EPTOh right I even have Rumble. No clue how to play as him though, maybe I'll try to learn it. Turns out he's #1 in winrate.
I completely forgot about Rumble because last ~50 games I haven't seen him picked / banned even once in Silver 3 - 1
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Oh right I even have Rumble. No clue how to play as him though, maybe I'll try to learn it. Turns out he's #1 in winrate. I completely forgot about Rumble because last ~50 games I haven't seen him picked / banned even once in Silver 3 - 1 | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On March 26 2013 05:42 Sufficiency wrote: The only bad thing about Trundle, IMO, is that his R is barely visible and hard to utilize without an organized team. Perhaps that's what will be changed. His ult is probably the mechanic of his most likely to be tweaked. His pillar is too iconic to have any significant changes made to it. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On March 26 2013 05:44 onlywonderboy wrote: His ult is probably the mechanic of his most likely to be tweaked. His pillar is too iconic to have any significant changes made to it. I hope they don't change him. I think he's cool, he's just kind of a big ball of really good stats that has a pillar and strong debuff, rather than having a bunch of fancy skills. If anything, just make Ult more visible and maybe add something new to Contaminate. Or if you really want to get silly, maybe have his Bite do something extra if the target he bites is in Contaminate or his Pillar field, like a root or something. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On March 26 2013 05:49 Requizen wrote: I hope they don't change him. I think he's cool, he's just kind of a big ball of really good stats that has a pillar and strong debuff, rather than having a bunch of fancy skills. If anything, just make Ult more visible and maybe add something new to Contaminate. Or if you really want to get silly, maybe have his Bite do something extra if the target he bites is in Contaminate or his Pillar field, like a root or something. I mean I think they equated it to a similar level of the recent Taric changes, so it'll most likely be minor tweaks that have a pretty decent impact but still retain most of the same mechanics. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Trundle with farm is as good a raidboss as Shen. It's not as effective. But it's damn fun. Also Sejuani team player doesn't do as much damage when she builds tabi/bulwark/warden's instead of HP. :'( Still fun. | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
About WW Top, I think he'd be a great candidate to run Teleport too. TeleDuress sounds like an amazing way to show up late but instantly turn a fight around. | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On March 26 2013 06:12 mordek wrote: I recently laned WW top vs a Riven. First few levels I needed to trade smartly and I was pushed to turret for a lot of it but after my first back for a chain fast it was lol. Just sat in the wave and cs'd for free. If you have the river warded and you're not pushing it's pretty easy. If they overestimate how well they can trade and you're both low ult is a free kill. I'm bad at top and it went well for me The Riven vs Warwick match-up is balanced on a knife edge, if you die pre-6 it's lights out, but if you can get a decent lead then she barely hurts. I think a smart Riven should alter her build for a very early LW, but most don't. Playing Purple side is especially scary if they have a jungler who starts red. Riven gets mid to help with wolves and then hits level 2 after 2 creeps, which lets her hardzone you from the wave so that she's 3 when you're still 1 with a triple wave reaching tower. Even if you get all the xp, she has enough of a lead to hit 6 half a wave before you, which is a very good chance of a kill. I suppose the Wolves start thing can work for most matchups, but Riven is one of the scariest at level 2 and 6. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Udyr conquers the enemy jungle. Trundle treats it like the ladies' bathroom where he goes "oh, my bad" and steps calmly out of it while the occupants throw all sorts of stuff at him once he gets seen. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
Bonus points if your mid laner gets in on it too - could possibly take both small camps purple side (if your jungler purple side is doing wolves blue red gank, it won't even hurt his jungle spawns.) | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On March 26 2013 06:22 sylverfyre wrote: Hm. But I could DEFINITELY see a lanewick just soloing the shit out of double golems with like Cloth+pots (mix mana and health pots) or something. That sustain from your passive is SO good at level 1. Bonus points if your mid laner gets in on it too - could possibly take both small camps purple side (if your jungler purple side is doing wolves blue red gank, it won't even hurt his jungle spawns.) Not a bad idea, although it's much more awkward for mid to help with golems than with wolves. Warwick starts Hunters Call to do golems? | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
I hate how after you E someone your first auto doesn't always proc harrier(sometimes does). That's really stupid. The burst is decent with Harrier -> E -> harrier but I'd say overall Quinn sucks. Valor feels really good, though. I almost feel like you should play her as solo mid and build assassin items and just pick up free kills with ult on either lane because you get there in like 3 seconds and deal a ton of damage without the need to rely on skillshots or anything complicated. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On March 26 2013 06:36 Alzadar wrote: Not a bad idea, although it's much more awkward for mid to help with golems than with wolves. Warwick starts Hunters Call to do golems? Could do wraiths instead of golems with mid, I guess. Now the only problem is when you're blue side, and your jungler wants to start blue instead of red? Can start Hunter's call instead of Hungering, you're getting level 2 pretty early in lane and level 1 trades are so heavily autoattack-reliant anyway that W won't exactly be the worst thing in the world (Level 1 W is quite strong, actually.) What runes and masteries do we want to be running on Lanewick? Ideas: 9/14/7 (MPen, block, Mana+summonerCDR) hybrid pen/armor/MR/ ??? quints swap either seals or glyphs to scaling Mana Regen based on lane opponent (no magic damage on opponent = mana regen glyphs, for example) | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Serelitz
Netherlands2895 Posts
On March 26 2013 06:36 Shikyo wrote: Testing Quinn in 1 game: I hate how after you E someone your first auto doesn't always proc harrier(sometimes does). That's really stupid. The burst is decent with Harrier -> E -> harrier but I'd say overall Quinn sucks. Valor feels really good, though. I almost feel like you should play her as solo mid and build assassin items and just pick up free kills with ult on either lane because you get there in like 3 seconds and deal a ton of damage without the need to rely on skillshots or anything complicated. Mid Quinn is probably the best lane for her. I feel like if she got a little boost to her lategame power + a fix to make her unCCable during her E she'd probably fit mid really well. Still a bit gimpy without either of those though. | ||
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
Xspecial just tweeted this: 'I did a vlog today, but I can't upload it right now. Sorry for the vagueness, but when you see it, hopefully you'll understand.' | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On March 26 2013 07:55 schmutttt wrote: Chaox permanent sub/left TSM? Xspecial just tweeted this: 'I did a vlog today, but I can't upload it right now. Sorry for the vagueness, but when you see it, hopefully you'll understand.' That's a pretty big leap you made there. | ||
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
^__^ What else would it be about though? | ||
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Amarok
Australia2003 Posts
Wasn't he having some issues with a girl? | ||
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