove2 it wouldn't be completely awful.



Not like I care or anything...baka.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 31 2013 18:55 GMT
#86
best spoiler Kupon3ss
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-31 19:04:08
March 31 2013 19:01 GMT
#87
On April 01 2013 03:53 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 03:49 ticklishmusic wrote:
So in the interest of starting a (now allowed) GP5 discussion...

Avarice blade is pretty good. Lets say the crit part is worth 500 gold. Since the item costs 800 gold, that means you need a total of 300 gold from its two passives to make it worth it.

Now you're getting an addition 3gp10, which works out to an extra 18 gold per minute. Let's say you're the AD and you're a competent last hitter and average around 10 CS a minute-- so that's 20 gold a minute. Therefore, it gives an effective 38 gold per minute. The item therefore pays off in about 8 minutes.

+10% crit is also an effective 20% increase in DPS I think-- since a crit does 200% damage,100% crit would be an effective 200% increase, so 10% is 20%.

I can actually see Avarice being good if you can find a good time to back early enough for it in a 2v1 lane. Similar to Midas in DotA, uneven lanes allow you to more or less free-farm irrelevant of your item selection, meaning the item can make up its value well before it actually matters if you buy it early enough. The problem is finding a good time to back in a 2v1 lane to get it without missing more creeps than it's worth. If you back with like 1650 after getting a dive kill + tower, there's no reason to get the Avarice over a BF Sword.


The Bestfriend Sword is probably going to be a larger increase in DPS-- probably something like 50%+. However, it's also much more expensive. I recommend building an Avarice blade and stacking crit items then praying to the RNG gods.

For example, let's say you have 90 atk. The BF sword is going to be a 50% increase in DPS for 1550 gold.

Or you can buy an Avarice Blade for 800 and a cloak of agility for 730. That works out to be an effective 50% increase in DPS for TWENTY GOLD LESS. YOU SIR HAVE BEEN OUTMATHED.

Plus you get the entire WTF HAXX thing from your opponent when you start hitting crits on him. He just won't see it coming.

+ Show Spoiler +
4/1


In the interest of thinking this through, Arpen "scales" better with crit than just attack damage items too.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
March 31 2013 19:06 GMT
#88
On April 01 2013 04:01 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 03:53 TheYango wrote:
On April 01 2013 03:49 ticklishmusic wrote:
So in the interest of starting a (now allowed) GP5 discussion...

Avarice blade is pretty good. Lets say the crit part is worth 500 gold. Since the item costs 800 gold, that means you need a total of 300 gold from its two passives to make it worth it.

Now you're getting an addition 3gp10, which works out to an extra 18 gold per minute. Let's say you're the AD and you're a competent last hitter and average around 10 CS a minute-- so that's 20 gold a minute. Therefore, it gives an effective 38 gold per minute. The item therefore pays off in about 8 minutes.

+10% crit is also an effective 20% increase in DPS I think-- since a crit does 200% damage,100% crit would be an effective 200% increase, so 10% is 20%.

I can actually see Avarice being good if you can find a good time to back early enough for it in a 2v1 lane. Similar to Midas in DotA, uneven lanes allow you to more or less free-farm irrelevant of your item selection, meaning the item can make up its value well before it actually matters if you buy it early enough. The problem is finding a good time to back in a 2v1 lane to get it without missing more creeps than it's worth. If you back with like 1650 after getting a dive kill + tower, there's no reason to get the Avarice over a BF Sword.


The Bestfriend Sword is probably going to be a larger increase in DPS-- probably something like 50%+. However, it's also much more expensive. I recommend building an Avarice blade and stacking crit items then praying to the RNG gods.

For example, let's say you have 90 atk. The BF sword is going to be a 50% increase in DPS for 1550 gold.

Or you can buy an Avarice Blade for 800 and a cloak of agility for 730. That works out to be an effective 50% increase in DPS for TWENTY GOLD LESS. YOU SIR HAVE BEEN OUTMATHED.

Plus you get the entire WTF HAXX thing from your opponent when you start hitting crits on him. He just won't see it coming.

+ Show Spoiler +
4/1


Well once you build Avarice, Philo, and Kage, you can build a BF Sword really quick, just run Utility and GP5 quints. Don't worry, it won't affect your dueling capability.
It's your boy Guzma!
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 31 2013 19:12 GMT
#89
On April 01 2013 04:06 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 04:01 ticklishmusic wrote:
On April 01 2013 03:53 TheYango wrote:
On April 01 2013 03:49 ticklishmusic wrote:
So in the interest of starting a (now allowed) GP5 discussion...

Avarice blade is pretty good. Lets say the crit part is worth 500 gold. Since the item costs 800 gold, that means you need a total of 300 gold from its two passives to make it worth it.

Now you're getting an addition 3gp10, which works out to an extra 18 gold per minute. Let's say you're the AD and you're a competent last hitter and average around 10 CS a minute-- so that's 20 gold a minute. Therefore, it gives an effective 38 gold per minute. The item therefore pays off in about 8 minutes.

+10% crit is also an effective 20% increase in DPS I think-- since a crit does 200% damage,100% crit would be an effective 200% increase, so 10% is 20%.

I can actually see Avarice being good if you can find a good time to back early enough for it in a 2v1 lane. Similar to Midas in DotA, uneven lanes allow you to more or less free-farm irrelevant of your item selection, meaning the item can make up its value well before it actually matters if you buy it early enough. The problem is finding a good time to back in a 2v1 lane to get it without missing more creeps than it's worth. If you back with like 1650 after getting a dive kill + tower, there's no reason to get the Avarice over a BF Sword.


The Bestfriend Sword is probably going to be a larger increase in DPS-- probably something like 50%+. However, it's also much more expensive. I recommend building an Avarice blade and stacking crit items then praying to the RNG gods.

For example, let's say you have 90 atk. The BF sword is going to be a 50% increase in DPS for 1550 gold.

Or you can buy an Avarice Blade for 800 and a cloak of agility for 730. That works out to be an effective 50% increase in DPS for TWENTY GOLD LESS. YOU SIR HAVE BEEN OUTMATHED.

Plus you get the entire WTF HAXX thing from your opponent when you start hitting crits on him. He just won't see it coming.

+ Show Spoiler +
4/1


Well once you build Avarice, Philo, and Kage, you can build a BF Sword really quick, just run Utility and GP5 quints. Don't worry, it won't affect your dueling capability.


CLG EU style

play for dat lategame
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35127 Posts
March 31 2013 19:13 GMT
#90
On April 01 2013 04:06 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 04:01 ticklishmusic wrote:
On April 01 2013 03:53 TheYango wrote:
On April 01 2013 03:49 ticklishmusic wrote:
So in the interest of starting a (now allowed) GP5 discussion...

Avarice blade is pretty good. Lets say the crit part is worth 500 gold. Since the item costs 800 gold, that means you need a total of 300 gold from its two passives to make it worth it.

Now you're getting an addition 3gp10, which works out to an extra 18 gold per minute. Let's say you're the AD and you're a competent last hitter and average around 10 CS a minute-- so that's 20 gold a minute. Therefore, it gives an effective 38 gold per minute. The item therefore pays off in about 8 minutes.

+10% crit is also an effective 20% increase in DPS I think-- since a crit does 200% damage,100% crit would be an effective 200% increase, so 10% is 20%.

I can actually see Avarice being good if you can find a good time to back early enough for it in a 2v1 lane. Similar to Midas in DotA, uneven lanes allow you to more or less free-farm irrelevant of your item selection, meaning the item can make up its value well before it actually matters if you buy it early enough. The problem is finding a good time to back in a 2v1 lane to get it without missing more creeps than it's worth. If you back with like 1650 after getting a dive kill + tower, there's no reason to get the Avarice over a BF Sword.


The Bestfriend Sword is probably going to be a larger increase in DPS-- probably something like 50%+. However, it's also much more expensive. I recommend building an Avarice blade and stacking crit items then praying to the RNG gods.

For example, let's say you have 90 atk. The BF sword is going to be a 50% increase in DPS for 1550 gold.

Or you can buy an Avarice Blade for 800 and a cloak of agility for 730. That works out to be an effective 50% increase in DPS for TWENTY GOLD LESS. YOU SIR HAVE BEEN OUTMATHED.

Plus you get the entire WTF HAXX thing from your opponent when you start hitting crits on him. He just won't see it coming.

+ Show Spoiler +
4/1


Well once you build Avarice, Philo, and Kage, you can build a BF Sword really quick, just run Utility and GP5 quints. Don't worry, it won't affect your dueling capability.


I just do it on Ashe and max E. No loss because she had no dueling capability!
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
March 31 2013 19:17 GMT
#91
+ Show Spoiler +
Are queues broken on NA?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35127 Posts
March 31 2013 19:24 GMT
#92
On April 01 2013 04:17 Dusty wrote:
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Are queues broken on NA?

They were last night. I went over 21mins in ranked without a pop before I said fuck it. I'm not good enough to tolerate that wait.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
March 31 2013 19:24 GMT
#93
SOLARI IS NUMERO UNO LUNARI IS NUMERO EIGHT

On April 01 2013 04:13 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 04:06 Requizen wrote:
On April 01 2013 04:01 ticklishmusic wrote:
On April 01 2013 03:53 TheYango wrote:
On April 01 2013 03:49 ticklishmusic wrote:
So in the interest of starting a (now allowed) GP5 discussion...

Avarice blade is pretty good. Lets say the crit part is worth 500 gold. Since the item costs 800 gold, that means you need a total of 300 gold from its two passives to make it worth it.

Now you're getting an addition 3gp10, which works out to an extra 18 gold per minute. Let's say you're the AD and you're a competent last hitter and average around 10 CS a minute-- so that's 20 gold a minute. Therefore, it gives an effective 38 gold per minute. The item therefore pays off in about 8 minutes.

+10% crit is also an effective 20% increase in DPS I think-- since a crit does 200% damage,100% crit would be an effective 200% increase, so 10% is 20%.

I can actually see Avarice being good if you can find a good time to back early enough for it in a 2v1 lane. Similar to Midas in DotA, uneven lanes allow you to more or less free-farm irrelevant of your item selection, meaning the item can make up its value well before it actually matters if you buy it early enough. The problem is finding a good time to back in a 2v1 lane to get it without missing more creeps than it's worth. If you back with like 1650 after getting a dive kill + tower, there's no reason to get the Avarice over a BF Sword.


The Bestfriend Sword is probably going to be a larger increase in DPS-- probably something like 50%+. However, it's also much more expensive. I recommend building an Avarice blade and stacking crit items then praying to the RNG gods.

For example, let's say you have 90 atk. The BF sword is going to be a 50% increase in DPS for 1550 gold.

Or you can buy an Avarice Blade for 800 and a cloak of agility for 730. That works out to be an effective 50% increase in DPS for TWENTY GOLD LESS. YOU SIR HAVE BEEN OUTMATHED.

Plus you get the entire WTF HAXX thing from your opponent when you start hitting crits on him. He just won't see it coming.

+ Show Spoiler +
4/1


Well once you build Avarice, Philo, and Kage, you can build a BF Sword really quick, just run Utility and GP5 quints. Don't worry, it won't affect your dueling capability.


I just do it on Ashe and max E. No loss because she had no dueling capability!


Don't forget to dodge if your mid doesn't pick TF. Go big or go home!
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
March 31 2013 19:29 GMT
#94
Alright, now bring back Lzgamer, Psyonic, Southlight, Spudboy, caller, Numbers, brees and the TL will be on a path 2 glory. #1 LoL site.
Retvrn to Forvms
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
March 31 2013 19:32 GMT
#95
I thought brees still plays under some other name?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 31 2013 19:32 GMT
#96
He's still around.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Zizoz
Profile Joined June 2012
United States232 Posts
March 31 2013 19:32 GMT
#97
On April 01 2013 03:49 ticklishmusic wrote:
So in the interest of starting a (now allowed) GP5 discussion...

Avarice blade is pretty good. Lets say the crit part is worth 500 gold. Since the item costs 800 gold, that means you need a total of 300 gold from its two passives to make it worth it.

Now you're getting an addition 3gp10, which works out to an extra 18 gold per minute. Let's say you're the AD and you're a competent last hitter and average around 10 CS a minute-- so that's 20 gold a minute. Therefore, it gives an effective 38 gold per minute. The item therefore pays off in about 8 minutes.

+10% crit is also an effective 20% increase in DPS I think-- since a crit does 200% damage,100% crit would be an effective 200% increase, so 10% is 20%.

It's a 10% increase if you have no crit (and no additional crit damage, i.e. IE). 100% 200% damage is only a 100% increase over normal 100% damage.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
March 31 2013 19:32 GMT
#98
On April 01 2013 04:29 Chrispy wrote:
Alright, now bring back Lzgamer, Psyonic, Southlight, Spudboy, caller, Numbers, brees and the TL will be on a path 2 glory. #1 LoL site.


Neo pls

BoonMear pls
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 31 2013 19:33 GMT
#99
Na, you're all 9s.

On April 01 2013 03:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
Guys I've decided that LoL is a terrible spectator sport and too annoying to cast since you can always predict the outcome of every game based on the blue/purple side imbalanced so Soniv and I have decided to migrate to DotA 2.

We are now the TeamLiquid Casting Centaur Khans.

Do you stampede?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
March 31 2013 19:33 GMT
#100
I love how the title is even misspelled :x
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