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kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
April 03 2013 19:32 GMT
#881
going from frozen tomb to a combo of puck's dream coil and phase shift is a stretch
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 03 2013 19:34 GMT
#882
She's somebody hiding her true identity and goal and as such another one that feeds the plothole of "Summoners can read the content of a champion's mind while linked with him" that champs like Vayne and Swain were said to be different because they are able to conceal thoughts from their summoner.
'cept with the roster being what it is, and the lore changes implying that most Shadow Isles champs (Mordekaiser, Hecarim, Yorick, Karthus mostly, Eve the least) know what's going on there, and the lore saying absolutely nothing of the League reacting to such knowledge, sharing one's mind with one's summoner is going to be the exception rather than the rule as half the champs seems to be able to conceal whatever they wish from the summoner.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
April 03 2013 19:36 GMT
#883
I wrote an updated Ashe guide in the Strategy subforum:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406138

Solari forever
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
April 03 2013 19:37 GMT
#884
Okay, ezpz Day 1 buy on Lissandra. She looks AWESOME.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
April 03 2013 19:39 GMT
#885
On April 04 2013 04:22 Parnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 04:13 Alaric wrote:
Lissandra becomes untargetable according to the French version ("s'immobiliser" should be translated as "to root oneself" according to translations up to now; the French version is already meh since it says "kiting" as is—it's not noob-friendly at all even though it's commonly used even in French conversation because the translation would take a lot more syllables). Depends if it's Fizz/Yi-like untargetable, or Vlad-like untargetable, for another E activation.
Edit: nvm, she's the most broken "untargetable" to date:
Si un ennemi mord à l'hameçon, Lissandra peut lancer Tombeau polaire sur elle-même, ce qui lui permet de résister aux dégâts le temps d'assurer la mort de son adversaire en lançant ses autres compétences.

If an enemy takes the bait [and tower-dives her], Lissandra can use her Frost Tomb [her ult] on herself, allowing her to avoid damage until she kills her opponent through the rest of her abilities.

She's untargetable but can still cast, and probably attack. Only a self-root.

Her passive makes it sound like she could be played as a poke support, if her base numbers are high enough (Zyra how the fuck are your plants allowed to hurt that much).

Also I never played WoW (pretty much half of what I know about it comes from this thread, increasing with each additional WoW discussion), is the rip-off that blatant?


Not really, alot of melee just have bad nightmareish style flashbacks to fighting Ice mages in Wow so anything close to such is met with hostility. The best way to describe it in League terms is players talking about the nightmares of playing versus old heimer or in broodwar proxy pylons with cannons. Only worse.



I think it's closer to playing against an anivia with flash on 12s(?) CD, zhonya's on like 20s(?) and PBAoE snare on like 8s(?) CD. Oh and zhonya's also cost you CD's if you blew anything on it.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 03 2013 19:40 GMT
#886
On April 04 2013 04:39 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 04:22 Parnage wrote:
On April 04 2013 04:13 Alaric wrote:
Lissandra becomes untargetable according to the French version ("s'immobiliser" should be translated as "to root oneself" according to translations up to now; the French version is already meh since it says "kiting" as is—it's not noob-friendly at all even though it's commonly used even in French conversation because the translation would take a lot more syllables). Depends if it's Fizz/Yi-like untargetable, or Vlad-like untargetable, for another E activation.
Edit: nvm, she's the most broken "untargetable" to date:
Si un ennemi mord à l'hameçon, Lissandra peut lancer Tombeau polaire sur elle-même, ce qui lui permet de résister aux dégâts le temps d'assurer la mort de son adversaire en lançant ses autres compétences.

If an enemy takes the bait [and tower-dives her], Lissandra can use her Frost Tomb [her ult] on herself, allowing her to avoid damage until she kills her opponent through the rest of her abilities.

She's untargetable but can still cast, and probably attack. Only a self-root.

Her passive makes it sound like she could be played as a poke support, if her base numbers are high enough (Zyra how the fuck are your plants allowed to hurt that much).

Also I never played WoW (pretty much half of what I know about it comes from this thread, increasing with each additional WoW discussion), is the rip-off that blatant?


Not really, alot of melee just have bad nightmareish style flashbacks to fighting Ice mages in Wow so anything close to such is met with hostility. The best way to describe it in League terms is players talking about the nightmares of playing versus old heimer or in broodwar proxy pylons with cannons. Only worse.



I think it's closer to playing against an anivia with flash on 12s(?) CD, zhonya's on like 20s(?) and PBAoE snare on like 8s(?) CD. Oh and zhonya's also cost you CD's if you blew anything on it.

Tradeoff is less burst, pushing power, and no imba passive (well, possibly imba in a different way). Similar mages, but she's not just Anivia 2.0
It's your boy Guzma!
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 03 2013 19:40 GMT
#887
On April 04 2013 04:37 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Okay, ezpz Day 1 buy on Lissandra. She looks AWESOME.

Same. Haven't been pumped about a mage in a while, Syndra really didn't do it for me.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Maggost
Profile Joined August 2011
Venezuela296 Posts
April 03 2013 19:45 GMT
#888
Does someone knows info about that leaked screenshot where you can select a role after a ranked game? i am really looking forward to play ranked games with that.
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
April 03 2013 19:51 GMT
#889
On April 04 2013 04:40 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 04:37 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Okay, ezpz Day 1 buy on Lissandra. She looks AWESOME.

Same. Haven't been pumped about a mage in a while, Syndra really didn't do it for me.


I'm super into Syndra now and Lissandra looks just as fun.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 03 2013 19:53 GMT
#890
On April 04 2013 04:51 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 04:40 onlywonderboy wrote:
On April 04 2013 04:37 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Okay, ezpz Day 1 buy on Lissandra. She looks AWESOME.

Same. Haven't been pumped about a mage in a while, Syndra really didn't do it for me.


I'm super into Syndra now and Lissandra looks just as fun.

I've been more interested in Syndra recently but wasn't hyped for her release.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
April 03 2013 19:53 GMT
#891
Hey guys, I've been getting homeguard boots a lot now early on. After my 2 dorans. It feels strong. I save 5 seconds on healing. And +200-0% movespeed for 8 seconds is like 8 seconds of +100% movespeed so 8(less with penalties) seconds saved just running around on every back. In top lane that leads to a lot of cs as your enemy can't just shove the wave into tower right away.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
April 03 2013 19:56 GMT
#892
Yeah, first thing that crossed my mind was frost mage. Frost Nova + Ice Block.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
April 03 2013 20:02 GMT
#893
On April 04 2013 04:53 obesechicken13 wrote:
Hey guys, I've been getting homeguard boots a lot now early on. After my 2 dorans. It feels strong. I save 5 seconds on healing. And +200-0% movespeed for 8 seconds is like 8 seconds of +100% movespeed so 8(less with penalties) seconds saved just running around on every back. In top lane that leads to a lot of cs as your enemy can't just shove the wave into tower right away.

Yeah, homeguard can be considered a type of gp10. I'm not completely convinced that 8-13 seconds less between backs is worth 475g, though. How much more cs do you figure you get?

I could see it being helpful if you get forced out of lane often, although it's not exactly an item that helps you stop getting forced out of lane.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 20:10:44
April 03 2013 20:03 GMT
#894
On April 04 2013 05:02 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 04:53 obesechicken13 wrote:
Hey guys, I've been getting homeguard boots a lot now early on. After my 2 dorans. It feels strong. I save 5 seconds on healing. And +200-0% movespeed for 8 seconds is like 8 seconds of +100% movespeed so 8(less with penalties) seconds saved just running around on every back. In top lane that leads to a lot of cs as your enemy can't just shove the wave into tower right away.

Yeah, homeguard can be considered a type of gp10. I'm not completely convinced that 8-13 seconds less between backs is worth 475g, though. How much more cs do you figure you get?

I could see it being helpful if you get forced out of lane often, although it's not exactly an item that helps you stop getting forced out of lane.

Considering the bullshit that is Zed and Pantheon that can't do crap to trade vs me, but then just spam Q's at me from a safe distance, I back quite a bit after pushing the wave. Yorick and Teemo and Kayle too. In fact homeguard would help against every lane bully and noob friendly farm forever from 600 range champion in the game unless they can't harass you from a safe distance.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 20:12:19
April 03 2013 20:12 GMT
#895
Lissandra's hat looks like she needs a runway so she can take off. Just sayin'.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
April 03 2013 20:13 GMT
#896
On April 04 2013 03:08 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 03:04 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On April 04 2013 02:58 sylverfyre wrote:
Ugh, this is pissing me off. I'm starting to think that LCS teams should have fixed lineup, and only be allowed to drop a starter for a sub. No trading or picking up new members until after the midseason playoffs, IMO.

I really do NOT like an LCS team taking members from a challenger team who had great hopes of becoming an LCS team for the second part of the season.


Unfortunately, this is the kind of thing contracts were created to prevent. I can't speak for gtrsrs's legal arrangements with Velocity's members, but normally (i.e. in other sports) this kind of rapid, unprecedented shifting would be met with some serious suing.

I'm not saying it's a good thing, but this is why there need to be more things like players' unions, etc. ideally. Because there are rules being broken.


Well Unions have pretty much broke the backs of players in most other sports. Lebron James should be making 2-4x his current Miami Heat salary, not including endorsements.


The insinuation that unions have actually HURT players' salaries is hilarious. The owners are the ones that put in salary caps, and try to lower minimum veteran salaries, and make more money; the unions leverage the players as commodities(see: recent lockouts) to get them paid better(earn higher %'s of league total revenue), raise salary caps(which in turn raises average salary), raise minimum veteran salaries, etc. You could maybe argue that the absolute tip top talent, like literally a handful of dudes, are losing out, but even that has counterpoints such as them not being anything if the sport doesn't exist because unions aren't there helping out every other player in the sport to make great money(because the tip top guys are making all of it).
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
April 03 2013 20:18 GMT
#897
homeguards on zed always worth cause you get to see him running like naruto characters for 8seconds
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 03 2013 20:21 GMT
#898
On April 04 2013 05:18 AsnSensation wrote:
homeguards on zed always worth cause you get to see him running like naruto characters for 8seconds

^QFT best run animation LoL.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
April 03 2013 20:28 GMT
#899
The Gigabyte StarsWar playoffs NA cast starts in a couple hours! TPA vs PE!

Check out the Reddit thread!

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1bly7s/2_hours_from_this_post_tpa_plays_pe_in_the/
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[SuNdae]
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Finland323 Posts
April 03 2013 20:29 GMT
#900
On April 04 2013 05:21 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 05:18 AsnSensation wrote:
homeguards on zed always worth cause you get to see him running like naruto characters for 8seconds

^QFT best run animation LoL.


Zed also runs like that when he's got bloodboil.
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