• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:45
CET 16:45
KST 00:45
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival12TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9
Community News
BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION1Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams5Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest3Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou22Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four3
StarCraft 2
General
Could we add "Avoid Matchup" Feature for rankgame RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Smart servos says it affects liberators as well Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou The New Patch Killed Mech!
Tourneys
RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment
Brood War
General
[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival BSL Season 21 BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET ASL20 Pre-season Tier List ranking! ASL Runner-Up Race Stats
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION ASL final tickets help [ASL20] Semifinal A
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Roaring Currents ASL final
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently... Movie Discussion!
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Benefits Of Limited Comm…
TrAiDoS
Sabrina was soooo lame on S…
Peanutsc
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Certified Crazy
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1645 users

[Patch 3.04: Zac] General Discussion - Page 2

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 99 100 101 Next
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
March 18 2013 22:26 GMT
#21
I thought elise in her current state was in a good spot, those manacost already really high so unless elise starts with 3 or 4 manapots I laugh at her Q harass and supposed lane bully.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
March 18 2013 22:28 GMT
#22
On March 19 2013 07:26 AsnSensation wrote:
I thought elise in her current state was in a good spot, those manacost already really high so unless elise starts with 3 or 4 manapots I laugh at her Q harass and supposed lane bully.


Ikr? You can alrdy only cast like 3-4 Qs before you're oom. Shit costs 100 mana at lvl1! And doesn't even do that much lower lvls. Lets nerf the dmg so it's just a noob trap spell cast now until lategame.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
HolyToss1911
Profile Joined May 2007
354 Posts
March 18 2013 22:30 GMT
#23
How do people deal with Kha mid? I usually go Diana against him but it still feels like a match-up that can go either way.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 18 2013 22:32 GMT
#24
Hmm. Can someone explain how/if Iceborn Gauntlet and Lichbane interact?
Freeeeeeedom
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
March 18 2013 22:38 GMT
#25
On March 19 2013 07:30 HolyToss1911 wrote:
How do people deal with Kha mid? I usually go Diana against him but it still feels like a match-up that can go either way.


champs that can all in and waveclear well.

brand, cho, diana, fizz, kat, kayle, zed...You have quite a few options
I come in for the scraps
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
March 18 2013 22:40 GMT
#26
On March 19 2013 07:32 cLutZ wrote:
Hmm. Can someone explain how/if Iceborn Gauntlet and Lichbane interact?


Sheen used to build both. If you are wondering about the gold changes.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
March 18 2013 22:43 GMT
#27
League of Hydra inc
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
March 18 2013 22:44 GMT
#28
On March 19 2013 07:40 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 07:32 cLutZ wrote:
Hmm. Can someone explain how/if Iceborn Gauntlet and Lichbane interact?


Sheen used to build both. If you are wondering about the gold changes.

if he means whether or not you get both spell blades or not they don't you only can use one spellblade(?) proc not sure which one is cancelled out though
BW -> League -> CSGO
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
March 18 2013 22:46 GMT
#29
No clue why I would play singed now honestly.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-18 22:51:35
March 18 2013 22:50 GMT
#30
On March 19 2013 07:32 cLutZ wrote:
Hmm. Can someone explain how/if Iceborn Gauntlet and Lichbane interact?

From the wiki:

In the event you own multiple spellblade items, the order of priority is: Lich Bane, Trinity Force, Iceborn Gauntlet and Sheen.


So Lichbane overrrides Gauntlet entirely.
Moderator
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 18 2013 22:50 GMT
#31
On March 19 2013 07:46 UniversalSnip wrote:
No clue why I would play singed now honestly.

Why wouldn't you? Those nerfs are completely laughable. Nothing's going to stop Singed from getting farmed. Continue to build RoA into Staff and you can pretty much shrug off the Fling nerf. Insanity Potion doesn't reduce CC? Oh noes, we can't go full retard into 5 champions anymore but he's still stronk as fk.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 18 2013 22:54 GMT
#32
Gutted Rumble nerf will probably be coming with next patch.
Wasn't on PBE long enough...
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
March 18 2013 22:55 GMT
#33
On March 19 2013 07:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
Gutted Rumble nerf will probably be coming with next patch.
Wasn't on PBE long enough...

Might be adjusted by then.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 18 2013 22:56 GMT
#34
We will see about the Singed nerf. I think the removal of CC reduction from Singed is a huge deal.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
March 18 2013 22:56 GMT
#35
On March 19 2013 07:28 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 07:26 AsnSensation wrote:
I thought elise in her current state was in a good spot, those manacost already really high so unless elise starts with 3 or 4 manapots I laugh at her Q harass and supposed lane bully.


Ikr? You can alrdy only cast like 3-4 Qs before you're oom. Shit costs 100 mana at lvl1! And doesn't even do that much lower lvls. Lets nerf the dmg so it's just a noob trap spell cast now until lategame.

did u watch yesterdays mlg finals? support elise was beating fed renek 1v1
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-18 23:01:33
March 18 2013 23:01 GMT
#36
On March 19 2013 07:50 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 07:32 cLutZ wrote:
Hmm. Can someone explain how/if Iceborn Gauntlet and Lichbane interact?

From the wiki:

Show nested quote +
In the event you own multiple spellblade items, the order of priority is: Lich Bane, Trinity Force, Iceborn Gauntlet and Sheen.


So Lichbane overrrides Gauntlet entirely.

You still get the AoE slow from Gauntlet tho (unless they stealth fixed that).
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4129 Posts
March 18 2013 23:02 GMT
#37
On March 19 2013 07:30 HolyToss1911 wrote:
How do people deal with Kha mid? I usually go Diana against him but it still feels like a match-up that can go either way.

Kayle beats him hardcore
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1285 Posts
March 18 2013 23:04 GMT
#38
Let's put Jarvan on free week then proceed to nerf him right after!

Anyway, as a Xin jungler most of the timer, J4 being free was very good for me as it allowed me to experience jungling in a different perspective. Xin is very stable early game but J4 just takes over once you hit past level 11 or so, the damage output is just insane.

With BotRK, I was playing ADC last night, I had 2.8k and about to recall to buy it in 1 go, swear to god it costed less than 3k last time I checked, thought I was tripping hard.
sup
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
March 18 2013 23:04 GMT
#39
On March 19 2013 07:56 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 07:28 Zooper31 wrote:
On March 19 2013 07:26 AsnSensation wrote:
I thought elise in her current state was in a good spot, those manacost already really high so unless elise starts with 3 or 4 manapots I laugh at her Q harass and supposed lane bully.


Ikr? You can alrdy only cast like 3-4 Qs before you're oom. Shit costs 100 mana at lvl1! And doesn't even do that much lower lvls. Lets nerf the dmg so it's just a noob trap spell cast now until lategame.

did u watch yesterdays mlg finals? support elise was beating fed renek 1v1


Can you link me the game and timestamp? pretty sure that's impossible.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
March 18 2013 23:08 GMT
#40
On March 19 2013 07:50 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 07:46 UniversalSnip wrote:
No clue why I would play singed now honestly.

Why wouldn't you? Those nerfs are completely laughable. Nothing's going to stop Singed from getting farmed. Continue to build RoA into Staff and you can pretty much shrug off the Fling nerf. Insanity Potion doesn't reduce CC? Oh noes, we can't go full retard into 5 champions anymore but he's still stronk as fk.


I'm thinking of all the instances where I just barely killed someone and how important they were to how I played the rest of the game.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 99 100 101 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
CrankTV Team League
13:00
Group Stage: 3 Bo5s
Streamerzone vs Team VitalityLIVE!
Shopify Rebellion vs Team Vitality
LiquipediaDiscussion
Wardi Open
12:00
#57
WardiTV1342
OGKoka 555
SteadfastSC162
Rex131
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
OGKoka 555
SteadfastSC 162
Rex 131
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 37003
Sea 1133
ToSsGirL 98
Rock 58
Movie 29
yabsab 12
Shine 6
Dota 2
Gorgc7048
qojqva3545
Dendi925
420jenkins270
syndereN241
XcaliburYe166
Counter-Strike
fl0m2579
markeloff112
FunKaTv 31
Other Games
singsing2032
hiko732
B2W.Neo643
crisheroes375
Lowko198
Sick183
Liquid`VortiX121
ArmadaUGS120
QueenE61
Mew2King60
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL20422
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 13
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 88
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2717
• WagamamaTV509
League of Legends
• Nemesis5129
• TFBlade358
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
1h 15m
BSL 21
9h 15m
WardiTV Invitational
20h 15m
CrankTV Team League
21h 15m
BASILISK vs TBD
Team Liquid vs Team Falcon
BSL 21
1d 9h
Replay Cast
1d 18h
OSC
1d 20h
CrankTV Team League
1d 21h
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
[ Show More ]
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
BSL Team A[vengers]
4 days
Dewalt vs Shine
UltrA vs ZeLoT
BSL 21
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
BSL Team A[vengers]
5 days
Cross vs Motive
Sziky vs HiyA
BSL 21
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20
WardiTV TLMC #15
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
BSL 21 Team A
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.