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On March 21 2013 23:14 Chrispy wrote:Is it over?  What kind of series ends at 1-1.
Group states that are BO2?
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Bo2 Group stages (3 points for 2-0, 1 point each for 1-1, no points for 0-2)
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i wish ad assassins had equivalent of abyssal sceptre, MoM is kinda bad and doesnt give much res and scimitar costs like 3.7k gold lol
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Pootie too good!4331 Posts
On March 21 2013 03:26 zulu_nation8 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 03:20 Mondeezy wrote:
Also, I agree that a team needs more than individual yoloQ skill to succeed in High level competition. While I wouldn't go so far as to say "Yea u don't know jack about the game if you don't play r5s", I would definitely say there is a large element of understanding team play and chemistry that can only be achieved playing as a team. For example, one of my buddies that I run bot lane with and I completely understand how we play and are able to trust each other when deciding to all in or farm or whatever. We move as a team when we go around the map - that's not something you can pick up playing individually.
It takes a lot of understanding of the team and it's players to be able to get everyone in the same mindset compared to one person running off to farm and the other 4 grouping. It's something I don't see a lot of teams doing in NA, and while mistakes happen, they shouldn't be occurring that often in high level play. Teams should move and coordinate as one, not in groups. the truth is, compared to asians, no one besides gambit knows how to play the game. EU is better than NA, but then most LCS teams would 9-1 any amateur team. Most amateur teams are comprised of the best solo queue players with 5s experience, then we have the ones who are high elo but don't play 5s, then we have the mid elo grinders, then low elo, etc. Then we have the silver elo TL general thread poster who's adamantly defending his extensive knowledge of competitive LoL. I started slow by saying, if you don't even play ranked 5s then you don't understand a lot of what is going on, but apparently that's too harsh too. Thanks for bestowing on me the amazing insight that pro teams don't know how to deduct wards. I will make sure the secret stays safe.
Psshhh. I haven't played LoL for 5 and a half months. I haven't watched a game of LoL for 5 and a half months. I read the live reports and recaps. My max ELO was 1300. I TOTALLY would be a kick ass coach.
More seriously, I think there are probably a FEW rare cases where a lower level player can analyze well enough to be a coach. However, for a game like LoL (or any esport really), you need to play the game at a high level to be able to analyze well because of the nature of constantly evolving gameplay/patches. Soccer coach analogies don't work as well because the game has been around forever and has largely been figured out.
That and FIFA doesn't change how the game is played once a month.
On March 21 2013 03:48 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 03:43 Serelitz wrote:
oh I 100% agree, if I came off as implying everything gets figured out immediately after a patch that's obviously my bad. Especially after changes as big as S3 changes. All I meant was champions almost never randomly become popular without any changes whatsoever, especially not straight up bad champs. Yes, but a lot of times those changes are things that favor a specific playstyle or teamcomp indirectly helping the hero, not something that directly affects the hero's own power/itemization. Example of this is MF being a near-ubiquitous AD pick in S3 despite being almost never seen in S2.
Not to be nitpicky because I pretty much agree with you, but didn't MF get a slight buff with the animation of her ult?
On March 21 2013 09:43 Terranasaur wrote:
Random thought:
With the release of Blizz Dota, do we think/has anyone heard anything about other franchises branching out into the moba space?
Asking because I was playing league late last night, and I had a dream about a Super Smash Brothers moba and, needless to say, it was pretty sick. Pokemon could also make an AMAZING moba and is already kind of balanced around everyone having 4 skills. I know that pretty much every member of this forum would totes buy a pokemon moba. Alakazam Mid. Scyther Jungle. Dragonite Top. Blastoise / Jigglypuff bot. Bam.
Mewtwo mid (probably gonna get nerfed). Machamp top. Pidgeot jungle (dat fly gank). Exeggutor / Electabuzz bot. Exeggutor will throw eggs as an adc I guess and Electabuzz is def an all in type of support. Like a Leona.
Ditto would be funny as hell.
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On March 22 2013 00:05 JonGalt wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 03:26 zulu_nation8 wrote:On March 21 2013 03:20 Mondeezy wrote:
Also, I agree that a team needs more than individual yoloQ skill to succeed in High level competition. While I wouldn't go so far as to say "Yea u don't know jack about the game if you don't play r5s", I would definitely say there is a large element of understanding team play and chemistry that can only be achieved playing as a team. For example, one of my buddies that I run bot lane with and I completely understand how we play and are able to trust each other when deciding to all in or farm or whatever. We move as a team when we go around the map - that's not something you can pick up playing individually.
It takes a lot of understanding of the team and it's players to be able to get everyone in the same mindset compared to one person running off to farm and the other 4 grouping. It's something I don't see a lot of teams doing in NA, and while mistakes happen, they shouldn't be occurring that often in high level play. Teams should move and coordinate as one, not in groups. the truth is, compared to asians, no one besides gambit knows how to play the game. EU is better than NA, but then most LCS teams would 9-1 any amateur team. Most amateur teams are comprised of the best solo queue players with 5s experience, then we have the ones who are high elo but don't play 5s, then we have the mid elo grinders, then low elo, etc. Then we have the silver elo TL general thread poster who's adamantly defending his extensive knowledge of competitive LoL. I started slow by saying, if you don't even play ranked 5s then you don't understand a lot of what is going on, but apparently that's too harsh too. Thanks for bestowing on me the amazing insight that pro teams don't know how to deduct wards. I will make sure the secret stays safe. Psshhh. I haven't played LoL for 5 and a half months. I haven't watched a game of LoL for 5 and a half months. I read the live reports and recaps. My max ELO was 1300. I TOTALLY would be a kick ass coach. More seriously, I think there are probably a FEW rare cases where a lower level player can analyze well enough to be a coach. However, for a game like LoL (or any esport really), you need to play the game at a high level to be able to analyze well because of the nature of constantly evolving gameplay/patches. Soccer coach analogies don't work as well because the game has been around forever and has largely been figured out. That and FIFA doesn't change how the game is played once a month. Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 03:48 TheYango wrote:On March 21 2013 03:43 Serelitz wrote:
oh I 100% agree, if I came off as implying everything gets figured out immediately after a patch that's obviously my bad. Especially after changes as big as S3 changes. All I meant was champions almost never randomly become popular without any changes whatsoever, especially not straight up bad champs. Yes, but a lot of times those changes are things that favor a specific playstyle or teamcomp indirectly helping the hero, not something that directly affects the hero's own power/itemization. Example of this is MF being a near-ubiquitous AD pick in S3 despite being almost never seen in S2. Not to be nitpicky because I pretty much agree with you, but didn't MF get a slight buff with the animation of her ult? Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 09:43 Terranasaur wrote:
Random thought:
With the release of Blizz Dota, do we think/has anyone heard anything about other franchises branching out into the moba space?
Asking because I was playing league late last night, and I had a dream about a Super Smash Brothers moba and, needless to say, it was pretty sick. Pokemon could also make an AMAZING moba and is already kind of balanced around everyone having 4 skills. I know that pretty much every member of this forum would totes buy a pokemon moba. Alakazam Mid. Scyther Jungle. Dragonite Top. Blastoise / Jigglypuff bot. Bam. Mewtwo mid (probably gonna get nerfed). Machamp top. Pidgeot jungle (dat fly gank). Exeggutor / Electabuzz bot. Exeggutor will throw eggs as an adc I guess and Electabuzz is def an all in type of support. Like a Leona. Ditto would be funny as hell.
Why use Ditto when smeargle and mew do everything it does but better
(except breed)
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On March 22 2013 00:16 thenexusp wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 00:05 JonGalt wrote:On March 21 2013 03:26 zulu_nation8 wrote:On March 21 2013 03:20 Mondeezy wrote:
Also, I agree that a team needs more than individual yoloQ skill to succeed in High level competition. While I wouldn't go so far as to say "Yea u don't know jack about the game if you don't play r5s", I would definitely say there is a large element of understanding team play and chemistry that can only be achieved playing as a team. For example, one of my buddies that I run bot lane with and I completely understand how we play and are able to trust each other when deciding to all in or farm or whatever. We move as a team when we go around the map - that's not something you can pick up playing individually.
It takes a lot of understanding of the team and it's players to be able to get everyone in the same mindset compared to one person running off to farm and the other 4 grouping. It's something I don't see a lot of teams doing in NA, and while mistakes happen, they shouldn't be occurring that often in high level play. Teams should move and coordinate as one, not in groups. the truth is, compared to asians, no one besides gambit knows how to play the game. EU is better than NA, but then most LCS teams would 9-1 any amateur team. Most amateur teams are comprised of the best solo queue players with 5s experience, then we have the ones who are high elo but don't play 5s, then we have the mid elo grinders, then low elo, etc. Then we have the silver elo TL general thread poster who's adamantly defending his extensive knowledge of competitive LoL. I started slow by saying, if you don't even play ranked 5s then you don't understand a lot of what is going on, but apparently that's too harsh too. Thanks for bestowing on me the amazing insight that pro teams don't know how to deduct wards. I will make sure the secret stays safe. Psshhh. I haven't played LoL for 5 and a half months. I haven't watched a game of LoL for 5 and a half months. I read the live reports and recaps. My max ELO was 1300. I TOTALLY would be a kick ass coach. More seriously, I think there are probably a FEW rare cases where a lower level player can analyze well enough to be a coach. However, for a game like LoL (or any esport really), you need to play the game at a high level to be able to analyze well because of the nature of constantly evolving gameplay/patches. Soccer coach analogies don't work as well because the game has been around forever and has largely been figured out. That and FIFA doesn't change how the game is played once a month. On March 21 2013 03:48 TheYango wrote:On March 21 2013 03:43 Serelitz wrote:
oh I 100% agree, if I came off as implying everything gets figured out immediately after a patch that's obviously my bad. Especially after changes as big as S3 changes. All I meant was champions almost never randomly become popular without any changes whatsoever, especially not straight up bad champs. Yes, but a lot of times those changes are things that favor a specific playstyle or teamcomp indirectly helping the hero, not something that directly affects the hero's own power/itemization. Example of this is MF being a near-ubiquitous AD pick in S3 despite being almost never seen in S2. Not to be nitpicky because I pretty much agree with you, but didn't MF get a slight buff with the animation of her ult? On March 21 2013 09:43 Terranasaur wrote:
Random thought:
With the release of Blizz Dota, do we think/has anyone heard anything about other franchises branching out into the moba space?
Asking because I was playing league late last night, and I had a dream about a Super Smash Brothers moba and, needless to say, it was pretty sick. Pokemon could also make an AMAZING moba and is already kind of balanced around everyone having 4 skills. I know that pretty much every member of this forum would totes buy a pokemon moba. Alakazam Mid. Scyther Jungle. Dragonite Top. Blastoise / Jigglypuff bot. Bam. Mewtwo mid (probably gonna get nerfed). Machamp top. Pidgeot jungle (dat fly gank). Exeggutor / Electabuzz bot. Exeggutor will throw eggs as an adc I guess and Electabuzz is def an all in type of support. Like a Leona. Ditto would be funny as hell. Why use Ditto when smeargle and mew do everything it does but better (except breed)
Because Ditto = instant mirror matchup GG.
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The Pokemon moba better be only original 150(151) 
But seriously... that would be awesome.
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On March 22 2013 00:16 thenexusp wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 00:05 JonGalt wrote:On March 21 2013 03:26 zulu_nation8 wrote:On March 21 2013 03:20 Mondeezy wrote:
Also, I agree that a team needs more than individual yoloQ skill to succeed in High level competition. While I wouldn't go so far as to say "Yea u don't know jack about the game if you don't play r5s", I would definitely say there is a large element of understanding team play and chemistry that can only be achieved playing as a team. For example, one of my buddies that I run bot lane with and I completely understand how we play and are able to trust each other when deciding to all in or farm or whatever. We move as a team when we go around the map - that's not something you can pick up playing individually.
It takes a lot of understanding of the team and it's players to be able to get everyone in the same mindset compared to one person running off to farm and the other 4 grouping. It's something I don't see a lot of teams doing in NA, and while mistakes happen, they shouldn't be occurring that often in high level play. Teams should move and coordinate as one, not in groups. the truth is, compared to asians, no one besides gambit knows how to play the game. EU is better than NA, but then most LCS teams would 9-1 any amateur team. Most amateur teams are comprised of the best solo queue players with 5s experience, then we have the ones who are high elo but don't play 5s, then we have the mid elo grinders, then low elo, etc. Then we have the silver elo TL general thread poster who's adamantly defending his extensive knowledge of competitive LoL. I started slow by saying, if you don't even play ranked 5s then you don't understand a lot of what is going on, but apparently that's too harsh too. Thanks for bestowing on me the amazing insight that pro teams don't know how to deduct wards. I will make sure the secret stays safe. Psshhh. I haven't played LoL for 5 and a half months. I haven't watched a game of LoL for 5 and a half months. I read the live reports and recaps. My max ELO was 1300. I TOTALLY would be a kick ass coach. More seriously, I think there are probably a FEW rare cases where a lower level player can analyze well enough to be a coach. However, for a game like LoL (or any esport really), you need to play the game at a high level to be able to analyze well because of the nature of constantly evolving gameplay/patches. Soccer coach analogies don't work as well because the game has been around forever and has largely been figured out. That and FIFA doesn't change how the game is played once a month. On March 21 2013 03:48 TheYango wrote:On March 21 2013 03:43 Serelitz wrote:
oh I 100% agree, if I came off as implying everything gets figured out immediately after a patch that's obviously my bad. Especially after changes as big as S3 changes. All I meant was champions almost never randomly become popular without any changes whatsoever, especially not straight up bad champs. Yes, but a lot of times those changes are things that favor a specific playstyle or teamcomp indirectly helping the hero, not something that directly affects the hero's own power/itemization. Example of this is MF being a near-ubiquitous AD pick in S3 despite being almost never seen in S2. Not to be nitpicky because I pretty much agree with you, but didn't MF get a slight buff with the animation of her ult? On March 21 2013 09:43 Terranasaur wrote:
Random thought:
With the release of Blizz Dota, do we think/has anyone heard anything about other franchises branching out into the moba space?
Asking because I was playing league late last night, and I had a dream about a Super Smash Brothers moba and, needless to say, it was pretty sick. Pokemon could also make an AMAZING moba and is already kind of balanced around everyone having 4 skills. I know that pretty much every member of this forum would totes buy a pokemon moba. Alakazam Mid. Scyther Jungle. Dragonite Top. Blastoise / Jigglypuff bot. Bam. Mewtwo mid (probably gonna get nerfed). Machamp top. Pidgeot jungle (dat fly gank). Exeggutor / Electabuzz bot. Exeggutor will throw eggs as an adc I guess and Electabuzz is def an all in type of support. Like a Leona. Ditto would be funny as hell. Why use Ditto when smeargle and mew do everything it does but better (except breed)
Smeargle has impossibly low base stats, so you can't do anything until you get level 6, and mew is permaban.
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On March 22 2013 00:05 JonGalt wrote:
Not to be nitpicky because I pretty much agree with you, but didn't MF get a slight buff with the animation of her ult?
They reduced the wind-up time by a pretty drastic amount, made a noticeable difference. Still, she probably would have risen in popularity in Season 3 anyway *cough* BC *cough*
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Isn't Smeargle just Rubick?
And MF's ult was changed from magical to physical too. Fuck BC, 'cause without that change it'd do squat for you.
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I would take abra. Passive: teleport to a random location on the map whenever enemy pokemon is within sight.
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On March 22 2013 00:19 sylverfyre wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 00:16 thenexusp wrote:On March 22 2013 00:05 JonGalt wrote:On March 21 2013 03:26 zulu_nation8 wrote:On March 21 2013 03:20 Mondeezy wrote:
Also, I agree that a team needs more than individual yoloQ skill to succeed in High level competition. While I wouldn't go so far as to say "Yea u don't know jack about the game if you don't play r5s", I would definitely say there is a large element of understanding team play and chemistry that can only be achieved playing as a team. For example, one of my buddies that I run bot lane with and I completely understand how we play and are able to trust each other when deciding to all in or farm or whatever. We move as a team when we go around the map - that's not something you can pick up playing individually.
It takes a lot of understanding of the team and it's players to be able to get everyone in the same mindset compared to one person running off to farm and the other 4 grouping. It's something I don't see a lot of teams doing in NA, and while mistakes happen, they shouldn't be occurring that often in high level play. Teams should move and coordinate as one, not in groups. the truth is, compared to asians, no one besides gambit knows how to play the game. EU is better than NA, but then most LCS teams would 9-1 any amateur team. Most amateur teams are comprised of the best solo queue players with 5s experience, then we have the ones who are high elo but don't play 5s, then we have the mid elo grinders, then low elo, etc. Then we have the silver elo TL general thread poster who's adamantly defending his extensive knowledge of competitive LoL. I started slow by saying, if you don't even play ranked 5s then you don't understand a lot of what is going on, but apparently that's too harsh too. Thanks for bestowing on me the amazing insight that pro teams don't know how to deduct wards. I will make sure the secret stays safe. Psshhh. I haven't played LoL for 5 and a half months. I haven't watched a game of LoL for 5 and a half months. I read the live reports and recaps. My max ELO was 1300. I TOTALLY would be a kick ass coach. More seriously, I think there are probably a FEW rare cases where a lower level player can analyze well enough to be a coach. However, for a game like LoL (or any esport really), you need to play the game at a high level to be able to analyze well because of the nature of constantly evolving gameplay/patches. Soccer coach analogies don't work as well because the game has been around forever and has largely been figured out. That and FIFA doesn't change how the game is played once a month. On March 21 2013 03:48 TheYango wrote:On March 21 2013 03:43 Serelitz wrote:
oh I 100% agree, if I came off as implying everything gets figured out immediately after a patch that's obviously my bad. Especially after changes as big as S3 changes. All I meant was champions almost never randomly become popular without any changes whatsoever, especially not straight up bad champs. Yes, but a lot of times those changes are things that favor a specific playstyle or teamcomp indirectly helping the hero, not something that directly affects the hero's own power/itemization. Example of this is MF being a near-ubiquitous AD pick in S3 despite being almost never seen in S2. Not to be nitpicky because I pretty much agree with you, but didn't MF get a slight buff with the animation of her ult? On March 21 2013 09:43 Terranasaur wrote:
Random thought:
With the release of Blizz Dota, do we think/has anyone heard anything about other franchises branching out into the moba space?
Asking because I was playing league late last night, and I had a dream about a Super Smash Brothers moba and, needless to say, it was pretty sick. Pokemon could also make an AMAZING moba and is already kind of balanced around everyone having 4 skills. I know that pretty much every member of this forum would totes buy a pokemon moba. Alakazam Mid. Scyther Jungle. Dragonite Top. Blastoise / Jigglypuff bot. Bam. Mewtwo mid (probably gonna get nerfed). Machamp top. Pidgeot jungle (dat fly gank). Exeggutor / Electabuzz bot. Exeggutor will throw eggs as an adc I guess and Electabuzz is def an all in type of support. Like a Leona. Ditto would be funny as hell. Why use Ditto when smeargle and mew do everything it does but better (except breed) Smeargle has impossibly low base stats, so you can't do anything until you get level 6, and mew is permaban.
Smeargle's base stats are better than ditto's.
And you are allowed to sketch Transform.
Of course, everyone will complain the game is too coinflippy once people start pulling out the metronome spam clefairys
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Play Eevee, pick one of her 38 evolutions.
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Alas poor Viktor, how downplayed you are when it comes to evolution.
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Is there a high elo Warwick main? I've been planning on maining him when jungle/top are open and just looking for additional resources (like vods or a stream).
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salamence bot for dat intimidate passive
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On March 22 2013 00:38 mordek wrote:
Is there a high elo Warwick main? I've been planning on maining him when jungle/top are open and just looking for additional resources (like vods or a stream).
Gamerslegends
He played a lot in S2, still plays a decent amount S3. He's Diamond on NA, Challenger on EU.
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Play Tyrannitar, he's like Rammus but with more damage and less speed.
Sandstorm passive is OP too.
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On March 22 2013 00:49 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 00:38 mordek wrote:
Is there a high elo Warwick main? I've been planning on maining him when jungle/top are open and just looking for additional resources (like vods or a stream). Gamerslegends He played a lot in S2, still plays a decent amount S3. He's Diamond on NA, Challenger on EU.
I remember seeing that name a while back, forgot about him. It looks like he hasn't played WW in like a month though
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