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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 19 2013 08:02 GMT
#141
On March 19 2013 16:46 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 16:17 Sufficiency wrote:
I think the point is that there is this ever-so-slight chance that he didn't do it and it was entirely luck. Or maybe he typed something and someone else (which he had no knowledge of) did it. I don't believe that, but I think we should all have that slight botd.

It's not a court of law, it's a video game.

There's actually not a need nor a precedent for "due process". In fact, as TL itself goes to show, erring on the side of strictness tends to build a better community.

A zero-tolerance policy for DDoSing isn't even that strict, lol.


But what kind of example would that serve? If I cursed someone then that person got dc'ed, should I also get perm-banned due to my "strong circumstantial evidence of ddos"?

https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
March 19 2013 08:09 GMT
#142
Hexo has always been known for being a piece of shit. Not surprising at all to see him get this warning.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 19 2013 08:11 GMT
#143
The guy typed "/IP_FIND_RobertxREE" into chat. If he wasn't actually DDoSing, he went sufficiently out of his way to make it LOOK like he was that I don't think anyone can say it's unreasonable for him to be punished.

If you make a declaration that you have a bomb on an airplane, you're still going to get arrested even if you don't actually have a bomb.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-19 08:19:06
March 19 2013 08:16 GMT
#144
On March 19 2013 17:11 TheYango wrote:
The guy typed "/IP_FIND_RobertxREE" into chat. If he wasn't actually DDoSing, he went sufficiently out of his way to make it LOOK like he was that I don't think anyone can say it's unreasonable for him to be punished.

If you make a declaration that you have a bomb on an airplane, you're still going to get arrested even if you don't actually have a bomb.


OK Yango. Suppose we are both challenger tier players and we play each other frequently. I stream, and I hate you to the guts. One day, after I verbally abused you for the 10 millionth time, you said something unkind about me, which was captured on my stream. Unknowing to you, I have bound a hotkey to my firewall which I activated 10 seconds after your message which makes me seem like I dc'ed. Can I now accuse you of ddosing me? What if the pattern persist through a handful of games we played against each other?

Also, "IP_FIND" does not equal ddos (unlike "I have a bomb"), at least not in the eyes of a common person.

EDIT: so yeah, I am sure if Riot knew for sure he was doing it, they would most certainly get rid of him (since Hexo is a Riot employee, he can easily be fired for unethical behaviour). But honestly Riot isn't too sure about it.
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-19 08:19:19
March 19 2013 08:18 GMT
#145
On March 19 2013 17:11 TheYango wrote:
The guy typed "/IP_FIND_RobertxREE" into chat. If he wasn't actually DDoSing, he went sufficiently out of his way to make it LOOK like he was that I don't think anyone can say it's unreasonable for him to be punished.

If you make a declaration that you have a bomb on an airplane, you're still going to get arrested even if you don't actually have a bomb.


although, again I wanna reiterate, we should be careful with how seriously we take analogies with real life crimes because the standards are and should be much lower for punishment in a video game.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
March 19 2013 08:19 GMT
#146
Seems like he was just doing it as a troll/joke in Solo queue though. Maybe these guys are friendly? IDK. At first I thought he was DDosing in a match vs GGU and I was like, wow ultimate scumbag but even if he really did Ddos him it's bad but not thaaaaaat bad so a warning seems okay.

Don't really care about the elo boosters.
Retvrn to Forvms
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 19 2013 08:22 GMT
#147
On March 19 2013 17:19 Chrispy wrote:
Seems like he was just doing it as a troll/joke in Solo queue though. Maybe these guys are friendly? IDK. At first I thought he was DDosing in a match vs GGU and I was like, wow ultimate scumbag but even if he really did Ddos him it's bad but not thaaaaaat bad so a warning seems okay.

Don't really care about the elo boosters.


Exactly. It could have been a freak accident. I don't think it is, but again, benefit of the doubt.
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DarKFoRcE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1215 Posts
March 19 2013 08:23 GMT
#148
Finally got promoted to diamond V! yay :D. Had a long breakeven time around platinum V / IV, and then within less than 2 weeks i went from there to diamond V. Just gotta wait till variance evens out ~
Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/PinDarKFoRcE
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 19 2013 08:25 GMT
#149
On March 19 2013 15:31 samthesaluki wrote:
heal is only in splash range so you woudnt heal off zed in ur scenario

I would heal off the ranged minions in my scenario as I'm right in front of them - just one spike hits Zed.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-19 08:30:29
March 19 2013 08:29 GMT
#150
On March 19 2013 17:23 DarKFoRcE wrote:
Finally got promoted to diamond V! yay :D. Had a long breakeven time around platinum V / IV, and then within less than 2 weeks i went from there to diamond V. Just gotta wait till variance evens out ~


This answers my "How's DarKFoRcE doing" question.

Congrats! Do you plan to pursue LoL professionally? And do you stream it at all? I am sure you could get some decent viewers if you streamed it.

Edit: What champions/roles do you normally play?
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EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
March 19 2013 08:35 GMT
#151
On March 19 2013 17:23 DarKFoRcE wrote:
Finally got promoted to diamond V! yay :D. Had a long breakeven time around platinum V / IV, and then within less than 2 weeks i went from there to diamond V. Just gotta wait till variance evens out ~


Okay I need to know - did you play Brood War a lot with a guy called AlphaSquad?
wat
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 19 2013 08:42 GMT
#152
[image loading]

Here's my gorgeous paint diagram. Purple things are enemy casters, blue is enemy and red is Khazix. The other spikes get consumed but the diagonal one goes right through the casters onto the enemy, letting you skillshot through the minions when the opponent would normally consider himself to be safe. Requires you to 1-shot the minions of course, but you can hit them all once to circumvent this. I've like never seen anyone do this so sorry if people do do it. Can't remember how many times this specific trick has let me stomp lanes I otherwise wouldn't.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 19 2013 08:45 GMT
#153
On March 19 2013 17:23 DarKFoRcE wrote:
Finally got promoted to diamond V! yay :D. Had a long breakeven time around platinum V / IV, and then within less than 2 weeks i went from there to diamond V. Just gotta wait till variance evens out ~

Sweet, that was a pretty fast journey to diamond V; took destiny like half a year to get to that level. hahahaha.
what are you favorite roles? champs?
liftlift > tsm
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-19 08:51:12
March 19 2013 08:48 GMT
#154
On March 19 2013 17:19 Chrispy wrote:
Seems like he was just doing it as a troll/joke in Solo queue though. Maybe these guys are friendly? IDK. At first I thought he was DDosing in a match vs GGU and I was like, wow ultimate scumbag but even if he really did Ddos him it's bad but not thaaaaaat bad so a warning seems okay.

Don't really care about the elo boosters.

If they're friends and it was a joke then it wouldn't be that hard for RobertxLee to say so.

On March 19 2013 17:22 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 17:19 Chrispy wrote:
Seems like he was just doing it as a troll/joke in Solo queue though. Maybe these guys are friendly? IDK. At first I thought he was DDosing in a match vs GGU and I was like, wow ultimate scumbag but even if he really did Ddos him it's bad but not thaaaaaat bad so a warning seems okay.

Don't really care about the elo boosters.


Exactly. It could have been a freak accident. I don't think it is, but again, benefit of the doubt.

I don't think we need to give as much benefit of the doubt because compared to real life crimes, I think the community for a video game should have a much higher tolerance for false positives and a lower one for false negatives.
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SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
March 19 2013 08:57 GMT
#155
On March 19 2013 16:54 samthesaluki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 16:50 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
From plat V, to plat III, to plat I. Gaining elo too easy.


share these secrets

Have your mmr be way higher then your league rating. Get placed in plat V. You don't even have to win more then you lose. Gain 40 lose 17. Winning like 3-4 in a row helps though.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
March 19 2013 09:30 GMT
#156
Yeh just be on a hotstreak and ace the placements, thats usually enough (if you are severely below your 'optimal' ofcourse).

Gaining 32~ per win atm, hoping to get out of gold soon and my first time into plat 1,5 more lvls to go
KCCO!
pokerface
Profile Joined April 2007
507 Posts
March 19 2013 10:03 GMT
#157
hmm where is my headhunter nidalee skin?
This is truly annoying...Does any1 know how long do i have to wait till they release the new skins? I tought they would be available when the server is rdy.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
March 19 2013 10:09 GMT
#158
They never said when they would release those. Usually its within the week after a patch hits the servers, so anywhere between now and next week. Most likely with the release of the karma-rework
KCCO!
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
March 19 2013 10:10 GMT
#159
Hmm, so is this Elo-boosting really a serious problem? I see alot of pros on the suspend list. Guess they were doing it for an extra bit of income then?.
Terran
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
March 19 2013 10:13 GMT
#160
Are those guys suspended from LCS then because of the account suspension? Or is it just for ranked and normal play that their accounts are suspended?
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
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