EPT[Patch 3.05.1: Karma Remake] General Discussion - Page 19
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overt
United States9006 Posts
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LOLItsRyann
England551 Posts
On March 29 2013 12:37 Alaric wrote: Zac spotlight: Is tonights patch giving us Zac? | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On March 29 2013 11:53 RagequitBM wrote: Yeah I agree with that. They should use average team soloq elo to determine your starting point in teams I think. I got matched up against a team whose lowest elo was 2000 back in season 2. Needless to say my butt felt raw after that game. as a silver player who teams with low gold players in arranged 5s, we've stomped teams with plats and diamonds. | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
On March 29 2013 12:39 overt wrote: I don't really see why it's a big deal anyways. Ranked 5s provides a path to getting a Riot salary. If you're not prepared to have your anus torn asunder by people better than you then don't play ranked 5s. There's nothing to stop you from just 5 queuing in Normal Draft to practice fundamentals if you don't want a bunch of ranked losses. Ewww normal draft It's like the mess of blindpick but with added tryhardiness | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
On March 29 2013 12:41 kainzero wrote: as a silver player who teams with low gold players in arranged 5s, we've stomped teams with plats and diamonds. A team with random high elo players would lose every time to a team of coordinated but lower elo players. I've seen this time and time again. 5's is a completely different game than solo queue, there's a separate body of knowledge that needs to be learned no matter how high elo you are. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
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Feartheguru
Canada1334 Posts
On March 29 2013 12:41 kainzero wrote: as a silver player who teams with low gold players in arranged 5s, we've stomped teams with plats and diamonds. I call B.S. a team of random plats will always win vs a team of silvers, does not matter the coordination. If you're silver you have no game sense, 5 people with no game sense is still no game sense. | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On March 29 2013 13:16 Feartheguru wrote: I call B.S. a team of random plats will always win vs a team of silvers, does not matter the coordination. If you're silver you have no game sense, 5 people with no game sense is still no game sense. A team of silvers that tryhard will win against a team of plats that troll each other though. | ||
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Feartheguru
Canada1334 Posts
On March 29 2013 13:19 thenexusp wrote: A team of silvers that tryhard will win against a team of plats that troll each other though. The skill difference between silver and plat is pretty cataclysmic. A plat person playing in silver can easily have an 80% win rate, now with 5 plats, it really doesn't take any effort. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On March 29 2013 13:22 Feartheguru wrote: The skill difference between silver and plat is pretty cataclysmic. A plat person playing in silver can easily have an 80% win rate, now with 5 plats, it really doesn't take any effort. A plat playing in silver soloqueue can have an 80% win rate. That does not mean that plats have some unbeatable skill over silvers. | ||
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dae
Canada1600 Posts
On March 29 2013 12:48 zulu_nation8 wrote: A team with random high elo players would lose every time to a team of coordinated but lower elo players. I've seen this time and time again. 5's is a completely different game than solo queue, there's a separate body of knowledge that needs to be learned no matter how high elo you are. This is true up to a point - A team with all Diamond 1's has a hard time losing vs anyone not in Diamond, as laning/teamfighting is usually way too 1 sided. The lower skilled team has to pull off really good ganks/coordinated plays, which is really hard to do when every lane is losing or at best going even. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On March 29 2013 13:26 Goumindong wrote: A plat playing in silver soloqueue can have an 80% win rate. That does not mean that plats have some unbeatable skill over silvers. If you have 5 plats, they could probably all hard random and still win the game if they are tryharding. | ||
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
On March 29 2013 12:37 Alaric wrote: Zac spotlight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lr8kHe4vqZQ Looks really OP. The go to champ in a tower dive team? lol. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On March 29 2013 12:48 zulu_nation8 wrote: A team with random high elo players would lose every time to a team of coordinated but lower elo players. I've seen this time and time again. 5's is a completely different game than solo queue, there's a separate body of knowledge that needs to be learned no matter how high elo you are. You really need to put something like this into perspective though. 5 diamonds vs 5 plats, sure the "lower" elo team here definitely has a possibility of winning with better coordination. But 5 diamonds vs silvers and/or golds? They won't make it out of laning phase strong enough to make use of their coordination. Elo isn't a be all, end all but it is still a metric of some sort. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On March 29 2013 12:48 zulu_nation8 wrote: A team with random high elo players would lose every time to a team of coordinated but lower elo players. I've seen this time and time again. 5's is a completely different game than solo queue, there's a separate body of knowledge that needs to be learned no matter how high elo you are. Just to echo others, I've played with friends who are all gold/plat and we've been able to beat teams of low diamonds due to better coordination. But the few times we've gone up against people in mid-high diamond we've been stomped. Even if we make plays and are more coordinated with early dives/skirmishes and such, we simply just get out-laned hard and lose due to snowball. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On March 29 2013 11:32 Chrispy wrote: Man the first Bioshock is one of my favourite games of all time but I just can't justify spending 60$ on a game anymore... must avoid spoilers for a year until it goes on sale. I really hope you can do this, there's definitively some stuff that loses its impact if spoiled (much like the first game). But yeah both Bioshock games (there are only two right? hue) are easily in my top games of all time. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
Catch a lux near river with a slow and dont kill her till inhib tower 3v1? | ||
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ItsFunToLose
United States776 Posts
On March 29 2013 11:19 dottycakes wrote: That's cause solo queue elo has nothing to do with team queue. nothing? really? lets bet even money, and ill take the team with the higher solo queue ratings. $100 a game on every game played, trust riot to keep stats. Run it until one of us is broke. On March 29 2013 14:34 cLutZ wrote: Zac didn't look that strong during that Lux chase in the spotlight. Catch a lux near river with a slow and dont kill her till inhib tower 3v1? lux champion spotlight | ||
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