[Patch 3.05.1: Karma Remake] General Discussion - Page 14

On March 29 2013 05:05 Sufficiency wrote:


Thanks. Time to play some boob physics MMO for me, I guess.

On March 29 2013 05:20 NeoIllusions wrote:

Link?

On March 29 2013 03:03 Slayer91 wrote:
Instead of working out the differential equations the best way to do this is find the points where gold cost of hp equals gold cost of armour+mr. I did the calculations pre giants belt nerf and because hp is so cheap because mr and armour are weighted due to possibility of shields it was like for example 3.6k hp = 150 armour and mr and like early on when you have like say 50ish armour and mr it might be like 2.2k or something which is why early warmogs rushes were used so much. (hp scales WAY more than mr and armour per level)

I think at 0 magic resist and armour it was like 500 or 1k at the point where health is always better than resists and after that you just keep upgrading 100 armour+mr = 1k hp or whatever it was and keep getting 1/2 of each to maximize ehp.

its more practical than the differential equations because you don't have to do any calculations if you just memorize a few benchmark points from napkin math.

you also want to weight the armour/mr balance toward the magic/physical damage intake in the same ratio I think because each point of resists adds the same amount of EHP. ORRR just stack the shit out of armour and try to instantly burst their AP carry in every fight gggg

edit: taking 20 and the cost of armour mr since there are no really cost effective full resist items and mostly negatron and chains vest items kinda suck now anyway and 2.63~ as the value of hp its 1500 hp = 100 mr+armour
so e.g
2k hp and 50 armour and mr 3k hp
1500 hp is 5.25 ehp (each point of armour+mr is 1% hp-->ehp against magic+physical damage)
2k hp 150 armour mr =5k ehp
hp slightly better here thats where I got my 2.2k number from I guess

but if you average it to 2.75k hp and 100 armour mr you get slightly more ehp. (5.5k)

On March 29 2013 05:02 Sufficiency wrote:
Is there LCS today? No?

On March 29 2013 05:04 onlywonderboy wrote:

Nope, they are playing Saturday and Sunday, another weird 12 game week.

On March 29 2013 05:43 Parnage wrote:
Read: Smash spilled coffee on the servers to try and holdback a karma rework due to his love of the original.

Man I am literally out of things to do, no ones on in my merc corp, no league, don't feel like mmo's and I even finished my latest read.

On March 29 2013 04:52 thenexusp wrote:

Mixed damage is actually pretty unintuitive, math-wise. Here's an example that is completely impractical in a real game but is illustrative:

Say you notice in fights you take 3000 physical damage (pre-mitigation) and 1000 magic damage. In this alternate universe, instead of buying items, you just put points into stats. And to make it simpler, you can only put points into armor or MR, and you have 100 to spend.

Say you have 0 armor and 0 MR to start. What is the best way to distribute your 100 points into armor and MR to minimize the damage you take?

If you answered 75/25, that's wrong! 75 armor and 25 MR makes you take 3000*100/175+1000*100/125 = 2514 damage. Whereas you could put all 100 points into armor, and take 3000*100/200+1000*100/100 = 2500 damage.
(The optimal split is 90 armor / 10 MR, where you take 3000*100/190+1000*100/110=2488 damage)