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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-28 23:15:10
March 28 2013 23:02 GMT
#301
So Zac's spells can actually almost be considered free I think-- its actually very easy to grab back the blobs though I guess a good player could zone you out a bit. All in all though, I feel the randomness makes it harder for him to do that, and you can always just drop more spells to harass, drop more blobs and grab a few back and win the trade. Throw on a SV, and its pretty ridiculous.

His ult is a little awkward feeling, but his poke and stuff are pretty insane. I think tank masteries with mpen work really well on him. I think someone said this earlier, but Ancient Golem, IBG, SV, Tabi/Mobo is a good core on him, maybe building Abyssal Sceptre and Warmogs to finish it off. I feel that Ohmwrecker would be good on him as well, but I'm having trouble figuring out where it would go.
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thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
March 28 2013 23:05 GMT
#302
On March 29 2013 07:48 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 06:13 WhiteDog wrote:
On March 29 2013 05:39 Sufficiency wrote:
On March 29 2013 05:09 Parnage wrote:
On March 29 2013 05:05 Sufficiency wrote:
On March 29 2013 05:04 onlywonderboy wrote:
On March 29 2013 05:02 Sufficiency wrote:
Is there LCS today? No?

Nope, they are playing Saturday and Sunday, another weird 12 game week.


Thanks. Time to play some boob physics MMO for me, I guess.


Gw2? Or.. that Scarlet blade one with the not safe for wussies thing?


Thoses boobs are ridiculous. No wonder some mad crazy feminist think video games are misogynist. I've seen my gf dancing naked and dem boobs don't do such erotic thing.


Oh my.

yeah. getting a gf meant that a bunch of porn suddenly became "there's no way that position is remotely comfortable"
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
March 28 2013 23:07 GMT
#303
On March 29 2013 07:35 emperorchampion wrote:
I made a spread sheet that should work to calculate the minimum required health, armour, and mr for the least gold given a few basic parameters. It could easily be expanded to include penetrations and such with a little effort.

Download and you'll need the Excel solver (may have to download; also not sure if it saves solver the settings, so I took a screenshot as well).

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-0kND-xCpavazBVNktkZDBpSEU/edit?usp=sharing


Edit: ofc all credit to the nexusp :p


Nice work, I think the best mathcrafting gets done when servers are down, lol.
I got nothin'...
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
March 28 2013 23:09 GMT
#304
has anyone been watching jiji's stream recently? he's still damn entertaining to watch with some of his plays he makes. It seems like he's getting better again. I just wonder if his team can bring it out of him in tournament matches.
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
March 28 2013 23:10 GMT
#305
On March 29 2013 07:31 Dusty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 07:29 Parnage wrote:
Tried to start up league, hit play fatal error with a sad amumu pop up every time. I'd say servers are still borked.


you have to repair your game if you get that


crap this is happening to me too, I definitely have to repair it huh?
I got nothin'...
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
March 28 2013 23:14 GMT
#306
On March 29 2013 08:10 YouGotNothin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 07:31 Dusty wrote:
On March 29 2013 07:29 Parnage wrote:
Tried to start up league, hit play fatal error with a sad amumu pop up every time. I'd say servers are still borked.


you have to repair your game if you get that


crap this is happening to me too, I definitely have to repair it huh?


Just finished repairing, yeah it works now.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 28 2013 23:18 GMT
#307
On March 29 2013 08:09 ketchup wrote:
has anyone been watching jiji's stream recently? he's still damn entertaining to watch with some of his plays he makes. It seems like he's getting better again. I just wonder if his team can bring it out of him in tournament matches.

oh jijimon, you're still my favorite despite never giving me a notion that you take LoL srsly. :<
He's fun to watch, sure, but I can never tell when he tryhards.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-28 23:20:36
March 28 2013 23:19 GMT
#308
On March 29 2013 06:25 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 06:13 WhiteDog wrote:
On March 29 2013 05:39 Sufficiency wrote:
On March 29 2013 05:09 Parnage wrote:
On March 29 2013 05:05 Sufficiency wrote:
On March 29 2013 05:04 onlywonderboy wrote:
On March 29 2013 05:02 Sufficiency wrote:
Is there LCS today? No?

Nope, they are playing Saturday and Sunday, another weird 12 game week.


Thanks. Time to play some boob physics MMO for me, I guess.


Gw2? Or.. that Scarlet blade one with the not safe for wussies thing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D70rvdk0WPU

Thoses boobs are ridiculous. No wonder some mad crazy feminist think video games are misogynist. I've seen my gf dancing naked and dem boobs don't do such erotic thing.


I think we might need some videos for confirmation. Sounds like you trying to hide something here. All those open feels have done things.

I guess I could take a look at coding a model for it since I need to learn matlab/scilab for my Reactor Design project anyway but it's holiday until Monday so hard to put in effort :<

I tried trust me.


Nerfing turret is retarded, I'm sure they followed Saintvicious' whine a little too much, that's the boring part, since Riot is Na, Na players have a direct link to the company and can influence the evolution of the game more than other region.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-28 23:32:12
March 28 2013 23:27 GMT
#309
On March 29 2013 08:18 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 08:09 ketchup wrote:
has anyone been watching jiji's stream recently? he's still damn entertaining to watch with some of his plays he makes. It seems like he's getting better again. I just wonder if his team can bring it out of him in tournament matches.

oh jijimon, you're still my favorite despite never giving me a notion that you take LoL srsly. :<
He's fun to watch, sure, but I can never tell when he tryhards.


Truth. There's no way to tell. I have to wonder if he uses music while in tourneys, or if he is/was not allowed to. Which makes me question if voice chat/ atmosphere effects his game play during tournaments. Can't be jiji without jiji whistling!

On March 29 2013 08:19 WhiteDog wrote:
I tried trust me.


Nerfing turret is retarded, I'm sure they followed Saintvicious' whine a little too much, that's the boring part, since Riot is Na, Na players have a direct link to the company and can influence the evolution of the game more than other region.



That's such a stupid stupid assumption to make of any developer that's international. I have no idea what makes you think NA region is the only one taken into account with the decisions being made. Seriously, it's pretty borderline delusional to say such a thing.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
March 28 2013 23:37 GMT
#310
I know for a fact after talking to people at PAX that Riot has a team of guys who just talk to the Koreans and then feeds the information back to the rest of the Riot team. I'm assuming they have teams for other regions too.

jiji's always been a solo queue beast. He has a ton of skill and is really good at team fighting but being a good team fighter wasn't as important in the S2 meta of roaming and snowballing and is even less important in the current way the game is played of pushing down towers early. jiji's my favorite player but I don't see him making a come back as a top AP mid for a long time.

He's definitely good enough to play in NA LCS though.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-28 23:59:43
March 28 2013 23:55 GMT
#311
On March 29 2013 08:27 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 08:18 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 29 2013 08:09 ketchup wrote:
has anyone been watching jiji's stream recently? he's still damn entertaining to watch with some of his plays he makes. It seems like he's getting better again. I just wonder if his team can bring it out of him in tournament matches.

oh jijimon, you're still my favorite despite never giving me a notion that you take LoL srsly. :<
He's fun to watch, sure, but I can never tell when he tryhards.


Truth. There's no way to tell. I have to wonder if he uses music while in tourneys, or if he is/was not allowed to. Which makes me question if voice chat/ atmosphere effects his game play during tournaments. Can't be jiji without jiji whistling!

Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 08:19 WhiteDog wrote:
I tried trust me.


Nerfing turret is retarded, I'm sure they followed Saintvicious' whine a little too much, that's the boring part, since Riot is Na, Na players have a direct link to the company and can influence the evolution of the game more than other region.



That's such a stupid stupid assumption to make of any developer that's international. I have no idea what makes you think NA region is the only one taken into account with the decisions being made. Seriously, it's pretty borderline delusional to say such a thing.

You think ? I think it's a pretty safe assumption. I recon Saintvicious and other various NA players had the opportunity to play some game at Riot office and test new heroes before they were even announced (it was for Vi) is it stupid to assume that they could talk during those kind of meeting ?
I'm not saying Riot are dumb and just listen to NA (as the poster above, they have put various medium to let the information flow between them and the pro players all around the world), I'm saying since Riot is in NA, their deepest connection is with the NA scene, the scene that has gone vocal a few time about the tower and their "need" to be buffed, and also the scene where the meta is the most stagnant in regard to towers (always 3 man dive top, most of the time with a lane swap).
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
March 29 2013 00:16 GMT
#312
On March 29 2013 08:27 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 08:18 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 29 2013 08:09 ketchup wrote:
has anyone been watching jiji's stream recently? he's still damn entertaining to watch with some of his plays he makes. It seems like he's getting better again. I just wonder if his team can bring it out of him in tournament matches.

oh jijimon, you're still my favorite despite never giving me a notion that you take LoL srsly. :<
He's fun to watch, sure, but I can never tell when he tryhards.


Truth. There's no way to tell. I have to wonder if he uses music while in tourneys, or if he is/was not allowed to. Which makes me question if voice chat/ atmosphere effects his game play during tournaments. Can't be jiji without jiji whistling!

Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 08:19 WhiteDog wrote:
I tried trust me.


Nerfing turret is retarded, I'm sure they followed Saintvicious' whine a little too much, that's the boring part, since Riot is Na, Na players have a direct link to the company and can influence the evolution of the game more than other region.



That's such a stupid stupid assumption to make of any developer that's international. I have no idea what makes you think NA region is the only one taken into account with the decisions being made. Seriously, it's pretty borderline delusional to say such a thing.

maybe becauseeeeee,riots HQ is in NA and they frequently invite pro players there which happen to be from NA TT
It's not dumb to assume that they listen mostly to them since they are mostly surrounded with na players
Cackle™
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 29 2013 00:20 GMT
#313
Riot taking all the NA LCS players to Benihana, wtfffff.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
March 29 2013 00:25 GMT
#314
On March 29 2013 09:20 NeoIllusions wrote:
Riot taking all the NA LCS players to Benihana, wtfffff.


Which city? I need to conveniently stop by there for dinner tonight..
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
March 29 2013 00:25 GMT
#315
Soooo.

Maxing Q + R on udyr...

that's a lot of damage.
Retvrn to Forvms
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
March 29 2013 00:29 GMT
#316
On March 29 2013 09:16 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 08:27 ketchup wrote:
On March 29 2013 08:18 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 29 2013 08:09 ketchup wrote:
has anyone been watching jiji's stream recently? he's still damn entertaining to watch with some of his plays he makes. It seems like he's getting better again. I just wonder if his team can bring it out of him in tournament matches.

oh jijimon, you're still my favorite despite never giving me a notion that you take LoL srsly. :<
He's fun to watch, sure, but I can never tell when he tryhards.


Truth. There's no way to tell. I have to wonder if he uses music while in tourneys, or if he is/was not allowed to. Which makes me question if voice chat/ atmosphere effects his game play during tournaments. Can't be jiji without jiji whistling!

On March 29 2013 08:19 WhiteDog wrote:
I tried trust me.


Nerfing turret is retarded, I'm sure they followed Saintvicious' whine a little too much, that's the boring part, since Riot is Na, Na players have a direct link to the company and can influence the evolution of the game more than other region.



That's such a stupid stupid assumption to make of any developer that's international. I have no idea what makes you think NA region is the only one taken into account with the decisions being made. Seriously, it's pretty borderline delusional to say such a thing.

maybe becauseeeeee,riots HQ is in NA and they frequently invite pro players there which happen to be from NA TT
It's not dumb to assume that they listen mostly to them since they are mostly surrounded with na players


I seem to remember the entire NA scene(pro's included) whining that Ezreal was terrible and needed buffs and Riot said he's doing fine in China? I don't seem to remember many other changes to Ezreal except some mana reductions and suddenly Ezreal everyplace.

Pretty sure Riot looks at everything considering some champions just don't catch on NA for ages(Zed, Eve now, S2 Ezreal, TF, Gragas, Rumble..)
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 29 2013 00:29 GMT
#317
On March 29 2013 09:25 Mondeezy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 09:20 NeoIllusions wrote:
Riot taking all the NA LCS players to Benihana, wtfffff.


Which city? I need to conveniently stop by there for dinner tonight..


Riot HQ is based in Santa Monica, CA. So I assume the Benihana closest to there. :O
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
March 29 2013 00:30 GMT
#318
On March 29 2013 09:29 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 09:25 Mondeezy wrote:
On March 29 2013 09:20 NeoIllusions wrote:
Riot taking all the NA LCS players to Benihana, wtfffff.


Which city? I need to conveniently stop by there for dinner tonight..


Riot HQ is based in Santa Monica, CA. So I assume the Benihana closest to there. :O


Only 30 minutes away...brb making reservations for one. Awww yeah.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
March 29 2013 00:33 GMT
#319
Nothing ever happens in Pennsylvania. =[

Oh yeah QQ thread is that way, I'll show myself out.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 29 2013 00:34 GMT
#320
Just because Koreans take advantage of weak turrets doesn't mean they enjoy them.

The fact is LoL is becoming a spectator sport, and laneswaps are boring to watch.
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