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On March 19 2013 08:04 Zariel wrote:
Let's put Jarvan on free week then proceed to nerf him right after!
Anyway, as a Xin jungler most of the timer, J4 being free was very good for me as it allowed me to experience jungling in a different perspective. Xin is very stable early game but J4 just takes over once you hit past level 11 or so, the damage output is just insane.
With BotRK, I was playing ADC last night, I had 2.8k and about to recall to buy it in 1 go, swear to god it costed less than 3k last time I checked, thought I was tripping hard.
I thought it costed 2900 or so?
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Happy about J4 and Taric nerfs, had one if not both of those champs in almost every game I played last week.
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On March 19 2013 08:10 Mondeezy wrote:
Happy about J4 and Taric nerfs, had one if not both of those champs in almost every game I played last week.
I'm hoping that maybe Taric will stop being in 55% of all ranked games. It's about time we got some more variety bot lane. Even if they're overnerfs, I'd rather have them than what we have right now.
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On March 19 2013 08:10 KissBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 08:04 Zariel wrote:
Let's put Jarvan on free week then proceed to nerf him right after!
Anyway, as a Xin jungler most of the timer, J4 being free was very good for me as it allowed me to experience jungling in a different perspective. Xin is very stable early game but J4 just takes over once you hit past level 11 or so, the damage output is just insane.
With BotRK, I was playing ADC last night, I had 2.8k and about to recall to buy it in 1 go, swear to god it costed less than 3k last time I checked, thought I was tripping hard. I thought it costed 2900 or so?
It was 2850 before the hotfix, iirc.
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On March 19 2013 08:25 Cheap0 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 08:10 Mondeezy wrote:
Happy about J4 and Taric nerfs, had one if not both of those champs in almost every game I played last week. I'm hoping that maybe Taric will stop being in 55% of all ranked games. It's about time we got some more variety bot lane. Even if they're overnerfs, I'd rather have them than what we have right now.
honestly, taric nerfs probably won't affect popularity unless he becomes REALLY bad, it's a simple fact that he's flat out the easiest support to play.
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On March 19 2013 08:43 barbsq wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 08:25 Cheap0 wrote:On March 19 2013 08:10 Mondeezy wrote:
Happy about J4 and Taric nerfs, had one if not both of those champs in almost every game I played last week. I'm hoping that maybe Taric will stop being in 55% of all ranked games. It's about time we got some more variety bot lane. Even if they're overnerfs, I'd rather have them than what we have right now. honestly, taric nerfs probably won't affect popularity unless he becomes REALLY bad, it's a simple fact that he's flat out the easiest support to play.
I'd say Soraka is still easier.
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On March 19 2013 08:25 Cheap0 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 08:10 Mondeezy wrote:
Happy about J4 and Taric nerfs, had one if not both of those champs in almost every game I played last week. I'm hoping that maybe Taric will stop being in 55% of all ranked games. It's about time we got some more variety bot lane. Even if they're overnerfs, I'd rather have them than what we have right now.
Play rate is whatever, doesn't mean jack squat. It's not like taric was toxic in any play. He's just stupid easy to play. You either ewr combo, or you just heal, such a binary champ to play. Nerfs to taric but not thresh, lewl riotlogic
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On March 19 2013 08:34 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 08:10 KissBlade wrote:On March 19 2013 08:04 Zariel wrote:
Let's put Jarvan on free week then proceed to nerf him right after!
Anyway, as a Xin jungler most of the timer, J4 being free was very good for me as it allowed me to experience jungling in a different perspective. Xin is very stable early game but J4 just takes over once you hit past level 11 or so, the damage output is just insane.
With BotRK, I was playing ADC last night, I had 2.8k and about to recall to buy it in 1 go, swear to god it costed less than 3k last time I checked, thought I was tripping hard. I thought it costed 2900 or so? It was 2850 before the hotfix, iirc.
Combine cost went from 650 to 1000
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On March 19 2013 08:48 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 08:25 Cheap0 wrote:On March 19 2013 08:10 Mondeezy wrote:
Happy about J4 and Taric nerfs, had one if not both of those champs in almost every game I played last week. I'm hoping that maybe Taric will stop being in 55% of all ranked games. It's about time we got some more variety bot lane. Even if they're overnerfs, I'd rather have them than what we have right now. Play rate is whatever, doesn't mean jack squat. It's not like taric was toxic in any play. He's just stupid easy to play. You either ewr combo, or you just heal, such a binary champ to play. Nerfs to taric but not thresh, lewl riotlogic
I thought it was ERW.
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I welcome the J4 and Taric nerfs. Not because it was necessary, but because I hate facing them.
All is well.
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On March 19 2013 08:46 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 08:43 barbsq wrote:On March 19 2013 08:25 Cheap0 wrote:On March 19 2013 08:10 Mondeezy wrote:
Happy about J4 and Taric nerfs, had one if not both of those champs in almost every game I played last week. I'm hoping that maybe Taric will stop being in 55% of all ranked games. It's about time we got some more variety bot lane. Even if they're overnerfs, I'd rather have them than what we have right now. honestly, taric nerfs probably won't affect popularity unless he becomes REALLY bad, it's a simple fact that he's flat out the easiest support to play. I'd say Soraka is still easier.
soraka kinda sucks in a period of lol that is dive heavy.
it's also very difficult for her to win lane. she can go even at best, which is kinda iffy because the later stages of the game aren't that much better for her.
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On March 19 2013 07:38 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 07:30 HolyToss1911 wrote:
How do people deal with Kha mid? I usually go Diana against him but it still feels like a match-up that can go either way. champs that can all in and waveclear well. brand, cho, diana, fizz, kat, kayle, zed...You have quite a few options
Wut.
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On March 19 2013 09:01 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 07:38 VayneAuthority wrote:On March 19 2013 07:30 HolyToss1911 wrote:
How do people deal with Kha mid? I usually go Diana against him but it still feels like a match-up that can go either way. champs that can all in and waveclear well. brand, cho, diana, fizz, kat, kayle, zed...You have quite a few options Wut.
Basically 1shot wave with max E.
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But then Kha'Zix can do the same and you're paying more for not having E than he's paying for not having W considering the shorter cd, that one-shotting the wave gives him the isolated bonus on Q, and that he's still got his escape if one of you all-in.
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Seriously, what is with no thresh nerfs? He's like the most annoying support ever. I haven't played Taric support in a while, so not sure how he is there, but Taric top definitely needed a nerf. How much he could bully people and how stupid his gank assist was is just ridiculous.
Also, as one last question, is the Runaan's change gonna do much? If they wanted to increase the range, I thought that something like at least 450 would be needed, because if you're ranged and that close you're generally in a dangerous area.
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On March 19 2013 09:03 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 09:01 Alaric wrote:On March 19 2013 07:38 VayneAuthority wrote:On March 19 2013 07:30 HolyToss1911 wrote:
How do people deal with Kha mid? I usually go Diana against him but it still feels like a match-up that can go either way. champs that can all in and waveclear well. brand, cho, diana, fizz, kat, kayle, zed...You have quite a few options Wut. Basically 1shot wave with max E.
If you use E to wave clear Kha'Zix is just going to 100-0 you. I personally think that Fizz is pretty bad against Kha'Zix. Unless the jungler comes Fizz can't win a 1v1 against Kha'Zix.
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who the hell just waveclears while you are both sitting in lane?
first priority mid is to get any advantage you can over the other laner and make them miss cs.
If khazix uses his evolved W to waveclear, you can counteract that with your E and proceed to follow his roaming. Otherwise, fizz wins in a straight up 1v1 as he can 100-0 khazix pretty easily until hexdrinker.
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On March 19 2013 09:11 Dark_Chill wrote:
Seriously, what is with no thresh nerfs? He's like the most annoying support ever. I haven't played Taric support in a while, so not sure how he is there, but Taric top definitely needed a nerf. How much he could bully people and how stupid his gank assist was is just ridiculous.
Also, as one last question, is the Runaan's change gonna do much? If they wanted to increase the range, I thought that something like at least 450 would be needed, because if you're ranged and that close you're generally in a dangerous area.
I had a twitch with iedge shiv BT lw hurricane in one of my games. I was noct, dove in and died, but all cept ADC stacked on me. Fastest quadra I have ever seen in ranked apart from maybe some yi stuff. Literally 2 shot 4 people. In certain situations, hurricane is godlike
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On March 19 2013 09:11 Dark_Chill wrote:
Seriously, what is with no thresh nerfs? He's like the most annoying support ever. I haven't played Taric support in a while, so not sure how he is there, but Taric top definitely needed a nerf. How much he could bully people and how stupid his gank assist was is just ridiculous.
Also, as one last question, is the Runaan's change gonna do much? If they wanted to increase the range, I thought that something like at least 450 would be needed, because if you're ranged and that close you're generally in a dangerous area.
He needs to go on sale first then the nerfs.
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Dat Mafa Support Kayle holy hell.
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