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[Patch 3.04: Zac] General Discussion - Page 4

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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 19 2013 00:32 GMT
#61
On March 19 2013 09:18 VayneAuthority wrote:
who the hell just waveclears while you are both sitting in lane?

first priority mid is to get any advantage you can over the other laner and make them miss cs.

If khazix uses his evolved W to waveclear, you can counteract that with your E and proceed to follow his roaming. Otherwise, fizz wins in a straight up 1v1 as he can 100-0 khazix pretty easily until hexdrinker.

If Fizz maxes his E and uses it to waveclear, you just all-in him immediatly before the cd comes back up and he'll lose to Kha'Zix.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
March 19 2013 00:38 GMT
#62
Playing League for a bit, streaming
It's your boy Guzma!
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
March 19 2013 00:39 GMT
#63
There's also the fact that pre-6 Kha'Zix is highly advantaged. Even post-6 Fizz only wins trades if he lands ult and Kha'Zix can clear ranged minions from 1000 range (not to mention you're gonna hit Fizz with W if he's standing in the wave and CSing so you essentially can just zone him or force him to try and ult you).
Gearuza
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
150 Posts
March 19 2013 00:39 GMT
#64
Some Zac footage:

http://v.qq.com/cover/k/klx5fzqmjip5mys.html?vid=o0012y7p500
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 19 2013 00:40 GMT
#65
On March 19 2013 09:11 Dark_Chill wrote:
Seriously, what is with no thresh nerfs? He's like the most annoying support ever. I haven't played Taric support in a while, so not sure how he is there, but Taric top definitely needed a nerf. How much he could bully people and how stupid his gank assist was is just ridiculous.
Also, as one last question, is the Runaan's change gonna do much? If they wanted to increase the range, I thought that something like at least 450 would be needed, because if you're ranged and that close you're generally in a dangerous area.

He hasn't become popular enough to register on Riot's nerf radar, it only responds to high levels of QQ.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
March 19 2013 00:46 GMT
#66
On March 19 2013 09:39 overt wrote:
There's also the fact that pre-6 Kha'Zix is highly advantaged. Even post-6 Fizz only wins trades if he lands ult and Kha'Zix can clear ranged minions from 1000 range (not to mention you're gonna hit Fizz with W if he's standing in the wave and CSing so you essentially can just zone him or force him to try and ult you).



??? No Kha'six can't. Until he gets a decent amount of AD, he only clears the ranged creeps and he cant' do that from 1K range.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 19 2013 00:52 GMT
#67
On March 19 2013 09:39 Gearuza wrote:
Some Zac footage:

http://v.qq.com/cover/k/klx5fzqmjip5mys.html?vid=o0012y7p500


wtf did i just watch
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
March 19 2013 01:12 GMT
#68
On March 19 2013 09:46 KissBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 09:39 overt wrote:
There's also the fact that pre-6 Kha'Zix is highly advantaged. Even post-6 Fizz only wins trades if he lands ult and Kha'Zix can clear ranged minions from 1000 range (not to mention you're gonna hit Fizz with W if he's standing in the wave and CSing so you essentially can just zone him or force him to try and ult you).



??? No Kha'six can't. Until he gets a decent amount of AD, he only clears the ranged creeps and he cant' do that from 1K range.


I said that he clears ranged creeps. And his W has 1000 range. By level 7 you're able to insta-clear the ranged minions in the back.
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
March 19 2013 01:13 GMT
#69
On March 19 2013 09:39 Gearuza wrote:
Some Zac footage:

http://v.qq.com/cover/k/klx5fzqmjip5mys.html?vid=o0012y7p500


he looks super fun. can't decide if i should save up the 6300 or buy karma remake.
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
March 19 2013 01:13 GMT
#70
On March 19 2013 09:32 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 09:18 VayneAuthority wrote:
who the hell just waveclears while you are both sitting in lane?

first priority mid is to get any advantage you can over the other laner and make them miss cs.

If khazix uses his evolved W to waveclear, you can counteract that with your E and proceed to follow his roaming. Otherwise, fizz wins in a straight up 1v1 as he can 100-0 khazix pretty easily until hexdrinker.

If Fizz maxes his E and uses it to waveclear, you just all-in him immediatly before the cd comes back up and he'll lose to Kha'Zix.


all in him with what? your W is on CD if he used E to waveclear. your mediocre Q/E damage since you havent leveled either yet?

khazix isnt even an all in champ, thats why all ins shit on him.

if you insist that fizz doesnt beat him then just go to zed, he just clearly takes a dump on khazix.
I come in for the scraps
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-19 01:16:46
March 19 2013 01:15 GMT
#71
Oh yeah I wouldn't even try to argue about Zed. His wave clear and ability to poke is pretty absurd considering how strong his all-ins are anyway.
(Kha's isolated Q is still 100+ 2x bonus AD on an isolated target at level 1, on a 3.5s cd, added with his ult it's still pretty strong.)
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
samthesaluki
Profile Joined November 2010
914 Posts
March 19 2013 01:51 GMT
#72
man im so sick of everyone playing akali because she so ridic easy and strong
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 19 2013 02:07 GMT
#73
Don't even get started on Zed, gosh. That champion is so dumb.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
March 19 2013 02:15 GMT
#74
YESH for that boost to aegis.

Nerf to waveclear based splitpushing strats etc.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 19 2013 02:16 GMT
#75
On March 19 2013 10:51 samthesaluki wrote:
man im so sick of everyone playing akali because she so ridic easy and strong


Just play her yourself?

1. Find champion.
2. RQRQRQRQRQRQRQRQRQ
3. ???
4. Pentakill
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-19 02:32:41
March 19 2013 02:32 GMT
#76
On March 19 2013 10:12 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 09:46 KissBlade wrote:
On March 19 2013 09:39 overt wrote:
There's also the fact that pre-6 Kha'Zix is highly advantaged. Even post-6 Fizz only wins trades if he lands ult and Kha'Zix can clear ranged minions from 1000 range (not to mention you're gonna hit Fizz with W if he's standing in the wave and CSing so you essentially can just zone him or force him to try and ult you).



??? No Kha'six can't. Until he gets a decent amount of AD, he only clears the ranged creeps and he cant' do that from 1K range.


I said that he clears ranged creeps. And his W has 1000 range. By level 7 you're able to insta-clear the ranged minions in the back.



You misunderstood what I mean. If you're positioning to take out the ranged minions, you're going to be a lot closer than 1K away from your opponent in most situations so you're not going to be able to do much zoning.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
March 19 2013 02:32 GMT
#77
On March 19 2013 11:16 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 10:51 samthesaluki wrote:
man im so sick of everyone playing akali because she so ridic easy and strong


Just play her yourself?

1. Find champion.
2. RQRQRQRQRQRQRQRQRQ
3. ???
4. Pentakill

uh, if you don't use w in there somewhere, you just die.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
samthesaluki
Profile Joined November 2010
914 Posts
March 19 2013 02:35 GMT
#78
tbh its more the fact my teammates dont know how to play vs her so she gets fed everygamethen even if im fed she destroys me and a whole team
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 19 2013 02:35 GMT
#79
On March 19 2013 11:32 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 11:16 Sufficiency wrote:
On March 19 2013 10:51 samthesaluki wrote:
man im so sick of everyone playing akali because she so ridic easy and strong


Just play her yourself?

1. Find champion.
2. RQRQRQRQRQRQRQRQRQ
3. ???
4. Pentakill

uh, if you don't use w in there somewhere, you just die.


Of course. I am just being sarcastic.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
March 19 2013 02:36 GMT
#80
On March 19 2013 11:32 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 11:16 Sufficiency wrote:
On March 19 2013 10:51 samthesaluki wrote:
man im so sick of everyone playing akali because she so ridic easy and strong


Just play her yourself?

1. Find champion.
2. RQRQRQRQRQRQRQRQRQ
3. ???
4. Pentakill

uh, if you don't use w in there somewhere, you just die.

RQRQRQWRQRQRQRQ?
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
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