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On March 19 2013 13:17 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 12:08 obesechicken13 wrote:On March 19 2013 12:02 red_ wrote:On March 19 2013 11:49 57 Corvette wrote:
Well, having a name extremely similar to a champion's name is gonna get confusing when playing with voice chat. "Zac ganking mid" "No I'm not I'm farming bot" "Nevermind Zac going top" "Definitely still farming bot" "Zac camping lane brush don't get baited" "Fuck all of you." Riot's actually really clever with their champion names. Most of the names are also names of companies or people. So if you're doing a Persian vs Greek report you might come across Darius. Or ahri might lead you from ahrinet to ahri the league champion. It might just be coincidence though. Riot has great champion names, but awful champion titles. It's an interesting phenomenon, because it's arguably the reverse with DotA, leading to the fact that the majority of LoL champions are referred to by name, while the majority of DotA heroes are referred to by their title or by an abbreviation of it. EDIT: Actually, I can't think of any League champion that's referred to by title.
Dota titles I think stem from the fact that Dota names are based on Lore(or were in any case), and are rather tedious both to learn and pronounce, but the titles fit their kits and roles, and with exceptions, are more apt as a descriptor. Also helps that often times, the title is a single word.
League has a problem where every single title is like 2-5 words, not including "the" due to their love of adjectives and elaborate titles. When probably 95% of the champs are referred to by name, it's pretty hard to call the other 5% by title. There's khazix-voidreaver, Alistar - Minotaur, Anivia- cryophoenix, and a few others that I'm too lazy to go find. Also comes from the fact that League generally has easier/more standard names to pronounce than like mctauren bighoofalot.
I guess the closest thing would be stuff like cow/bird, but even that is more colloquial.
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On March 19 2013 12:02 red_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 11:49 57 Corvette wrote:
Well, having a name extremely similar to a champion's name is gonna get confusing when playing with voice chat. "Zac ganking mid" "No I'm not I'm farming bot" "Nevermind Zac going top" "Definitely still farming bot" "Zac camping lane brush don't get baited" "Fuck all of you."
I'm totally lost, what existing champion sounds like Zac? Best I can come up with is Jax and that's barely similar...
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On March 19 2013 13:38 Alzadar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 12:02 red_ wrote:On March 19 2013 11:49 57 Corvette wrote:
Well, having a name extremely similar to a champion's name is gonna get confusing when playing with voice chat. "Zac ganking mid" "No I'm not I'm farming bot" "Nevermind Zac going top" "Definitely still farming bot" "Zac camping lane brush don't get baited" "Fuck all of you." I'm totally lost, what existing champion sounds like Zac? Best I can come up with is Jax and that's barely similar...
He's talking about the person's actual name.
I think i got trolled.
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The easiest test is the passive ability icons one, since half of them are just the champion's face
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+ Show Spoiler +I missed fiddlesticks. Fuck that guy. And yeah, looking through it, if you were to call them by title like dota, Berserker, Deathsinger, Judicator, Gem Knight, Bounty Hunter, Blood Hunter, Voidwalker, Deciever and Demon Jester are the only ones I'd vote in. Rest of the titles kinda suck.
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I had a problem with the headsmans pride, for some reason I was sure that was Hecarim... also Jarvan IV could it not accept Jarvan, Jarvan 4th, almost ran out of time because of that one zz
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Finland33997 Posts
On March 19 2013 09:39 overt wrote:
There's also the fact that pre-6 Kha'Zix is highly advantaged. Even post-6 Fizz only wins trades if he lands ult and Kha'Zix can clear ranged minions from 1000 range (not to mention you're gonna hit Fizz with W if he's standing in the wave and CSing so you essentially can just zone him or force him to try and ult you).
Khazix can actually have diagonal spikes go through the ranged creeps if he oneshots them, so he can accurately harrass with W even from behind the ranged minions. That's why i believe he beats just about all melees.
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On March 19 2013 14:25 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 09:39 overt wrote:
There's also the fact that pre-6 Kha'Zix is highly advantaged. Even post-6 Fizz only wins trades if he lands ult and Kha'Zix can clear ranged minions from 1000 range (not to mention you're gonna hit Fizz with W if he's standing in the wave and CSing so you essentially can just zone him or force him to try and ult you). Khazix can actually have diagonal spikes go through the ranged creeps if he oneshots them, so he can accurately harrass with W even from behind the ranged minions. That's why i believe he beats just about all melees.
Not Zed.
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On March 19 2013 13:17 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 12:08 obesechicken13 wrote:On March 19 2013 12:02 red_ wrote:On March 19 2013 11:49 57 Corvette wrote:
Well, having a name extremely similar to a champion's name is gonna get confusing when playing with voice chat. "Zac ganking mid" "No I'm not I'm farming bot" "Nevermind Zac going top" "Definitely still farming bot" "Zac camping lane brush don't get baited" "Fuck all of you." Riot's actually really clever with their champion names. Most of the names are also names of companies or people. So if you're doing a Persian vs Greek report you might come across Darius. Or ahri might lead you from ahrinet to ahri the league champion. It might just be coincidence though. Riot has great champion names, but awful champion titles. It's an interesting phenomenon, because it's arguably the reverse with DotA, leading to the fact that the majority of LoL champions are referred to by name, while the majority of DotA heroes are referred to by their title or by an abbreviation of it. EDIT: Actually, I can't think of any League champion that's referred to by title.
in lol the only place to see their title is if you click on their lore, whereas they are referred to by name everywhere else including chat.
in dota you would always see the title with the name when you selected your hero so it was really up to people to just choose whatever was easier. in dota2 it kinda carries over but more or less you see people call them by what the game gives them with a few exceptions
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On March 19 2013 13:17 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 12:08 obesechicken13 wrote:On March 19 2013 12:02 red_ wrote:On March 19 2013 11:49 57 Corvette wrote:
Well, having a name extremely similar to a champion's name is gonna get confusing when playing with voice chat. "Zac ganking mid" "No I'm not I'm farming bot" "Nevermind Zac going top" "Definitely still farming bot" "Zac camping lane brush don't get baited" "Fuck all of you." Riot's actually really clever with their champion names. Most of the names are also names of companies or people. So if you're doing a Persian vs Greek report you might come across Darius. Or ahri might lead you from ahrinet to ahri the league champion. It might just be coincidence though. Riot has great champion names, but awful champion titles. It's an interesting phenomenon, because it's arguably the reverse with DotA, leading to the fact that the majority of LoL champions are referred to by name, while the majority of DotA heroes are referred to by their title or by an abbreviation of it. EDIT: Actually, I can't think of any League champion that's referred to by title.
Don't the Chinese call most champions with names or sorta-titles rather than their "official" names? Like they call Irelia "blade-lady" or something like that? I think I read somebody explain that about the Chinese LoL commentators.
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got all of them with 4:03 left
only one that gave me trouble was katarina, cuz i thought it was talons title
lol
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On March 19 2013 14:38 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 13:17 TheYango wrote:On March 19 2013 12:08 obesechicken13 wrote:On March 19 2013 12:02 red_ wrote:On March 19 2013 11:49 57 Corvette wrote:
Well, having a name extremely similar to a champion's name is gonna get confusing when playing with voice chat. "Zac ganking mid" "No I'm not I'm farming bot" "Nevermind Zac going top" "Definitely still farming bot" "Zac camping lane brush don't get baited" "Fuck all of you." Riot's actually really clever with their champion names. Most of the names are also names of companies or people. So if you're doing a Persian vs Greek report you might come across Darius. Or ahri might lead you from ahrinet to ahri the league champion. It might just be coincidence though. Riot has great champion names, but awful champion titles. It's an interesting phenomenon, because it's arguably the reverse with DotA, leading to the fact that the majority of LoL champions are referred to by name, while the majority of DotA heroes are referred to by their title or by an abbreviation of it. EDIT: Actually, I can't think of any League champion that's referred to by title. Don't the Chinese call most champions with names or sorta-titles rather than their "official" names? Like they call Irelia "blade-lady" or something like that? I think I read somebody explain that about the Chinese LoL commentators.
The mainland Chinese client has champion names mostly translated by their names. Taiwanese client mostly uses phonetic spelling of the characters' English names. I was rather amused when I first noticed it a year or so ago.
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Vancouver14381 Posts
It's just a 14 day ban on their main accounts so I guess they'll all be playing on their smurfs.
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lol what. elo boosting issues now?
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Lol elo boosting, an issue. No fun allowed.
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On March 19 2013 14:38 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 13:17 TheYango wrote:On March 19 2013 12:08 obesechicken13 wrote:On March 19 2013 12:02 red_ wrote:On March 19 2013 11:49 57 Corvette wrote:
Well, having a name extremely similar to a champion's name is gonna get confusing when playing with voice chat. "Zac ganking mid" "No I'm not I'm farming bot" "Nevermind Zac going top" "Definitely still farming bot" "Zac camping lane brush don't get baited" "Fuck all of you." Riot's actually really clever with their champion names. Most of the names are also names of companies or people. So if you're doing a Persian vs Greek report you might come across Darius. Or ahri might lead you from ahrinet to ahri the league champion. It might just be coincidence though. Riot has great champion names, but awful champion titles. It's an interesting phenomenon, because it's arguably the reverse with DotA, leading to the fact that the majority of LoL champions are referred to by name, while the majority of DotA heroes are referred to by their title or by an abbreviation of it. EDIT: Actually, I can't think of any League champion that's referred to by title. Don't the Chinese call most champions with names or sorta-titles rather than their "official" names? Like they call Irelia "blade-lady" or something like that? I think I read somebody explain that about the Chinese LoL commentators.
Yes, but that's for different reasons.
Traditionally, foreign terms were not transliterated/transcribed into Chinese; instead new words would be "invented" for it. Nowadays most people are more willing to do it, but it's still awkward/difficult/inconsistent to transcribe, so it's easier to take the champion's title which can be easily translated.
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On March 19 2013 14:38 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 13:17 TheYango wrote:On March 19 2013 12:08 obesechicken13 wrote:On March 19 2013 12:02 red_ wrote:On March 19 2013 11:49 57 Corvette wrote:
Well, having a name extremely similar to a champion's name is gonna get confusing when playing with voice chat. "Zac ganking mid" "No I'm not I'm farming bot" "Nevermind Zac going top" "Definitely still farming bot" "Zac camping lane brush don't get baited" "Fuck all of you." Riot's actually really clever with their champion names. Most of the names are also names of companies or people. So if you're doing a Persian vs Greek report you might come across Darius. Or ahri might lead you from ahrinet to ahri the league champion. It might just be coincidence though. Riot has great champion names, but awful champion titles. It's an interesting phenomenon, because it's arguably the reverse with DotA, leading to the fact that the majority of LoL champions are referred to by name, while the majority of DotA heroes are referred to by their title or by an abbreviation of it. EDIT: Actually, I can't think of any League champion that's referred to by title. Don't the Chinese call most champions with names or sorta-titles rather than their "official" names? Like they call Irelia "blade-lady" or something like that? I think I read somebody explain that about the Chinese LoL commentators.
kogmaw has the best nickname. big mouth iirc
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On March 19 2013 14:38 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 13:17 TheYango wrote:On March 19 2013 12:08 obesechicken13 wrote:On March 19 2013 12:02 red_ wrote:On March 19 2013 11:49 57 Corvette wrote:
Well, having a name extremely similar to a champion's name is gonna get confusing when playing with voice chat. "Zac ganking mid" "No I'm not I'm farming bot" "Nevermind Zac going top" "Definitely still farming bot" "Zac camping lane brush don't get baited" "Fuck all of you." Riot's actually really clever with their champion names. Most of the names are also names of companies or people. So if you're doing a Persian vs Greek report you might come across Darius. Or ahri might lead you from ahrinet to ahri the league champion. It might just be coincidence though. Riot has great champion names, but awful champion titles. It's an interesting phenomenon, because it's arguably the reverse with DotA, leading to the fact that the majority of LoL champions are referred to by name, while the majority of DotA heroes are referred to by their title or by an abbreviation of it. EDIT: Actually, I can't think of any League champion that's referred to by title. Don't the Chinese call most champions with names or sorta-titles rather than their "official" names? Like they call Irelia "blade-lady" or something like that? I think I read somebody explain that about the Chinese LoL commentators.
it more has to do with how the chinese language works.
words like "beef" don't exist in chinese, rather it's actually just called "cow meat" in its literal translation.
So that's why champs are called by their literal description.
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