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On March 29 2013 04:13 Dusty wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 04:09 NeoIllusions wrote:On March 29 2013 04:08 Dusty wrote:On March 29 2013 04:02 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 29 2013 03:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:Thank you for giving me a good opportunity to toot my own horn. =D + Show Spoiler +But seriously, we're great. Are you 'pissfacebukkakekilla?' LOL but seriously, do we really want the average redditor to come to this forum? =o Sure, why not? Have you read some of the things people on reddit say? >_<
I think that part of it comes from the fact that TL, on average is probably a full league ahead of reddit by skill level.
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So if people AFK in his ult for 3.5 seconds you do equal damage. Okay...
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On March 29 2013 04:13 Dusty wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 04:09 NeoIllusions wrote:On March 29 2013 04:08 Dusty wrote:On March 29 2013 04:02 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 29 2013 03:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:Thank you for giving me a good opportunity to toot my own horn. =D + Show Spoiler +But seriously, we're great. Are you 'pissfacebukkakekilla?' LOL but seriously, do we really want the average redditor to come to this forum? =o Sure, why not? Have you read some of the things people on reddit say? >_<
People who say really dumb stuff on TL end up getting banned or ridiculed for their terrible ideas until they leave. So I don't think it's much of an issue.
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On March 29 2013 04:13 Dusty wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 04:09 NeoIllusions wrote:On March 29 2013 04:08 Dusty wrote:On March 29 2013 04:02 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 29 2013 03:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:Thank you for giving me a good opportunity to toot my own horn. =D + Show Spoiler +But seriously, we're great. Are you 'pissfacebukkakekilla?' LOL but seriously, do we really want the average redditor to come to this forum? =o Sure, why not? Have you read some of the things people on reddit say? >_< Have you read some of the things people on TL say? >_<
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On March 29 2013 04:13 Dusty wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 04:09 NeoIllusions wrote:On March 29 2013 04:08 Dusty wrote:On March 29 2013 04:02 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 29 2013 03:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:Thank you for giving me a good opportunity to toot my own horn. =D + Show Spoiler +But seriously, we're great. Are you 'pissfacebukkakekilla?' LOL but seriously, do we really want the average redditor to come to this forum? =o Sure, why not? Have you read some of the things people on reddit say? >_< have u read balance discussion in sc2 subforum? tl isnt much different from battlenet forums atm
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On March 29 2013 04:02 WaveofShadow wrote:Are you 'pissfacebukkakekilla?'
NOW I KNOW WHO TOOK MY NAME.
+ Show Spoiler +I'm actually pissfacebukkakekilla2
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3 hours until WE vs TPA! Going to be a sick match, so check out our reddit thread and the cast if you missed last night!
GOGO!
(Edit: Reposted because I had a bad link)
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On March 29 2013 04:13 Dusty wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 04:09 NeoIllusions wrote:On March 29 2013 04:08 Dusty wrote:On March 29 2013 04:02 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 29 2013 03:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:Thank you for giving me a good opportunity to toot my own horn. =D + Show Spoiler +But seriously, we're great. Are you 'pissfacebukkakekilla?' LOL but seriously, do we really want the average redditor to come to this forum? =o Sure, why not? Have you read some of the things people on reddit say? >_< Why stereotype an entire group of users like that? If that's the case, TL.net is full of snobs and elitists.
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Posting so I can check it when I get home. Thanks for doing this btw, was hoping for an English rebroadcast since I couldn't get up at 4am to watch it lol. Is it as epic as I think it'll be?
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On March 29 2013 04:14 Crownlol wrote:So if people AFK in his ult for 3.5 seconds you do equal damage. Okay...
Meh, it's a pretty significant nerf to his duel/skirmish potential (in the sense that they can flash out of the damage) but rumble is so unbelievably strong that he can afford to delegate his ult to be used for area control rather than burst & sniping kills.
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On March 29 2013 04:18 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 04:13 Dusty wrote:On March 29 2013 04:09 NeoIllusions wrote:On March 29 2013 04:08 Dusty wrote:On March 29 2013 04:02 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 29 2013 03:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:Thank you for giving me a good opportunity to toot my own horn. =D + Show Spoiler +But seriously, we're great. Are you 'pissfacebukkakekilla?' LOL but seriously, do we really want the average redditor to come to this forum? =o Sure, why not? Have you read some of the things people on reddit say? >_< Why stereotype an entire group of users like that? If that's the case, TL.net is full of snobs and elitists.
But isn't TL supposed to be somewhat elitist? And when I say the average redditor, I really do mean the average redditor. Don't get me wrong, there are some good posters on reddit but they are far from the norm. Which is bound to happen, I mean they do have 250,000 subscribers.
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On March 29 2013 04:14 Crownlol wrote:So if people AFK in his ult for 3.5 seconds you do equal damage. Okay... Or if you have a Jarvan, engage in the jungle, catch them between tower and wall, Amumu ult, Sej ult, Malph ult, in the Baron or Dragon pit, in a large minion wave where they get creep blocked...
It's far from useless.
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Regarding rumble. It's an obvious nerf even if they say "wanted to fit more in line with the character's blah", but saying this just means people won't get as angry that Riot is nerfing him.
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Ye except rumble was completely OP. Actually I wish they nerfed him even more.
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I'm from Reddit originally >_>
I never played SC so the LoL write-ups are what brought me here...
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On March 29 2013 04:35 onlywonderboy wrote: I'm from Reddit originally >_>
I never played SC so the LoL write-ups are what brought me here... Yeah, but when it comes to Reddit, you're a wonder boy. The only one, maybe.
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On March 29 2013 04:25 Dusty wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 04:18 NeoIllusions wrote:On March 29 2013 04:13 Dusty wrote:On March 29 2013 04:09 NeoIllusions wrote:On March 29 2013 04:08 Dusty wrote:On March 29 2013 04:02 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 29 2013 03:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:Thank you for giving me a good opportunity to toot my own horn. =D + Show Spoiler +But seriously, we're great. Are you 'pissfacebukkakekilla?' LOL but seriously, do we really want the average redditor to come to this forum? =o Sure, why not? Have you read some of the things people on reddit say? >_< Why stereotype an entire group of users like that? If that's the case, TL.net is full of snobs and elitists. But isn't TL supposed to be somewhat elitist? And when I say the average redditor, I really do mean the average redditor. Don't get me wrong, there are some good posters on reddit but they are far from the norm. Which is bound to happen, I mean they do have 250,000 subscribers.
Well, I agree that we are somewhat elitist, in the sense that we hold our subforum to a higher standard of posting quality and behavior. But one of main goals of TL LoL staff this season is to extend our outreach in the LoL community and reddit is one of the better outlets for our work.
In general, I think our subforum can move away from being so insular and worry less about the quality of posts if we have an influx of new users. We have a solid foundation and moderation of bad users isn't a problem. If we had to start from scratch like Dota2 or SC2 General, then it'd be a bigger issue.
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On March 29 2013 04:37 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 04:35 onlywonderboy wrote: I'm from Reddit originally >_>
I never played SC so the LoL write-ups are what brought me here... Yeah, but when it comes to Reddit, you're a wonder boy. The only one, maybe. + Show Spoiler + If you keep these puns going, there's gunna be a reckoning....
I wouldn't mind an influx of pro players joining tl, that'd be awesome. Already pretty awesome that we got spellsy,loci, and locodoco posting here occasionally. And even having ex-sc2 pros posting here is pretty awesome.
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On March 29 2013 03:03 Slayer91 wrote: Instead of working out the differential equations the best way to do this is find the points where gold cost of hp equals gold cost of armour+mr. I did the calculations pre giants belt nerf and because hp is so cheap because mr and armour are weighted due to possibility of shields it was like for example 3.6k hp = 150 armour and mr and like early on when you have like say 50ish armour and mr it might be like 2.2k or something which is why early warmogs rushes were used so much. (hp scales WAY more than mr and armour per level)
I think at 0 magic resist and armour it was like 500 or 1k at the point where health is always better than resists and after that you just keep upgrading 100 armour+mr = 1k hp or whatever it was and keep getting 1/2 of each to maximize ehp.
its more practical than the differential equations because you don't have to do any calculations if you just memorize a few benchmark points from napkin math.
you also want to weight the armour/mr balance toward the magic/physical damage intake in the same ratio I think because each point of resists adds the same amount of EHP. ORRR just stack the shit out of armour and try to instantly burst their AP carry in every fight gggg
edit: taking 20 and the cost of armour mr since there are no really cost effective full resist items and mostly negatron and chains vest items kinda suck now anyway and 2.63~ as the value of hp its 1500 hp = 100 mr+armour so e.g 2k hp and 50 armour and mr 3k hp 1500 hp is 5.25 ehp (each point of armour+mr is 1% hp-->ehp against magic+physical damage) 2k hp 150 armour mr =5k ehp hp slightly better here thats where I got my 2.2k number from I guess
but if you average it to 2.75k hp and 100 armour mr you get slightly more ehp. (5.5k) Mixed damage is actually pretty unintuitive, math-wise. Here's an example that is completely impractical in a real game but is illustrative:
Say you notice in fights you take 3000 physical damage (pre-mitigation) and 1000 magic damage. In this alternate universe, instead of buying items, you just put points into stats. And to make it simpler, you can only put points into armor or MR, and you have 100 to spend.
Say you have 0 armor and 0 MR to start. What is the best way to distribute your 100 points into armor and MR to minimize the damage you take?
If you answered 75/25, that's wrong! 75 armor and 25 MR makes you take 3000*100/175+1000*100/125 = 2514 damage. Whereas you could put all 100 points into armor, and take 3000*100/200+1000*100/100 = 2500 damage. (The optimal split is 90 armor / 10 MR, where you take 3000*100/190+1000*100/110=2488 damage)
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See nony post here through the TL pro tracker thing is what piqued my interest
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