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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
March 28 2013 19:14 GMT
#221
On March 29 2013 04:13 Dusty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 04:09 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 29 2013 04:08 Dusty wrote:
On March 29 2013 04:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
On March 29 2013 03:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On March 29 2013 03:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
Up to you guys if you want to bother but this post just popped up on Reddit and apparently despite all the work Neo + crew have put in we still go unrecognized.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1b6lxe/some_useful_lol_websites_that_everyone_should/c945o3d


Thank you for giving me a good opportunity to toot my own horn. =D

+ Show Spoiler +
But seriously, we're great.

Are you 'pissfacebukkakekilla?'


LOL

but seriously, do we really want the average redditor to come to this forum? =o

Sure, why not?


Have you read some of the things people on reddit say? >_<


I think that part of it comes from the fact that TL, on average is probably a full league ahead of reddit by skill level.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
March 28 2013 19:14 GMT
#222
On March 29 2013 01:32 Dusty wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1b6b5x/rumble_ult_changes_indepth_dmg_analysis_and/

i think people can stop crying about the rumble ult nerf now



So if people AFK in his ult for 3.5 seconds you do equal damage. Okay...
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
March 28 2013 19:15 GMT
#223
On March 29 2013 04:13 Dusty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 04:09 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 29 2013 04:08 Dusty wrote:
On March 29 2013 04:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
On March 29 2013 03:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On March 29 2013 03:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
Up to you guys if you want to bother but this post just popped up on Reddit and apparently despite all the work Neo + crew have put in we still go unrecognized.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1b6lxe/some_useful_lol_websites_that_everyone_should/c945o3d


Thank you for giving me a good opportunity to toot my own horn. =D

+ Show Spoiler +
But seriously, we're great.

Are you 'pissfacebukkakekilla?'


LOL

but seriously, do we really want the average redditor to come to this forum? =o

Sure, why not?


Have you read some of the things people on reddit say? >_<


People who say really dumb stuff on TL end up getting banned or ridiculed for their terrible ideas until they leave. So I don't think it's much of an issue.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
March 28 2013 19:15 GMT
#224
On March 29 2013 04:13 Dusty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 04:09 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 29 2013 04:08 Dusty wrote:
On March 29 2013 04:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
On March 29 2013 03:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On March 29 2013 03:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
Up to you guys if you want to bother but this post just popped up on Reddit and apparently despite all the work Neo + crew have put in we still go unrecognized.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1b6lxe/some_useful_lol_websites_that_everyone_should/c945o3d


Thank you for giving me a good opportunity to toot my own horn. =D

+ Show Spoiler +
But seriously, we're great.

Are you 'pissfacebukkakekilla?'


LOL

but seriously, do we really want the average redditor to come to this forum? =o

Sure, why not?


Have you read some of the things people on reddit say? >_<

Have you read some of the things people on TL say? >_<
It's your boy Guzma!
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
March 28 2013 19:15 GMT
#225
On March 29 2013 04:13 Dusty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 04:09 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 29 2013 04:08 Dusty wrote:
On March 29 2013 04:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
On March 29 2013 03:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On March 29 2013 03:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
Up to you guys if you want to bother but this post just popped up on Reddit and apparently despite all the work Neo + crew have put in we still go unrecognized.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1b6lxe/some_useful_lol_websites_that_everyone_should/c945o3d


Thank you for giving me a good opportunity to toot my own horn. =D

+ Show Spoiler +
But seriously, we're great.

Are you 'pissfacebukkakekilla?'


LOL

but seriously, do we really want the average redditor to come to this forum? =o

Sure, why not?


Have you read some of the things people on reddit say? >_<

have u read balance discussion in sc2 subforum? tl isnt much different from battlenet forums atm
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
March 28 2013 19:15 GMT
#226
On March 29 2013 04:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 03:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On March 29 2013 03:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
Up to you guys if you want to bother but this post just popped up on Reddit and apparently despite all the work Neo + crew have put in we still go unrecognized.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1b6lxe/some_useful_lol_websites_that_everyone_should/c945o3d


Thank you for giving me a good opportunity to toot my own horn. =D

+ Show Spoiler +
But seriously, we're great.

Are you 'pissfacebukkakekilla?'


NOW I KNOW WHO TOOK MY NAME.

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I'm actually pissfacebukkakekilla2
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-28 19:31:55
March 28 2013 19:16 GMT
#227
[image loading][image loading]


3 hours until WE vs TPA! Going to be a sick match, so check out our reddit thread and the cast if you missed last night!

GOGO!

(Edit: Reposted because I had a bad link)
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 28 2013 19:18 GMT
#228
On March 29 2013 04:13 Dusty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 04:09 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 29 2013 04:08 Dusty wrote:
On March 29 2013 04:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
On March 29 2013 03:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On March 29 2013 03:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
Up to you guys if you want to bother but this post just popped up on Reddit and apparently despite all the work Neo + crew have put in we still go unrecognized.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1b6lxe/some_useful_lol_websites_that_everyone_should/c945o3d


Thank you for giving me a good opportunity to toot my own horn. =D

+ Show Spoiler +
But seriously, we're great.

Are you 'pissfacebukkakekilla?'


LOL

but seriously, do we really want the average redditor to come to this forum? =o

Sure, why not?


Have you read some of the things people on reddit say? >_<

Why stereotype an entire group of users like that? If that's the case, TL.net is full of snobs and elitists.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
March 28 2013 19:19 GMT
#229
On March 29 2013 04:16 Diamond wrote:
3 hours until WE vs TPA! Going to be a sick match, so check out our reddit thread and the cast if you missed last night!

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1b6z7b/when_this_post_is_3_hourd_old_we_vs_tpa_yep_the/

GOGO!

(Edit: Reposted because I had a bad link)


Posting so I can check it when I get home. Thanks for doing this btw, was hoping for an English rebroadcast since I couldn't get up at 4am to watch it lol. Is it as epic as I think it'll be?
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-28 19:24:41
March 28 2013 19:19 GMT
#230
On March 29 2013 04:14 Crownlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 01:32 Dusty wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1b6b5x/rumble_ult_changes_indepth_dmg_analysis_and/

i think people can stop crying about the rumble ult nerf now



So if people AFK in his ult for 3.5 seconds you do equal damage. Okay...


Meh, it's a pretty significant nerf to his duel/skirmish potential (in the sense that they can flash out of the damage) but rumble is so unbelievably strong that he can afford to delegate his ult to be used for area control rather than burst & sniping kills.
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
March 28 2013 19:25 GMT
#231
On March 29 2013 04:18 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 04:13 Dusty wrote:
On March 29 2013 04:09 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 29 2013 04:08 Dusty wrote:
On March 29 2013 04:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
On March 29 2013 03:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On March 29 2013 03:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
Up to you guys if you want to bother but this post just popped up on Reddit and apparently despite all the work Neo + crew have put in we still go unrecognized.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1b6lxe/some_useful_lol_websites_that_everyone_should/c945o3d


Thank you for giving me a good opportunity to toot my own horn. =D

+ Show Spoiler +
But seriously, we're great.

Are you 'pissfacebukkakekilla?'


LOL

but seriously, do we really want the average redditor to come to this forum? =o

Sure, why not?


Have you read some of the things people on reddit say? >_<

Why stereotype an entire group of users like that? If that's the case, TL.net is full of snobs and elitists.


But isn't TL supposed to be somewhat elitist? And when I say the average redditor, I really do mean the average redditor. Don't get me wrong, there are some good posters on reddit but they are far from the norm. Which is bound to happen, I mean they do have 250,000 subscribers.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
March 28 2013 19:25 GMT
#232
On March 29 2013 04:14 Crownlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 01:32 Dusty wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1b6b5x/rumble_ult_changes_indepth_dmg_analysis_and/

i think people can stop crying about the rumble ult nerf now



So if people AFK in his ult for 3.5 seconds you do equal damage. Okay...

Or if you have a Jarvan, engage in the jungle, catch them between tower and wall, Amumu ult, Sej ult, Malph ult, in the Baron or Dragon pit, in a large minion wave where they get creep blocked...

It's far from useless.
It's your boy Guzma!
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-28 19:26:20
March 28 2013 19:26 GMT
#233
Regarding rumble.
It's an obvious nerf even if they say "wanted to fit more in line with the character's blah", but saying this just means people won't get as angry that Riot is nerfing him.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
March 28 2013 19:30 GMT
#234
Ye except rumble was completely OP. Actually I wish they nerfed him even more.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-28 19:36:18
March 28 2013 19:35 GMT
#235
I'm from Reddit originally >_>

I never played SC so the LoL write-ups are what brought me here...
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
March 28 2013 19:37 GMT
#236
On March 29 2013 04:35 onlywonderboy wrote:
I'm from Reddit originally >_>

I never played SC so the LoL write-ups are what brought me here...

Yeah, but when it comes to Reddit, you're a wonder boy. The only one, maybe.




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I'll show myself out.
It's your boy Guzma!
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 28 2013 19:40 GMT
#237
On March 29 2013 04:25 Dusty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 04:18 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 29 2013 04:13 Dusty wrote:
On March 29 2013 04:09 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 29 2013 04:08 Dusty wrote:
On March 29 2013 04:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
On March 29 2013 03:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On March 29 2013 03:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
Up to you guys if you want to bother but this post just popped up on Reddit and apparently despite all the work Neo + crew have put in we still go unrecognized.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1b6lxe/some_useful_lol_websites_that_everyone_should/c945o3d


Thank you for giving me a good opportunity to toot my own horn. =D

+ Show Spoiler +
But seriously, we're great.

Are you 'pissfacebukkakekilla?'


LOL

but seriously, do we really want the average redditor to come to this forum? =o

Sure, why not?


Have you read some of the things people on reddit say? >_<

Why stereotype an entire group of users like that? If that's the case, TL.net is full of snobs and elitists.


But isn't TL supposed to be somewhat elitist? And when I say the average redditor, I really do mean the average redditor. Don't get me wrong, there are some good posters on reddit but they are far from the norm. Which is bound to happen, I mean they do have 250,000 subscribers.


Well, I agree that we are somewhat elitist, in the sense that we hold our subforum to a higher standard of posting quality and behavior. But one of main goals of TL LoL staff this season is to extend our outreach in the LoL community and reddit is one of the better outlets for our work.

In general, I think our subforum can move away from being so insular and worry less about the quality of posts if we have an influx of new users. We have a solid foundation and moderation of bad users isn't a problem. If we had to start from scratch like Dota2 or SC2 General, then it'd be a bigger issue.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-28 19:47:18
March 28 2013 19:45 GMT
#238
On March 29 2013 04:37 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 04:35 onlywonderboy wrote:
I'm from Reddit originally >_>

I never played SC so the LoL write-ups are what brought me here...

Yeah, but when it comes to Reddit, you're a wonder boy. The only one, maybe.




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I'll show myself out.

If you keep these puns going, there's gunna be a reckoning....

I wouldn't mind an influx of pro players joining tl, that'd be awesome. Already pretty awesome that we got spellsy,loci, and locodoco posting here occasionally. And even having ex-sc2 pros posting here is pretty awesome.
liftlift > tsm
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
March 28 2013 19:52 GMT
#239
On March 29 2013 03:03 Slayer91 wrote:
Instead of working out the differential equations the best way to do this is find the points where gold cost of hp equals gold cost of armour+mr. I did the calculations pre giants belt nerf and because hp is so cheap because mr and armour are weighted due to possibility of shields it was like for example 3.6k hp = 150 armour and mr and like early on when you have like say 50ish armour and mr it might be like 2.2k or something which is why early warmogs rushes were used so much. (hp scales WAY more than mr and armour per level)

I think at 0 magic resist and armour it was like 500 or 1k at the point where health is always better than resists and after that you just keep upgrading 100 armour+mr = 1k hp or whatever it was and keep getting 1/2 of each to maximize ehp.

its more practical than the differential equations because you don't have to do any calculations if you just memorize a few benchmark points from napkin math.

you also want to weight the armour/mr balance toward the magic/physical damage intake in the same ratio I think because each point of resists adds the same amount of EHP. ORRR just stack the shit out of armour and try to instantly burst their AP carry in every fight gggg

edit: taking 20 and the cost of armour mr since there are no really cost effective full resist items and mostly negatron and chains vest items kinda suck now anyway and 2.63~ as the value of hp its 1500 hp = 100 mr+armour
so e.g
2k hp and 50 armour and mr 3k hp
1500 hp is 5.25 ehp (each point of armour+mr is 1% hp-->ehp against magic+physical damage)
2k hp 150 armour mr =5k ehp
hp slightly better here thats where I got my 2.2k number from I guess

but if you average it to 2.75k hp and 100 armour mr you get slightly more ehp. (5.5k)

Mixed damage is actually pretty unintuitive, math-wise. Here's an example that is completely impractical in a real game but is illustrative:

Say you notice in fights you take 3000 physical damage (pre-mitigation) and 1000 magic damage. In this alternate universe, instead of buying items, you just put points into stats. And to make it simpler, you can only put points into armor or MR, and you have 100 to spend.

Say you have 0 armor and 0 MR to start. What is the best way to distribute your 100 points into armor and MR to minimize the damage you take?

If you answered 75/25, that's wrong! 75 armor and 25 MR makes you take 3000*100/175+1000*100/125 = 2514 damage. Whereas you could put all 100 points into armor, and take 3000*100/200+1000*100/100 = 2500 damage.
(The optimal split is 90 armor / 10 MR, where you take 3000*100/190+1000*100/110=2488 damage)
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
March 28 2013 19:53 GMT
#240
See nony post here through the TL pro tracker thing is what piqued my interest
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
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