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[Patch 3.05.1: Karma Remake] General Discussion - Page 17

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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 29 2013 00:36 GMT
#321
On March 29 2013 09:30 Mondeezy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 09:29 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 29 2013 09:25 Mondeezy wrote:
On March 29 2013 09:20 NeoIllusions wrote:
Riot taking all the NA LCS players to Benihana, wtfffff.


Which city? I need to conveniently stop by there for dinner tonight..


Riot HQ is based in Santa Monica, CA. So I assume the Benihana closest to there. :O


Only 30 minutes away...brb making reservations for one. Awww yeah.


l0l... gl. Don't be mad if they're not there. :X
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
March 29 2013 00:41 GMT
#322
Riot TL spays: Abort abort!
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
March 29 2013 00:48 GMT
#323
On March 29 2013 09:36 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 09:30 Mondeezy wrote:
On March 29 2013 09:29 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 29 2013 09:25 Mondeezy wrote:
On March 29 2013 09:20 NeoIllusions wrote:
Riot taking all the NA LCS players to Benihana, wtfffff.


Which city? I need to conveniently stop by there for dinner tonight..


Riot HQ is based in Santa Monica, CA. So I assume the Benihana closest to there. :O


Only 30 minutes away...brb making reservations for one. Awww yeah.


l0l... gl. Don't be mad if they're not there. :X

don't be mad if the food is terrible too.

On March 29 2013 09:34 cLutZ wrote:
Just because Koreans take advantage of weak turrets doesn't mean they enjoy them.

The fact is LoL is becoming a spectator sport, and laneswaps are boring to watch.

laneswaps are boring to watch? are you kidding me? have you watched any of the gigabyte starswar league? the early destruction of the tower as well as the imbalance in lanes has led to a lot of exciting early action. teams are skirmishing more and even at the 10 minute mark you still see some semblance of laning phase that is only more exciting and riskier because there is no tower.

that's not to say laneswaps are better, they're just a different way to play the game. hell i get excited watching the level 1 fights, level 1s are insane when you realize the mindgames people are playing.


i don't think the stronger turrets will change much, i just think it means your dives can't be sloppy anymore.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
March 29 2013 00:52 GMT
#324
So apparently this coach bus has outlets and wifi l0l

Anyone play new Karma yet????
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Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
March 29 2013 00:55 GMT
#325
On March 29 2013 09:52 jcarlsoniv wrote:
So apparently this coach bus has outlets and wifi l0l

Anyone play new Karma yet????

karma disabled at the moment.


Also tower changes wont make the 2v1 and the lane swapping go away might make it not happen under 4 minutes but it'll still happen. *shrug* This really feels like overreaction by people
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Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 00:57:15
March 29 2013 00:56 GMT
#326
On March 29 2013 09:36 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 09:30 Mondeezy wrote:
On March 29 2013 09:29 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 29 2013 09:25 Mondeezy wrote:
On March 29 2013 09:20 NeoIllusions wrote:
Riot taking all the NA LCS players to Benihana, wtfffff.


Which city? I need to conveniently stop by there for dinner tonight..


Riot HQ is based in Santa Monica, CA. So I assume the Benihana closest to there. :O


Only 30 minutes away...brb making reservations for one. Awww yeah.


l0l... gl. Don't be mad if they're not there. :X


If they're not there, you're paying the bill :D

Besides, I'd fit right in..Up and coming Gold 1 making my way to challenger yo.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 29 2013 00:58 GMT
#327
On March 29 2013 09:48 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 09:36 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 29 2013 09:30 Mondeezy wrote:
On March 29 2013 09:29 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 29 2013 09:25 Mondeezy wrote:
On March 29 2013 09:20 NeoIllusions wrote:
Riot taking all the NA LCS players to Benihana, wtfffff.


Which city? I need to conveniently stop by there for dinner tonight..


Riot HQ is based in Santa Monica, CA. So I assume the Benihana closest to there. :O


Only 30 minutes away...brb making reservations for one. Awww yeah.


l0l... gl. Don't be mad if they're not there. :X

don't be mad if the food is terrible too.

Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 09:34 cLutZ wrote:
Just because Koreans take advantage of weak turrets doesn't mean they enjoy them.

The fact is LoL is becoming a spectator sport, and laneswaps are boring to watch.

laneswaps are boring to watch? are you kidding me? have you watched any of the gigabyte starswar league? the early destruction of the tower as well as the imbalance in lanes has led to a lot of exciting early action. teams are skirmishing more and even at the 10 minute mark you still see some semblance of laning phase that is only more exciting and riskier because there is no tower.

that's not to say laneswaps are better, they're just a different way to play the game. hell i get excited watching the level 1 fights, level 1s are insane when you realize the mindgames people are playing.


i don't think the stronger turrets will change much, i just think it means your dives can't be sloppy anymore.


GSWL laneswaps are sometimes exciting. However, most of those instances are where the laneswap is to mid, and the team tries to use the power to gain early dragons. This change barely affects this strat. The goal is to make the Purple switches to top laneswap less stagnant. Because in that situation, the outcome of a dive is not in question for the viewers who are not "in the dark" because of fog. We know it will be a 2v1, 3v1, 3v2. Thus, any plays based on the players not having that knowledge are not interesting to watch.
Freeeeeeedom
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
March 29 2013 01:03 GMT
#328
On March 29 2013 09:55 Parnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 09:52 jcarlsoniv wrote:
So apparently this coach bus has outlets and wifi l0l

Anyone play new Karma yet????

karma disabled at the moment.


Also tower changes wont make the 2v1 and the lane swapping go away might make it not happen under 4 minutes but it'll still happen. *shrug* This really feels like overreaction by people


Even if it is an overreaction it's still riot pushing the game in a more passive direction, which is worrying because passive is not fun to watch. At all.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
March 29 2013 01:11 GMT
#329
Azubu.tv so butt, don't know who is streaming.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 01:37:50
March 29 2013 01:20 GMT
#330
On March 29 2013 09:58 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 09:48 kainzero wrote:
On March 29 2013 09:36 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 29 2013 09:30 Mondeezy wrote:
On March 29 2013 09:29 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 29 2013 09:25 Mondeezy wrote:
On March 29 2013 09:20 NeoIllusions wrote:
Riot taking all the NA LCS players to Benihana, wtfffff.


Which city? I need to conveniently stop by there for dinner tonight..


Riot HQ is based in Santa Monica, CA. So I assume the Benihana closest to there. :O


Only 30 minutes away...brb making reservations for one. Awww yeah.


l0l... gl. Don't be mad if they're not there. :X

don't be mad if the food is terrible too.

On March 29 2013 09:34 cLutZ wrote:
Just because Koreans take advantage of weak turrets doesn't mean they enjoy them.

The fact is LoL is becoming a spectator sport, and laneswaps are boring to watch.

laneswaps are boring to watch? are you kidding me? have you watched any of the gigabyte starswar league? the early destruction of the tower as well as the imbalance in lanes has led to a lot of exciting early action. teams are skirmishing more and even at the 10 minute mark you still see some semblance of laning phase that is only more exciting and riskier because there is no tower.

that's not to say laneswaps are better, they're just a different way to play the game. hell i get excited watching the level 1 fights, level 1s are insane when you realize the mindgames people are playing.


i don't think the stronger turrets will change much, i just think it means your dives can't be sloppy anymore.


GSWL laneswaps are sometimes exciting. However, most of those instances are where the laneswap is to mid, and the team tries to use the power to gain early dragons. This change barely affects this strat. The goal is to make the Purple switches to top laneswap less stagnant. Because in that situation, the outcome of a dive is not in question for the viewers who are not "in the dark" because of fog. We know it will be a 2v1, 3v1, 3v2. Thus, any plays based on the players not having that knowledge are not interesting to watch.

I think asking "is it interesting" is not really relevant because it really depend on a lot of things. Is it fun to see HotshotGG getting smashed four time in a row by a 3 man dive ? No. Is it fun to see Spontexx defend a 3vs1 and get a triple kill ? Most def. Weak tower promote action, wheither that action is boring or not.

What I'm more interested is in the impact of a tower buff on the current meta. There are a some teams (Fnatic) that really abuse the current tower situation to a point where their play style is absolutly reliant on that, and really a tower buff mid season is questionable in this regard. What impact will it have ?
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 01:34:38
March 29 2013 01:32 GMT
#331
People might disagree but in league people seem to take pretty much any nerf/buff waaaaaayyyyy too seriously.Like this change won't make tower diving impossible.It will just take some more games to figure out how much you can afford to tank and we all will probably die a few times because we aren't used to it but that's it.

edit:I hope finally me being too cheap to buy full ad runes will be ok and I will get the 1 shot on ranged creeps :D.Or I will just stick to draven ^^.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 29 2013 01:40 GMT
#332
I played a little new Karma on PBE awhile ago. She felt pretty strong, but pretty dependent on her mantra.
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 29 2013 01:45 GMT
#333
Guys, the main voice actor in Bioshock Infinite is the voice of Jayce, pretty sure that means I can talk about it. Play it, that is all.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 01:59:08
March 29 2013 01:54 GMT
#334
On March 29 2013 10:40 ticklishmusic wrote:
I played a little new Karma on PBE awhile ago. She felt pretty strong, but pretty dependent on her mantra.


She just looks like she has everything, the CD on her Q skillshot at 950 range is really stellar. And when mantra'd it has a stupid ratio. CDR will be core as she has almost ryzelike passive, and mantra access.

It really seems like she could go in any role, maybe even jungle.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 02:05:45
March 29 2013 02:04 GMT
#335
On March 29 2013 10:54 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 10:40 ticklishmusic wrote:
I played a little new Karma on PBE awhile ago. She felt pretty strong, but pretty dependent on her mantra.


She just looks like she has everything, the CD on her Q skillshot at 950 range is really stellar. And when mantra'd it has a stupid ratio. CDR will be core as she has almost ryzelike passive, and mantra access.


I think she works really well as a mid, but would be trading the burst from more traditional mids for a lot more utility-- her mantra'd E is probably one of the flat out best spells in the game right now-- it makes a total of thousands of HP difference in a fight, and the speedboost is really sweet as well.

Given her wave clear, sustain, shield, CC< poke and pseudo escapes, I think she would work as a sort of anti mage-- keep the enemy mid at a manageable level, then pretty much negate their burst in fights.

I feel playing her as a support would be a waste. You'd probably build something like Shurleyas/ Twin Shadows/ Grail/Crucible, then idunno.

EDIT: Mantra gives her a >1 ratio on all her spells.
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Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 02:09:01
March 29 2013 02:07 GMT
#336
What the hell is up with Ranked Teams matchmaking?

Our team is in Bronze I with two Silver players and three Golds. We get matched against a team with four Diamond Is and one Platinum IV.

Like, I enjoy playing against better players than me, but there's a limit at which you don't learn much...
I am the Town Medic.
QuakerOats
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1024 Posts
March 29 2013 02:17 GMT
#337
On March 29 2013 11:07 Alzadar wrote:
What the hell is up with Ranked Teams matchmaking?

Our team is in Bronze I with two Silver players and three Golds. We get matched against a team with four Diamond Is and one Platinum IV.

Like, I enjoy playing against better players than me, but there's a limit at which you don't learn much...


Same happened to me, it was one of our promotion matches in Silver 3 and we got put up against 4 diamond and 1 plat. GG Riot.
dottycakes
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada548 Posts
March 29 2013 02:19 GMT
#338
That's cause solo queue elo has nothing to do with team queue.
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
March 29 2013 02:32 GMT
#339
Man the first Bioshock is one of my favourite games of all time but I just can't justify spending 60$ on a game anymore... must avoid spoilers for a year until it goes on sale.
Retvrn to Forvms
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 29 2013 02:34 GMT
#340
On March 29 2013 10:20 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 09:58 cLutZ wrote:
On March 29 2013 09:48 kainzero wrote:
On March 29 2013 09:36 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 29 2013 09:30 Mondeezy wrote:
On March 29 2013 09:29 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 29 2013 09:25 Mondeezy wrote:
On March 29 2013 09:20 NeoIllusions wrote:
Riot taking all the NA LCS players to Benihana, wtfffff.


Which city? I need to conveniently stop by there for dinner tonight..


Riot HQ is based in Santa Monica, CA. So I assume the Benihana closest to there. :O


Only 30 minutes away...brb making reservations for one. Awww yeah.


l0l... gl. Don't be mad if they're not there. :X

don't be mad if the food is terrible too.

On March 29 2013 09:34 cLutZ wrote:
Just because Koreans take advantage of weak turrets doesn't mean they enjoy them.

The fact is LoL is becoming a spectator sport, and laneswaps are boring to watch.

laneswaps are boring to watch? are you kidding me? have you watched any of the gigabyte starswar league? the early destruction of the tower as well as the imbalance in lanes has led to a lot of exciting early action. teams are skirmishing more and even at the 10 minute mark you still see some semblance of laning phase that is only more exciting and riskier because there is no tower.

that's not to say laneswaps are better, they're just a different way to play the game. hell i get excited watching the level 1 fights, level 1s are insane when you realize the mindgames people are playing.


i don't think the stronger turrets will change much, i just think it means your dives can't be sloppy anymore.


GSWL laneswaps are sometimes exciting. However, most of those instances are where the laneswap is to mid, and the team tries to use the power to gain early dragons. This change barely affects this strat. The goal is to make the Purple switches to top laneswap less stagnant. Because in that situation, the outcome of a dive is not in question for the viewers who are not "in the dark" because of fog. We know it will be a 2v1, 3v1, 3v2. Thus, any plays based on the players not having that knowledge are not interesting to watch.

I think asking "is it interesting" is not really relevant because it really depend on a lot of things. Is it fun to see HotshotGG getting smashed four time in a row by a 3 man dive ? No. Is it fun to see Spontexx defend a 3vs1 and get a triple kill ? Most def. Weak tower promote action, wheither that action is boring or not.

What I'm more interested is in the impact of a tower buff on the current meta. There are a some teams (Fnatic) that really abuse the current tower situation to a point where their play style is absolutly reliant on that, and really a tower buff mid season is questionable in this regard. What impact will it have ?


I think its more than just defending 3v1 dives, its an attempt to change the calculus of the game. There are a bunch of things that Riot has said they don't like. One thing they don't like is passivity, but they also don't like earlygame ganks having such a huge effect.

While in the pros it probably encourages the more interesting type of laneswap (mid) over toplane and hopefully encourages more dragonfights, it also has the desirable soloQ effect of preventing excessive snowballing.

Probably it would be best if the change was only to outer Top/Bot turrets.
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