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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
March 25 2013 23:49 GMT
#1461
On March 26 2013 08:47 Celestia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 08:38 Serelitz wrote:
I don't watch TSM's reality show but if Chaox really didn't aim to improve it's a completely reasonable decision.

I have been hearing about this TSM reality show a lot, is this serious or just a form of sarcasm?

It's a real show. It's not very good. Yet we still watch it. Like a lot of reality television tbh.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
March 25 2013 23:50 GMT
#1462
On March 26 2013 08:47 Celestia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 08:38 Serelitz wrote:
I don't watch TSM's reality show but if Chaox really didn't aim to improve it's a completely reasonable decision.

I have been hearing about this TSM reality show a lot, is this serious or just a form of sarcasm?


It's real, 'Gamecribs', produced by gamespot with not so subtle advertising for TSM's sponsor (guess that's part of the reason why they promote their show so much).
Drium
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States888 Posts
March 25 2013 23:51 GMT
#1463
My guess is TSM wanted to wait a few weeks before making their decision, but WildTurtle wouldn't let them.

Think of it from Turtle's perspective. He's coming off of an amazing performance with the team so right now is when his perceived value would be the highest. Plus he has another team and if he didn't get picked up by TSM then any time he spent playing with them so they could evaluate him or whatever would cut into practicing with Cloud9 to possibly qualify with them.

He would have every incentive to tell TSM he needs a decision right away, or he will commit to Cloud9. It would let him capitalize on his LCS performance while it was still fresh in their minds, and it would avoid giving them time to work out whatever problems they were having with Chaox.

Or at least that makes way more sense to me then ditching a long time player after 3 games.
KwanROLLLLLLLED
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
March 25 2013 23:54 GMT
#1464
On March 26 2013 08:51 Drium wrote:
My guess is TSM wanted to wait a few weeks before making their decision, but WildTurtle wouldn't let them.

Think of it from Turtle's perspective. He's coming off of an amazing performance with the team so right now is when his perceived value would be the highest. Plus he has another team and if he didn't get picked up by TSM then any time he spent playing with them so they could evaluate him or whatever would cut into practicing with Cloud9 to possibly qualify with them.

He would have every incentive to tell TSM he needs a decision right away, or he will commit to Cloud9. It would let him capitalize on his LCS performance while it was still fresh in their minds, and it would avoid giving them time to work out whatever problems they were having with Chaox.

Or at least that makes way more sense to me then ditching a long time player after 3 games.

Turtle also needs to confirm if he's playing with TSM or competing with Cloud9 for the LCS Promotion Series in May. Riot needs the paperwork in very soon.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 25 2013 23:55 GMT
#1465
On March 26 2013 08:51 Drium wrote:
My guess is TSM wanted to wait a few weeks before making their decision, but WildTurtle wouldn't let them.

Think of it from Turtle's perspective. He's coming off of an amazing performance with the team so right now is when his perceived value would be the highest. Plus he has another team and if he didn't get picked up by TSM then any time he spent playing with them so they could evaluate him or whatever would cut into practicing with Cloud9 to possibly qualify with them.

He would have every incentive to tell TSM he needs a decision right away, or he will commit to Cloud9. It would let him capitalize on his LCS performance while it was still fresh in their minds, and it would avoid giving them time to work out whatever problems they were having with Chaox.

Or at least that makes way more sense to me then ditching a long time player after 3 games.


Hmm, I didn't think of it from that perspective. You're probably right from Turtle's perspective.
C9 just qualified for Spring Promotion and Turtle was a big part of their success. In the sense of rejuvenating their lineup, this is a much needed replacement for TSM.
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
March 25 2013 23:55 GMT
#1466
On March 26 2013 08:49 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 08:47 Celestia wrote:
On March 26 2013 08:38 Serelitz wrote:
I don't watch TSM's reality show but if Chaox really didn't aim to improve it's a completely reasonable decision.

I have been hearing about this TSM reality show a lot, is this serious or just a form of sarcasm?

It's a real show. It's not very good. Yet we still watch it.


speak for yourself

On March 26 2013 03:30 Seuss wrote:
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On March 26 2013 03:18 Requizen wrote:
Wait, apparently Sej is getting a Visual Update? Didn't she like, just come out?


Over a year ago. The visual rework is largely because they finally accepted that a winter princess from the frozen north dressing in a bikini didn't make sense, among other things.


I was kind of surprised because i really thought somebody like eve or sion would get picked next. I think those are the two heroes with the sketchiest graphics atm.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 25 2013 23:55 GMT
#1467
This turtle is the wildest! Wildturtle gogogo!
liftlift > tsm
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
March 25 2013 23:56 GMT
#1468
I wonder what C9 will do now though. I can't imagine they have very long to find a replacement if paperwork is supposed to be due soon. Sucks to be them I guess.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 23:59:25
March 25 2013 23:57 GMT
#1469
On March 26 2013 08:56 Serelitz wrote:
I wonder what C9 will do now though. I can't imagine they have very long to find a replacement if paperwork is supposed to be due soon. Sucks to be them I guess.

There are plenty of rookie adc talent to be picked up, it's a much easier role pickup in na than support or jungle.

On March 26 2013 08:49 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 08:47 Celestia wrote:
On March 26 2013 08:38 Serelitz wrote:
I don't watch TSM's reality show but if Chaox really didn't aim to improve it's a completely reasonable decision.

I have been hearing about this TSM reality show a lot, is this serious or just a form of sarcasm?

It's a real show. It's not very good. Yet we still watch it. Like a lot of reality television tbh.

Speak for yourself. Lol.
liftlift > tsm
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-26 00:01:13
March 26 2013 00:00 GMT
#1470
cloud9 gonna pick up chaox obviously, top5carrynamaybe~
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 26 2013 00:01 GMT
#1471
Karma finally catches up to Chaox.
Moderator
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 26 2013 00:01 GMT
#1472
Feels like we need the SC2 trailer with the marine saying it's about time.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14056 Posts
March 26 2013 00:03 GMT
#1473
dang man. I can't wait to see how this plays out on the reality show.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
March 26 2013 00:07 GMT
#1474
I don't know if Chaox was 100% the problem, but TSM needed a change, kinda like when a stagnant sports team fires a head coach even though he clearly does not have the players, they just needed some kinda change and this opportunity was beyond clear.
Carrilord has arrived.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 26 2013 00:11 GMT
#1475
Was Chaox benched as in "put as official sub", or was he utterly kicked out of the team? The announcement isn't clear and Chaox seems to say it's the later.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-26 00:16:13
March 26 2013 00:15 GMT
#1476
They still have Dan and wingsofdeath so they already meet the minimum requirement for the number of subs even if Chaox is out. The main thing I'm wondering is if Chaox will stay in the house.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
March 26 2013 00:18 GMT
#1477
lucky guess lol

TSM will be really good now I think, hard to watch as a CLG fan -__-
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
March 26 2013 00:18 GMT
#1478
Chaox's problems seemed to go deeper than just performance. He really looked like he wasn't into it. The very first gamecribs (yeah I watch it semi-religiously, it's trashy and you have to ignore the unbelievably blatant product placement but it's still interesting) has a pretty big bust up between him and Regi where Regi threatens to boot him and Chaox says he'd be happy to walk. His attitude at Dallas seemed to be terrible, with multiple instances of being late for practice, showing up to a match hungover (looking like he'd had a massive, massive night) and nearly being late, wandering off with a fangirl before practice and not showing up. The team was pissed at him and it really looked like he didn't care.

Probably best for all parties really. Chaox will either find a way to enjoy the game again or do something else with his life and TSM will have a player that's actually interested in playing for them.

On March 26 2013 08:44 Serelitz wrote:
On an entirely different note - does anyone else obsessively check sales? I have loads of RP right now because I bought some and refunded a Rune page package (saving it for the rune page sale which is supposedly sometime next month).

I'd really love to grab Thresh/Voli/Jayce/Syndra or Vi's skin. I'm also tempted to buy Maokai on sale or Arcade Sona though TT


Yeah I'm obsessive over sales. I took a period of time off from LoL a bit over year ago and I fell so far behind in my champ roster. I don't get loads of time to play so if there's a 6300 champ on sale that I'm even slightly interested in I'll buy it. Don't get me started on skins haha.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
March 26 2013 00:23 GMT
#1479
Maybe Chaox wasnt the only problem, but if half of what they say on gamecribs/twitter/vlogs is true, his attitude was really hurting him and his team. You dont make these dramatic "I will improve and buy this jewellery to remind me of my dedication" vlogs at the beginning of the season to end up showing up hours late to practice with your team at an event, let alone repeat that 2 days later and walking in like nothing wrong happened.

Compare his situation to say Dyrus, who for all his flaws has, just like he said at the beginning of the season, reduced his champion pool and really tightened his play on those champions and has become probably the most reliable performer on TSM in the LCS.
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
Miiike
Profile Joined July 2010
United States141 Posts
March 26 2013 00:28 GMT
#1480
Here's my skin codes from PAX - Used only on NA, so I suppose available everywhere else.

Throw some chrome on this rammus:
NEPNKNRJ37QRJK
NEMMHNYQT7PWQK
Graves:
NETTHDYLJLTHC6
NEVV6DPVXLFP76
gdoOso.448 | LoL NA: Osogrande | DotA 2: GDO.Oso
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