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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35158 Posts
March 29 2013 05:45 GMT
#381
On March 29 2013 14:34 cLutZ wrote:
Zac didn't look that strong during that Lux chase in the spotlight.

Catch a lux near river with a slow and dont kill her till inhib tower 3v1?

Lux is a bitch and a half to catch if she has any spacing.
JeosAdn
Profile Joined September 2011
Costa Rica432 Posts
March 29 2013 05:49 GMT
#382
Scarra is streaming. Decides to random every game and play any role. First game: randoms Gragas lol
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
March 29 2013 05:52 GMT
#383
On March 29 2013 13:22 Feartheguru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 13:19 thenexusp wrote:
On March 29 2013 13:16 Feartheguru wrote:
On March 29 2013 12:41 kainzero wrote:
On March 29 2013 11:53 RagequitBM wrote:
On March 29 2013 11:41 Alzadar wrote:
On March 29 2013 11:19 dottycakes wrote:
That's cause solo queue elo has nothing to do with team queue.


A team with four Diamond Is doing placements should not be matched with a Bronze I team, it's absurd.


Yeah I agree with that. They should use average team soloq elo to determine your starting point in teams I think. I got matched up against a team whose lowest elo was 2000 back in season 2. Needless to say my butt felt raw after that game.

as a silver player who teams with low gold players in arranged 5s, we've stomped teams with plats and diamonds.


I call B.S. a team of random plats will always win vs a team of silvers, does not matter the coordination. If you're silver you have no game sense, 5 people with no game sense is still no game sense.

A team of silvers that tryhard will win against a team of plats that troll each other though.


The skill difference between silver and plat is pretty cataclysmic. A plat person playing in silver can easily have an 80% win rate, now with 5 plats, it really doesn't take any effort.

Some people have come up with some pretty creative trolls.

I knew a guy who had his entire team troll their jungle alistar by having everyone have the exact same inventory as him. Whenever ali recalled or died, everyone recalled at once; they bought the exact same items (ad and support split farm so support can afford them); when alistar used a ward, everyone dropped a ward where they were standing at once. "Alistar you should buy some damage items" "why ali's a tank" "just cause, we won't have any damage if you don't" "what are you talking abou--what the fuck"
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 06:00:26
March 29 2013 06:00 GMT
#384
that's called follow the leader or captain mode and it's fantastic when queueing up as 4 people

i feel like it was caller's creation
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 06:06:48
March 29 2013 06:05 GMT
#385
My friends and I call it commander mode, but we only do it in aram with an 8 man stack nowadays :X I should probably write a post about it or something since there's no point in keeping it secret anymore now that aram queues are going to come out and it'll be impossible to do.
:3
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 06:15:33
March 29 2013 06:14 GMT
#386
On March 29 2013 09:29 Parnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 09:16 TheKefka wrote:
On March 29 2013 08:27 ketchup wrote:
On March 29 2013 08:18 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 29 2013 08:09 ketchup wrote:
has anyone been watching jiji's stream recently? he's still damn entertaining to watch with some of his plays he makes. It seems like he's getting better again. I just wonder if his team can bring it out of him in tournament matches.

oh jijimon, you're still my favorite despite never giving me a notion that you take LoL srsly. :<
He's fun to watch, sure, but I can never tell when he tryhards.


Truth. There's no way to tell. I have to wonder if he uses music while in tourneys, or if he is/was not allowed to. Which makes me question if voice chat/ atmosphere effects his game play during tournaments. Can't be jiji without jiji whistling!

On March 29 2013 08:19 WhiteDog wrote:
I tried trust me.


Nerfing turret is retarded, I'm sure they followed Saintvicious' whine a little too much, that's the boring part, since Riot is Na, Na players have a direct link to the company and can influence the evolution of the game more than other region.



That's such a stupid stupid assumption to make of any developer that's international. I have no idea what makes you think NA region is the only one taken into account with the decisions being made. Seriously, it's pretty borderline delusional to say such a thing.

maybe becauseeeeee,riots HQ is in NA and they frequently invite pro players there which happen to be from NA TT
It's not dumb to assume that they listen mostly to them since they are mostly surrounded with na players


I seem to remember the entire NA scene(pro's included) whining that Ezreal was terrible and needed buffs and Riot said he's doing fine in China? I don't seem to remember many other changes to Ezreal except some mana reductions and suddenly Ezreal everyplace.

Pretty sure Riot looks at everything considering some champions just don't catch on NA for ages(Zed, Eve now, S2 Ezreal, TF, Gragas, Rumble..)

Proof actually. Ezreal was OP in China, NA screamed weak, EZ got buff.

I'm sure Riot takes into account opinions of all regions, but it's also true NA players get to whisper in their ear more often.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
March 29 2013 06:58 GMT
#387
On March 29 2013 15:14 cascades wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 09:29 Parnage wrote:
On March 29 2013 09:16 TheKefka wrote:
On March 29 2013 08:27 ketchup wrote:
On March 29 2013 08:18 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 29 2013 08:09 ketchup wrote:
has anyone been watching jiji's stream recently? he's still damn entertaining to watch with some of his plays he makes. It seems like he's getting better again. I just wonder if his team can bring it out of him in tournament matches.

oh jijimon, you're still my favorite despite never giving me a notion that you take LoL srsly. :<
He's fun to watch, sure, but I can never tell when he tryhards.


Truth. There's no way to tell. I have to wonder if he uses music while in tourneys, or if he is/was not allowed to. Which makes me question if voice chat/ atmosphere effects his game play during tournaments. Can't be jiji without jiji whistling!

On March 29 2013 08:19 WhiteDog wrote:
I tried trust me.


Nerfing turret is retarded, I'm sure they followed Saintvicious' whine a little too much, that's the boring part, since Riot is Na, Na players have a direct link to the company and can influence the evolution of the game more than other region.



That's such a stupid stupid assumption to make of any developer that's international. I have no idea what makes you think NA region is the only one taken into account with the decisions being made. Seriously, it's pretty borderline delusional to say such a thing.

maybe becauseeeeee,riots HQ is in NA and they frequently invite pro players there which happen to be from NA TT
It's not dumb to assume that they listen mostly to them since they are mostly surrounded with na players


I seem to remember the entire NA scene(pro's included) whining that Ezreal was terrible and needed buffs and Riot said he's doing fine in China? I don't seem to remember many other changes to Ezreal except some mana reductions and suddenly Ezreal everyplace.

Pretty sure Riot looks at everything considering some champions just don't catch on NA for ages(Zed, Eve now, S2 Ezreal, TF, Gragas, Rumble..)

Proof actually. Ezreal was OP in China, NA screamed weak, EZ got buff.

I'm sure Riot takes into account opinions of all regions, but it's also true NA players get to whisper in their ear more often.

Sounds like reverse blizzard

"Foreigner terran can't win"
"It's k Korean terran still 70% w/l, terran still need nerfs"
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 29 2013 07:18 GMT
#388
On March 29 2013 15:14 cascades wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 09:29 Parnage wrote:
On March 29 2013 09:16 TheKefka wrote:
On March 29 2013 08:27 ketchup wrote:
On March 29 2013 08:18 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 29 2013 08:09 ketchup wrote:
has anyone been watching jiji's stream recently? he's still damn entertaining to watch with some of his plays he makes. It seems like he's getting better again. I just wonder if his team can bring it out of him in tournament matches.

oh jijimon, you're still my favorite despite never giving me a notion that you take LoL srsly. :<
He's fun to watch, sure, but I can never tell when he tryhards.


Truth. There's no way to tell. I have to wonder if he uses music while in tourneys, or if he is/was not allowed to. Which makes me question if voice chat/ atmosphere effects his game play during tournaments. Can't be jiji without jiji whistling!

On March 29 2013 08:19 WhiteDog wrote:
I tried trust me.


Nerfing turret is retarded, I'm sure they followed Saintvicious' whine a little too much, that's the boring part, since Riot is Na, Na players have a direct link to the company and can influence the evolution of the game more than other region.



That's such a stupid stupid assumption to make of any developer that's international. I have no idea what makes you think NA region is the only one taken into account with the decisions being made. Seriously, it's pretty borderline delusional to say such a thing.

maybe becauseeeeee,riots HQ is in NA and they frequently invite pro players there which happen to be from NA TT
It's not dumb to assume that they listen mostly to them since they are mostly surrounded with na players


I seem to remember the entire NA scene(pro's included) whining that Ezreal was terrible and needed buffs and Riot said he's doing fine in China? I don't seem to remember many other changes to Ezreal except some mana reductions and suddenly Ezreal everyplace.

Pretty sure Riot looks at everything considering some champions just don't catch on NA for ages(Zed, Eve now, S2 Ezreal, TF, Gragas, Rumble..)

Proof actually. Ezreal was OP in China, NA screamed weak, EZ got buff.

I'm sure Riot takes into account opinions of all regions, but it's also true NA players get to whisper in their ear more often.

Ez also got hit by the nerfbat, a lot harder than the buff bat.
liftlift > tsm
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 08:32:12
March 29 2013 08:12 GMT
#389
On March 29 2013 13:56 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 12:48 zulu_nation8 wrote:
On March 29 2013 12:41 kainzero wrote:
On March 29 2013 11:53 RagequitBM wrote:
On March 29 2013 11:41 Alzadar wrote:
On March 29 2013 11:19 dottycakes wrote:
That's cause solo queue elo has nothing to do with team queue.


A team with four Diamond Is doing placements should not be matched with a Bronze I team, it's absurd.


Yeah I agree with that. They should use average team soloq elo to determine your starting point in teams I think. I got matched up against a team whose lowest elo was 2000 back in season 2. Needless to say my butt felt raw after that game.

as a silver player who teams with low gold players in arranged 5s, we've stomped teams with plats and diamonds.


A team with random high elo players would lose every time to a team of coordinated but lower elo players. I've seen this time and time again. 5's is a completely different game than solo queue, there's a separate body of knowledge that needs to be learned no matter how high elo you are.


You really need to put something like this into perspective though. 5 diamonds vs 5 plats, sure the "lower" elo team here definitely has a possibility of winning with better coordination. But 5 diamonds vs silvers and/or golds? They won't make it out of laning phase strong enough to make use of their coordination.

Elo isn't a be all, end all but it is still a metric of some sort.

A friend of mine is in a french team called prelude. He is a silver support and the players in the team are all gold at best and they win diamond team every week. They play together a lot tho (3 times a week with tourney on week ends) and they have solid mecanics but suck at decision making in soloq (dem 1 vs 5, dem throw).
They also take it quite seriously (they have a stream that cast their matches and all).

I also think elo is a metric, but it can be compensated and a lot of people do less mistaked when they listen to the designated lead on skype.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 29 2013 08:30 GMT
#390
By "they win diamond team every week" do you mean Diamond in 5s or teams made up of Diamond solo queue players?

Because there's an enormous difference. It's likely that the majority of Diamond teams in 5s aren't actually made up of Diamond players and are actually just other equally bad silver and gold players.
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WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 08:36:06
March 29 2013 08:33 GMT
#391
On March 29 2013 17:30 TheYango wrote:
By "they win diamond team every week" do you mean Diamond in 5s or teams made up of Diamond solo queue players?

Because there's an enormous difference. It's likely that the majority of Diamond teams in 5s aren't actually made up of Diamond players and are actually just other equally bad silver and gold players.

Ho no I misread. A team made of diamond in soloq. They achieved second in the last french go4lol like cup. (No good team play that cup tho)
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
March 29 2013 08:35 GMT
#392
On March 29 2013 17:33 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 17:30 TheYango wrote:
By "they win diamond team every week" do you mean Diamond in 5s or teams made up of Diamond solo queue players?

Because there's an enormous difference. It's likely that the majority of Diamond teams in 5s aren't actually made up of Diamond players and are actually just other equally bad silver and gold players.

Ho no I misread. Diamond in soloq. They achieved second in the last french go4lol like cup.

I don't trust ratings honestly

Especially since I have a bronze V account at plat/diamond mmr
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 08:45:15
March 29 2013 08:37 GMT
#393
On March 29 2013 17:35 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 17:33 WhiteDog wrote:
On March 29 2013 17:30 TheYango wrote:
By "they win diamond team every week" do you mean Diamond in 5s or teams made up of Diamond solo queue players?

Because there's an enormous difference. It's likely that the majority of Diamond teams in 5s aren't actually made up of Diamond players and are actually just other equally bad silver and gold players.

Ho no I misread. Diamond in soloq. They achieved second in the last french go4lol like cup.

I don't trust ratings honestly

Especially since I have a bronze V account at plat/diamond mmr

Yeah it's safe to assume some of them could achieve plat if they wanted to.
And if I remember well they could beat plat team in the previous season but would always be badly destroyed against diamond then.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
March 29 2013 08:37 GMT
#394
From reddit, the best thing ever found:

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1b81m5/til_champion_select_supports_logical_or_symbol/

WHY WAS THIS NOT FOUND EARLIER?!
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
March 29 2013 08:54 GMT
#395
On March 29 2013 17:37 ketchup wrote:
From reddit, the best thing ever found:

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1b81m5/til_champion_select_supports_logical_or_symbol/

WHY WAS THIS NOT FOUND EARLIER?!


holy shit the champ searcher thing is just straight up regex

want to see which champs have the letter their name starts with two additional times in their name? search for ^(.).*\1.*\1
:3
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
March 29 2013 08:59 GMT
#396
Zac seems to be a possible legit jungler. The charged jump range is impressive.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
ItsFunToLose
Profile Joined December 2010
United States776 Posts
March 29 2013 09:01 GMT
#397
On March 29 2013 17:54 Eiii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 17:37 ketchup wrote:
From reddit, the best thing ever found:

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1b81m5/til_champion_select_supports_logical_or_symbol/

WHY WAS THIS NOT FOUND EARLIER?!


holy shit the champ searcher thing is just straight up regex

want to see which champs have the letter their name starts with two additional times in their name? search for ^(.).*\1.*\1


poppy and twisted fate. mind. blo asfdsdfjkwaef df





wn.
"skillshots are inherently out of your control whether they hit or not" -PrinceXizor
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
March 29 2013 09:25 GMT
#398
Only two champs' names' letters are in alphabetical order-- fizz and lux. But reverse-alphabetical has sona, vi, zed, and zyra!

I'm learning so many new things.

:3
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 09:49:40
March 29 2013 09:48 GMT
#399
So with 500ap Karma empowered W deals ~1200dmg while healing her for 30% of her missing health.
edit: buy spellvamp for more 1v1 lulz
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 09:57:06
March 29 2013 09:52 GMT
#400
nvm
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