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Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-24 07:39:02
March 24 2013 07:20 GMT
#1181
Navi on Kiwikid stream!

Jk stream crash.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
March 24 2013 07:59 GMT
#1182
On March 24 2013 16:03 Seuss wrote:
If monkey is broken, how do I abuse the brokenness?


Red pot start. #1 on monkus.

Also, BT+LW+BC. Proceed to kill everyone in a team fight.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-24 09:01:47
March 24 2013 09:00 GMT
#1183
watching best riven NA is so fun, guy is entertaining as fk i rarely see people single-handedly carry games so hard as him (even pros)
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
March 24 2013 09:54 GMT
#1184
On March 24 2013 12:44 Eishi_Ki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2013 11:48 sung_moon wrote:
Can anybody pinpoint a certain time frame/month when LoL in Korea all of a sudden became the "BW" of the country?

Was looking at the game popularity rankings in Korea (specifically after HotS dropped), and LoL had an insanely overwhelming lead over everything else. I understand that in PC Bangs, koreans get all the champs free correct?

Oh and despite HotS coming out and jumping up 10 spots, BW was still played more. That one made me grin.


It came out in December 2011 and became huge that month, if not, in January. It was pretty ridiculous

Many people failed to realize how similar LOL and BW for PC Bangs in Korea. For BW you only need the PC Bangs to have copies of the game and countless of people can enjoy it with free accounts. While SC2 it reverses the formular, PC Bangs can install free copies of the game, but everybody has to pay $60 to play a game which is a big discouragement for alot of people.

Riot Korea, had done an awesome jobs of bring back the BW phenomenal with a Free to play game, and free accounts. Also when LOL first came out in Korea, if you play at PC Bangs, you get all champions for free. Thats just brilliant in term of marketing from Riot Korea.
Terran
DarKFoRcE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1215 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-24 10:39:15
March 24 2013 10:34 GMT
#1185
On March 24 2013 10:45 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2013 08:54 DarKFoRcE wrote:
I need a recommentation what top laners i should add to my pool. Right now im playing renekton singed rumble and elise. shen i play sometimes, but usually he is banned, and if he isnt, im not even that sure whether he is good for soloQ (would certainly play him for 5on5 ranked).
now i have been thinking of adding maybe another 1-3 champions. was thinking of trying kennen, nasus, nidalee, maybe jax?

what do you guys think?


We talking about solo q or ranked 5?
You have a very solid list for Top Laners already.
My recommendations are Nidalee (AD and AP), Akali, and Wukong.
Nid is fine for solo q and 5s but Akali and Wukong have some bad lanes for solo q usage but they are big assets in arranged plays.


Well, right now I dont have a team, so its only for soloQ, but in the end i want to find at least a semi serious team some time and then have at least a decent amount of champs that i need there already.

also lol @ americans saying KTB is not that good. not sure whether irony or arrogance.
Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/PinDarKFoRcE
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
March 24 2013 10:48 GMT
#1186
We're 'murica, no one is better than us.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Cubu
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1171 Posts
March 24 2013 10:49 GMT
#1187
On March 24 2013 18:54 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2013 12:44 Eishi_Ki wrote:
On March 24 2013 11:48 sung_moon wrote:
Can anybody pinpoint a certain time frame/month when LoL in Korea all of a sudden became the "BW" of the country?

Was looking at the game popularity rankings in Korea (specifically after HotS dropped), and LoL had an insanely overwhelming lead over everything else. I understand that in PC Bangs, koreans get all the champs free correct?

Oh and despite HotS coming out and jumping up 10 spots, BW was still played more. That one made me grin.


It came out in December 2011 and became huge that month, if not, in January. It was pretty ridiculous

Many people failed to realize how similar LOL and BW for PC Bangs in Korea. For BW you only need the PC Bangs to have copies of the game and countless of people can enjoy it with free accounts. While SC2 it reverses the formular, PC Bangs can install free copies of the game, but everybody has to pay $60 to play a game which is a big discouragement for alot of people.

Riot Korea, had done an awesome jobs of bring back the BW phenomenal with a Free to play game, and free accounts. Also when LOL first came out in Korea, if you play at PC Bangs, you get all champions for free. Thats just brilliant in term of marketing from Riot Korea.

yeah they still have that in korea. They really should do that for the other servers as well since it can't hurt them.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
March 24 2013 10:49 GMT
#1188
On March 24 2013 19:34 DarKFoRcE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2013 10:45 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 24 2013 08:54 DarKFoRcE wrote:
I need a recommentation what top laners i should add to my pool. Right now im playing renekton singed rumble and elise. shen i play sometimes, but usually he is banned, and if he isnt, im not even that sure whether he is good for soloQ (would certainly play him for 5on5 ranked).
now i have been thinking of adding maybe another 1-3 champions. was thinking of trying kennen, nasus, nidalee, maybe jax?

what do you guys think?


We talking about solo q or ranked 5?
You have a very solid list for Top Laners already.
My recommendations are Nidalee (AD and AP), Akali, and Wukong.
Nid is fine for solo q and 5s but Akali and Wukong have some bad lanes for solo q usage but they are big assets in arranged plays.


Well, right now I dont have a team, so its only for soloQ, but in the end i want to find at least a semi serious team some time and then have at least a decent amount of champs that i need there already.

also lol @ americans saying KTB is not that good. not sure whether irony or arrogance.

I would suggest Nidalee, and may be Zed/Kat(Assasin top lane) since these champ will really help if you want to join a team. These champs have difference playstyle compare to Singed/Elise/Rumble/Ren, ,that would varies your play style which help in general.

Terran
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 24 2013 10:54 GMT
#1189
On March 24 2013 19:49 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2013 19:34 DarKFoRcE wrote:
On March 24 2013 10:45 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 24 2013 08:54 DarKFoRcE wrote:
I need a recommentation what top laners i should add to my pool. Right now im playing renekton singed rumble and elise. shen i play sometimes, but usually he is banned, and if he isnt, im not even that sure whether he is good for soloQ (would certainly play him for 5on5 ranked).
now i have been thinking of adding maybe another 1-3 champions. was thinking of trying kennen, nasus, nidalee, maybe jax?

what do you guys think?


We talking about solo q or ranked 5?
You have a very solid list for Top Laners already.
My recommendations are Nidalee (AD and AP), Akali, and Wukong.
Nid is fine for solo q and 5s but Akali and Wukong have some bad lanes for solo q usage but they are big assets in arranged plays.


Well, right now I dont have a team, so its only for soloQ, but in the end i want to find at least a semi serious team some time and then have at least a decent amount of champs that i need there already.

also lol @ americans saying KTB is not that good. not sure whether irony or arrogance.

I would suggest Nidalee, and may be Zed/Kat(Assasin top lane) since these champ will really help if you want to join a team. These champs have difference playstyle compare to Singed/Elise/Rumble/Ren, ,that would varies your play style which help in general.



There are champions like Zed and Kha'zix which I think are must-learn champs but they excel far more in Mid than Top (imoimo)
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Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
March 24 2013 11:17 GMT
#1190
On March 24 2013 19:49 Cubu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2013 18:54 Caphe wrote:
On March 24 2013 12:44 Eishi_Ki wrote:
On March 24 2013 11:48 sung_moon wrote:
Can anybody pinpoint a certain time frame/month when LoL in Korea all of a sudden became the "BW" of the country?

Was looking at the game popularity rankings in Korea (specifically after HotS dropped), and LoL had an insanely overwhelming lead over everything else. I understand that in PC Bangs, koreans get all the champs free correct?

Oh and despite HotS coming out and jumping up 10 spots, BW was still played more. That one made me grin.


It came out in December 2011 and became huge that month, if not, in January. It was pretty ridiculous

Many people failed to realize how similar LOL and BW for PC Bangs in Korea. For BW you only need the PC Bangs to have copies of the game and countless of people can enjoy it with free accounts. While SC2 it reverses the formular, PC Bangs can install free copies of the game, but everybody has to pay $60 to play a game which is a big discouragement for alot of people.

Riot Korea, had done an awesome jobs of bring back the BW phenomenal with a Free to play game, and free accounts. Also when LOL first came out in Korea, if you play at PC Bangs, you get all champions for free. Thats just brilliant in term of marketing from Riot Korea.

yeah they still have that in korea. They really should do that for the other servers as well since it can't hurt them.

You also get a 20% IP boost playing from PC Bang, encouraging people to go there to play. Ic what you did there Riot KR, smart, very smart
washed
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
March 24 2013 11:19 GMT
#1191
so whats wrong with rengar nowadays he got buffed quite abit in last patch yet nobody plays him, i just saw bestriven NA dominated by rengar without any jungle interference, i would say its quite accomplishment considering he dumps on most tops even dyrius cried like little kid that riven is OP when he lost lane to him
adriftt
Profile Joined March 2012
335 Posts
March 24 2013 12:15 GMT
#1192
for anyone that doesn't know WE is about to play iG in TPL. its the TSM vs CLG of china except these teams are actually top tier

http://www.fengyunzhibo.com/group/20100-189rr94n.htm chinese stream
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-24 13:04:33
March 24 2013 13:02 GMT
#1193
On March 24 2013 19:54 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2013 19:49 Caphe wrote:
On March 24 2013 19:34 DarKFoRcE wrote:
On March 24 2013 10:45 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 24 2013 08:54 DarKFoRcE wrote:
I need a recommentation what top laners i should add to my pool. Right now im playing renekton singed rumble and elise. shen i play sometimes, but usually he is banned, and if he isnt, im not even that sure whether he is good for soloQ (would certainly play him for 5on5 ranked).
now i have been thinking of adding maybe another 1-3 champions. was thinking of trying kennen, nasus, nidalee, maybe jax?

what do you guys think?


We talking about solo q or ranked 5?
You have a very solid list for Top Laners already.
My recommendations are Nidalee (AD and AP), Akali, and Wukong.
Nid is fine for solo q and 5s but Akali and Wukong have some bad lanes for solo q usage but they are big assets in arranged plays.


Well, right now I dont have a team, so its only for soloQ, but in the end i want to find at least a semi serious team some time and then have at least a decent amount of champs that i need there already.

also lol @ americans saying KTB is not that good. not sure whether irony or arrogance.

I would suggest Nidalee, and may be Zed/Kat(Assasin top lane) since these champ will really help if you want to join a team. These champs have difference playstyle compare to Singed/Elise/Rumble/Ren, ,that would varies your play style which help in general.



There are champions like Zed and Kha'zix which I think are must-learn champs but they excel far more in Mid than Top (imoimo)

Yep, they are favour as mid, but as lane switch are the norm right now. Learning one of those will add depth into your team's play. That is if DarkForce wants to turn pro in LOL. If not, well just play anything he likes .

On March 24 2013 21:15 adriftt wrote:
for anyone that doesn't know WE is about to play iG in TPL. its the TSM vs CLG of china except these teams are actually top tier

http://www.fengyunzhibo.com/group/20100-189rr94n.htm chinese stream

How dare you compare WE vs iG to TSM vs CLG, rofl, Chinese teams are light years ahead of NA teams. Compare them to Gambit vs Fnatic would be more suitable.
Terran
DarKFoRcE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1215 Posts
March 24 2013 13:05 GMT
#1194
On March 24 2013 22:02 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2013 19:54 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 24 2013 19:49 Caphe wrote:
On March 24 2013 19:34 DarKFoRcE wrote:
On March 24 2013 10:45 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 24 2013 08:54 DarKFoRcE wrote:
I need a recommentation what top laners i should add to my pool. Right now im playing renekton singed rumble and elise. shen i play sometimes, but usually he is banned, and if he isnt, im not even that sure whether he is good for soloQ (would certainly play him for 5on5 ranked).
now i have been thinking of adding maybe another 1-3 champions. was thinking of trying kennen, nasus, nidalee, maybe jax?

what do you guys think?


We talking about solo q or ranked 5?
You have a very solid list for Top Laners already.
My recommendations are Nidalee (AD and AP), Akali, and Wukong.
Nid is fine for solo q and 5s but Akali and Wukong have some bad lanes for solo q usage but they are big assets in arranged plays.


Well, right now I dont have a team, so its only for soloQ, but in the end i want to find at least a semi serious team some time and then have at least a decent amount of champs that i need there already.

also lol @ americans saying KTB is not that good. not sure whether irony or arrogance.

I would suggest Nidalee, and may be Zed/Kat(Assasin top lane) since these champ will really help if you want to join a team. These champs have difference playstyle compare to Singed/Elise/Rumble/Ren, ,that would varies your play style which help in general.



There are champions like Zed and Kha'zix which I think are must-learn champs but they excel far more in Mid than Top (imoimo)

Yep, they are favour as mid, but as lane switch are the norm right now. Learning one of those will add depth into your team's play. That is if DarkForce wants to turn pro in LOL. If not, well just play anything he likes .

I dont know about turning pro. But even if not, im a very competetive person, so I dont want to just fuck around. Zed seems to have such a weak lanephase, thats why I never really played him, but I guess i should start learning him =)
Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/PinDarKFoRcE
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-24 13:48:07
March 24 2013 13:47 GMT
#1195
On March 24 2013 19:54 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2013 19:49 Caphe wrote:
On March 24 2013 19:34 DarKFoRcE wrote:
On March 24 2013 10:45 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 24 2013 08:54 DarKFoRcE wrote:
I need a recommentation what top laners i should add to my pool. Right now im playing renekton singed rumble and elise. shen i play sometimes, but usually he is banned, and if he isnt, im not even that sure whether he is good for soloQ (would certainly play him for 5on5 ranked).
now i have been thinking of adding maybe another 1-3 champions. was thinking of trying kennen, nasus, nidalee, maybe jax?

what do you guys think?


We talking about solo q or ranked 5?
You have a very solid list for Top Laners already.
My recommendations are Nidalee (AD and AP), Akali, and Wukong.
Nid is fine for solo q and 5s but Akali and Wukong have some bad lanes for solo q usage but they are big assets in arranged plays.


Well, right now I dont have a team, so its only for soloQ, but in the end i want to find at least a semi serious team some time and then have at least a decent amount of champs that i need there already.

also lol @ americans saying KTB is not that good. not sure whether irony or arrogance.

I would suggest Nidalee, and may be Zed/Kat(Assasin top lane) since these champ will really help if you want to join a team. These champs have difference playstyle compare to Singed/Elise/Rumble/Ren, ,that would varies your play style which help in general.



There are champions like Zed and Kha'zix which I think are must-learn champs but they excel far more in Mid than Top (imoimo)


I have 2 interesting anectodes about exactly those two champs: the last two really scary top lane matchups where one time against kha and one time against zed. I don't recall what i played in both matches but i know one time i had kayle and the other one was also a strong lategame champ with either sustained damage or high amount of tankyness or both.

so the players I faced where very good. probably better than me at laneing. both of them managed to abuse the constant threat of a very strong all-in, solid warding and risk management in lane (both palyers knew when they had to freeze, when to push and when they had a fighting advantage), both players outfarmed me because at my turret they where able to clear waves fast and start to poke me while i farmed back. When I got a slight fighting advantage they where able to sit at their turret and lasthit virtually anything with their very high base damage while being a huge threat with their ults so i couldnt just poke them constantly.

so in both games I lost the lane so to speak because they where both ahead in CS. But the lane played out very passive and farm dependand because as soon as I squeezed in some dps here and there they weren't able to play that aggressive and had to just clear waves. Now the problem was that they couldnt really roam much despite being ahead. They could maybe gank here or there but they would not keep their CS advantage since top lane is so far away from anything.

Both games ended with my team winning, because we focus fire that melee assassin in lategame teamfights who had substantial farm but didn't abuse his midgame peak very well besides that.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-24 13:51:32
March 24 2013 13:50 GMT
#1196
On March 24 2013 22:02 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2013 21:15 adriftt wrote:
for anyone that doesn't know WE is about to play iG in TPL. its the TSM vs CLG of china except these teams are actually top tier

http://www.fengyunzhibo.com/group/20100-189rr94n.htm chinese stream

How dare you compare WE vs iG to TSM vs CLG, rofl, Chinese teams are light years ahead of NA teams. Compare them to Gambit vs Fnatic would be more suitable.

He even specified "except these teams are actually top tier" in his post. He was referring to their regional popularities, not their skill level. No need to get so offended.
samthesaluki
Profile Joined November 2010
914 Posts
March 24 2013 13:58 GMT
#1197
click if they are farming at your tower and not push then roam there are not doing it right kha/zed real easy to roam on
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
March 24 2013 14:20 GMT
#1198
On March 24 2013 22:58 samthesaluki wrote:
click if they are farming at your tower and not push then roam there are not doing it right kha/zed real easy to roam on


the discussion was about top lane kha/zed. I merely backed up neo's statement about them being stronger in midlane with 2 top lane experiences, where those two certainly had far less efficient possibilities to roam than they would have had mid. top lane is essentially a bad lane for assassins because its the most isolated lane and the hardest to make use of the midgame spike, while bruisers and pushers have a more solid (less situational and easyer to execute) lategame teamfight role. assassins have to establish a strong midgame where they keep certain targets weak with their ganks while getting more and more fed and making aggressive counterplays for their opponents very risky by there mere presence on all lanes and the jungle. top lane is just not that suited for this style of play. in fact its the least suited lane. even botlane and jungle are better for assassins in a general sense.

when you see top lane assassins do very well then its often in ranked 5's where you have a coordinated setup and execution (like kha top + shen jungle for example which allows kha to be very usefulll in lategame fights)
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
samthesaluki
Profile Joined November 2010
914 Posts
March 24 2013 14:22 GMT
#1199
iv seen plenty of kha and zed do well in soloq they might do better mid but are def top picks for toplane also.
LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
March 24 2013 16:03 GMT
#1200
Man, I really want to play some LoL right now but I'm in Japan for the next month. =(

Watching all these LCS games is causin' me to get the itch.
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