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The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
March 19 2013 14:31 GMT
#181
Okay. Well I'll hope to see you on ladder someday again though, HotS will be fun
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 19 2013 14:46 GMT
#182
On March 19 2013 17:48 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 17:19 Chrispy wrote:
Seems like he was just doing it as a troll/joke in Solo queue though. Maybe these guys are friendly? IDK. At first I thought he was DDosing in a match vs GGU and I was like, wow ultimate scumbag but even if he really did Ddos him it's bad but not thaaaaaat bad so a warning seems okay.

Don't really care about the elo boosters.

If they're friends and it was a joke then it wouldn't be that hard for RobertxLee to say so.

Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 17:22 Sufficiency wrote:
On March 19 2013 17:19 Chrispy wrote:
Seems like he was just doing it as a troll/joke in Solo queue though. Maybe these guys are friendly? IDK. At first I thought he was DDosing in a match vs GGU and I was like, wow ultimate scumbag but even if he really did Ddos him it's bad but not thaaaaaat bad so a warning seems okay.

Don't really care about the elo boosters.


Exactly. It could have been a freak accident. I don't think it is, but again, benefit of the doubt.

I don't think we need to give as much benefit of the doubt because compared to real life crimes, I think the community for a video game should have a much higher tolerance for false positives and a lower one for false negatives.


It's quite the opposite.

Say you perm ban him and fire him by terminating his contract, he is perfectly able to sue Riot for wrongful termination. Riot can duke it out in court and Riot might win, but seriously, it's so not worth the effort.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
March 19 2013 14:49 GMT
#183
hahaha

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3240102
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
March 19 2013 14:52 GMT
#184
On March 19 2013 23:49 AsnSensation wrote:
hahaha

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3240102

Boy I sure am glad that TL's fun police prevent us from having these threads >.>
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
March 19 2013 14:53 GMT
#185
On March 19 2013 21:38 DarKFoRcE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 17:35 EquilasH wrote:
On March 19 2013 17:23 DarKFoRcE wrote:
Finally got promoted to diamond V! yay :D. Had a long breakeven time around platinum V / IV, and then within less than 2 weeks i went from there to diamond V. Just gotta wait till variance evens out ~


Okay I need to know - did you play Brood War a lot with a guy called AlphaSquad?


No, i played <50 games of broodwar lifetime. I did play starcraft classic a bit when i was 14 with a 56k modem :D, but not much on bnet because it was so expensive (internet was paid hourly).

Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 17:29 JonGalt wrote:
On March 19 2013 17:23 DarKFoRcE wrote:
Finally got promoted to diamond V! yay :D. Had a long breakeven time around platinum V / IV, and then within less than 2 weeks i went from there to diamond V. Just gotta wait till variance evens out ~


This answers my "How's DarKFoRcE doing" question.

Congrats! Do you plan to pursue LoL professionally? And do you stream it at all? I am sure you could get some decent viewers if you streamed it.

Edit: What champions/roles do you normally play?


If i get really good and there is the opportunity, i might do it professionally. I will start streamign more now that i am diamond and plan to do commentary. I already streamed it quite often.

I have mained every role at some point (mainly to have played everything a bit to learn) but the last 5-6 weeks i have played only top if it was possible (and if i didnt get top i just filled w/e was needed). i Played Renekton, Singed, Rumble, Elise and sometimes Shen. I pretty much didnt play any other heros than those, because I think its very important to focus on as few as possible to get really good with them.

The hero i played the most was Renekton, because i usually picked him if I didnt know what i was going against. I also didnt start learning Elise until ~2 weeks ago. Now i try to play Elise if I dont know what im up against. I find it a bit risky to blindly pick Singed, but I he is my favorite hero to play if the matchup isnt too bad =)


Good guy DarKFoRcE filling in.

That's awesome! Would love to see you stream (not that I can watch it), but the more high level commentary available the better. When I was able to watch streams I don't remember too many players who did solid commentary on their games except for maybe TheOddOne.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
March 19 2013 15:00 GMT
#186
On March 19 2013 23:46 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 17:48 TheYango wrote:
On March 19 2013 17:19 Chrispy wrote:
Seems like he was just doing it as a troll/joke in Solo queue though. Maybe these guys are friendly? IDK. At first I thought he was DDosing in a match vs GGU and I was like, wow ultimate scumbag but even if he really did Ddos him it's bad but not thaaaaaat bad so a warning seems okay.

Don't really care about the elo boosters.

If they're friends and it was a joke then it wouldn't be that hard for RobertxLee to say so.

On March 19 2013 17:22 Sufficiency wrote:
On March 19 2013 17:19 Chrispy wrote:
Seems like he was just doing it as a troll/joke in Solo queue though. Maybe these guys are friendly? IDK. At first I thought he was DDosing in a match vs GGU and I was like, wow ultimate scumbag but even if he really did Ddos him it's bad but not thaaaaaat bad so a warning seems okay.

Don't really care about the elo boosters.


Exactly. It could have been a freak accident. I don't think it is, but again, benefit of the doubt.

I don't think we need to give as much benefit of the doubt because compared to real life crimes, I think the community for a video game should have a much higher tolerance for false positives and a lower one for false negatives.


It's quite the opposite.

Say you perm ban him and fire him by terminating his contract, he is perfectly able to sue Riot for wrongful termination. Riot can duke it out in court and Riot might win, but seriously, it's so not worth the effort.


Speculating as to what legal action could or couldn't be taken to the termination of a contract you have absolutely no specific knowledge of is silly.

Also, DoS is an illegal activity, and pretty much every (business)contract ever is immediately void upon criminal action.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
March 19 2013 15:02 GMT
#187
On March 19 2013 23:52 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 23:49 AsnSensation wrote:
hahaha

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3240102

Boy I sure am glad that TL's fun police prevent us from having these threads >.>


But at the same time, they can be a great laugh every once in a while. I definitely chuckled. And I am definitely gonna start "-smash-"ing people.

For example:

obesechicken13 -smash-
ya tht rite i jst mad a smash at u wat u gn do
abut it?
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
March 19 2013 15:04 GMT
#188
On March 20 2013 00:02 JonGalt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 23:52 obesechicken13 wrote:
On March 19 2013 23:49 AsnSensation wrote:
hahaha

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3240102

Boy I sure am glad that TL's fun police prevent us from having these threads >.>


But at the same time, they can be a great laugh every once in a while. I definitely chuckled. And I am definitely gonna start "-smash-"ing people.

For example:

obesechicken13 -smash-
ya tht rite i jst mad a smash at u wat u gn do
abut it?

yo fak u galby i fite u real gud lik u nevr sawd anytim bro. anytim
u smash me. no fed smash grab u mom dick noscope
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 19 2013 15:06 GMT
#189
With the whole Hexo DDOS thing it really makes you wonder if he was DDOSing Cruzer during the game AL.NA got busted for ghosting. This doesn't justify the cheating obviously, but still makes Cruzer's random connection problems seem suspect.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-19 15:08:48
March 19 2013 15:08 GMT
#190
I initially only clicked the clicked because I thought it was sth about our very own Smash but then I tried to read the first sentence and reduced my iQ by 10
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-19 15:50:36
March 19 2013 15:49 GMT
#191
On March 20 2013 00:04 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 00:02 JonGalt wrote:
On March 19 2013 23:52 obesechicken13 wrote:
On March 19 2013 23:49 AsnSensation wrote:
hahaha

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3240102

Boy I sure am glad that TL's fun police prevent us from having these threads >.>


But at the same time, they can be a great laugh every once in a while. I definitely chuckled. And I am definitely gonna start "-smash-"ing people.

For example:

obesechicken13 -smash-
ya tht rite i jst mad a smash at u wat u gn do
abut it?

yo fak u galby i fite u real gud lik u nevr sawd anytim bro. anytim
u smash me. no fed smash grab u mom dick noscope


no smashbks hrpdrp. gt on my lvl.

edt: its rly hrd 2 type lik dis.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19573 Posts
March 19 2013 15:52 GMT
#192
On March 20 2013 00:00 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 23:46 Sufficiency wrote:
On March 19 2013 17:48 TheYango wrote:
On March 19 2013 17:19 Chrispy wrote:
Seems like he was just doing it as a troll/joke in Solo queue though. Maybe these guys are friendly? IDK. At first I thought he was DDosing in a match vs GGU and I was like, wow ultimate scumbag but even if he really did Ddos him it's bad but not thaaaaaat bad so a warning seems okay.

Don't really care about the elo boosters.

If they're friends and it was a joke then it wouldn't be that hard for RobertxLee to say so.

On March 19 2013 17:22 Sufficiency wrote:
On March 19 2013 17:19 Chrispy wrote:
Seems like he was just doing it as a troll/joke in Solo queue though. Maybe these guys are friendly? IDK. At first I thought he was DDosing in a match vs GGU and I was like, wow ultimate scumbag but even if he really did Ddos him it's bad but not thaaaaaat bad so a warning seems okay.

Don't really care about the elo boosters.


Exactly. It could have been a freak accident. I don't think it is, but again, benefit of the doubt.

I don't think we need to give as much benefit of the doubt because compared to real life crimes, I think the community for a video game should have a much higher tolerance for false positives and a lower one for false negatives.


It's quite the opposite.

Say you perm ban him and fire him by terminating his contract, he is perfectly able to sue Riot for wrongful termination. Riot can duke it out in court and Riot might win, but seriously, it's so not worth the effort.


Speculating as to what legal action could or couldn't be taken to the termination of a contract you have absolutely no specific knowledge of is silly.

Also, DoS is an illegal activity, and pretty much every (business)contract ever is immediately void upon criminal action.


Eh...

A-Rod.
Freeeeeeedom
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
March 19 2013 15:58 GMT
#193
On March 20 2013 00:52 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 00:00 red_ wrote:
On March 19 2013 23:46 Sufficiency wrote:
On March 19 2013 17:48 TheYango wrote:
On March 19 2013 17:19 Chrispy wrote:
Seems like he was just doing it as a troll/joke in Solo queue though. Maybe these guys are friendly? IDK. At first I thought he was DDosing in a match vs GGU and I was like, wow ultimate scumbag but even if he really did Ddos him it's bad but not thaaaaaat bad so a warning seems okay.

Don't really care about the elo boosters.

If they're friends and it was a joke then it wouldn't be that hard for RobertxLee to say so.

On March 19 2013 17:22 Sufficiency wrote:
On March 19 2013 17:19 Chrispy wrote:
Seems like he was just doing it as a troll/joke in Solo queue though. Maybe these guys are friendly? IDK. At first I thought he was DDosing in a match vs GGU and I was like, wow ultimate scumbag but even if he really did Ddos him it's bad but not thaaaaaat bad so a warning seems okay.

Don't really care about the elo boosters.


Exactly. It could have been a freak accident. I don't think it is, but again, benefit of the doubt.

I don't think we need to give as much benefit of the doubt because compared to real life crimes, I think the community for a video game should have a much higher tolerance for false positives and a lower one for false negatives.


It's quite the opposite.

Say you perm ban him and fire him by terminating his contract, he is perfectly able to sue Riot for wrongful termination. Riot can duke it out in court and Riot might win, but seriously, it's so not worth the effort.


Speculating as to what legal action could or couldn't be taken to the termination of a contract you have absolutely no specific knowledge of is silly.

Also, DoS is an illegal activity, and pretty much every (business)contract ever is immediately void upon criminal action.


Eh...

A-Rod.


First, having steroids in your system is not illegal, possessing them physically is. Second, I should've been better with my wording, but the contract could be voided, not always is voided. Obviously if the business thinks it's better to keep the person employed even given their crime, they will. I think this is probably the road Riot is taking anyway, what with their slap on the wrist 'warning.' They are playing a balancing act between making the LCS look professional and making it look competitive; banning/terminating a decent portion of your competitors and their management certainly hinders the competitive part, but if their behavior gets too bad it affects the professional part. IMO DDoS'ing other players breaks that line, but apparently Riot does not share my opinion.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Lounge
Profile Joined November 2011
537 Posts
March 19 2013 16:19 GMT
#194
What I took from the post was that if they do get any concrete proof there will be action taken.

Hexo is hereby given a first and final warning regarding the issuance of threats of DoS attacks or the actual launching of DoS attacks. Any future such actions, or any confirmed past or future DoS attacks will result in a permanent account ban and corresponding competition penalties, as deemed appropriate by LCS.

(Emphasis mine.) I took that to mean that if they confirm this they will take action, but for now they've simply issued a warning that even joking about it is a no go. But I could see how it could be read as "we'll let this instance slide," and hope that's not what they meant.
Wrag
Profile Joined February 2012
France124 Posts
March 19 2013 16:19 GMT
#195
On March 20 2013 00:58 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 00:52 cLutZ wrote:
On March 20 2013 00:00 red_ wrote:
On March 19 2013 23:46 Sufficiency wrote:
On March 19 2013 17:48 TheYango wrote:
On March 19 2013 17:19 Chrispy wrote:
Seems like he was just doing it as a troll/joke in Solo queue though. Maybe these guys are friendly? IDK. At first I thought he was DDosing in a match vs GGU and I was like, wow ultimate scumbag but even if he really did Ddos him it's bad but not thaaaaaat bad so a warning seems okay.

Don't really care about the elo boosters.

If they're friends and it was a joke then it wouldn't be that hard for RobertxLee to say so.

On March 19 2013 17:22 Sufficiency wrote:
On March 19 2013 17:19 Chrispy wrote:
Seems like he was just doing it as a troll/joke in Solo queue though. Maybe these guys are friendly? IDK. At first I thought he was DDosing in a match vs GGU and I was like, wow ultimate scumbag but even if he really did Ddos him it's bad but not thaaaaaat bad so a warning seems okay.

Don't really care about the elo boosters.


Exactly. It could have been a freak accident. I don't think it is, but again, benefit of the doubt.

I don't think we need to give as much benefit of the doubt because compared to real life crimes, I think the community for a video game should have a much higher tolerance for false positives and a lower one for false negatives.


It's quite the opposite.

Say you perm ban him and fire him by terminating his contract, he is perfectly able to sue Riot for wrongful termination. Riot can duke it out in court and Riot might win, but seriously, it's so not worth the effort.


Speculating as to what legal action could or couldn't be taken to the termination of a contract you have absolutely no specific knowledge of is silly.

Also, DoS is an illegal activity, and pretty much every (business)contract ever is immediately void upon criminal action.


Eh...

A-Rod.


First, having steroids in your system is not illegal, possessing them physically is. Second, I should've been better with my wording, but the contract could be voided, not always is voided. Obviously if the business thinks it's better to keep the person employed even given their crime, they will. I think this is probably the road Riot is taking anyway, what with their slap on the wrist 'warning.' They are playing a balancing act between making the LCS look professional and making it look competitive; banning/terminating a decent portion of your competitors and their management certainly hinders the competitive part, but if their behavior gets too bad it affects the professional part. IMO DDoS'ing other players breaks that line, but apparently Riot does not share my opinion.


Pretty sure they would have issued a ban if they had proof it was genuine DDoS (wich is pretty hard to get if the attack didn't go through LoL).
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19573 Posts
March 19 2013 16:19 GMT
#196
The Yankees want to void that contract you can believe that.
Freeeeeeedom
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
March 19 2013 16:35 GMT
#197
a-rod DDoSed the yankees?

man
this world is crazy
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 19 2013 16:38 GMT
#198
it's not a confirmed DDOS attack but he's so mired in shit that it doesn't matter.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 19 2013 16:58 GMT
#199
SaintV playing support, with Doublelift. this is interesting... I've actually seen St.V play some support before, he plays a beast roaming support.
liftlift > tsm
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-19 17:11:06
March 19 2013 17:09 GMT
#200
This may have been discussed before, but regarding the Elo-boosting bans and warnings, I think it's a bit overblown.

Playing on someone else's account and ruining games of players who are worse than you is the same as smurfing, which is (and should be) completely acceptable.
Which means that if you aren't per chance getting money for doing it, it's fine. If you are, however, then Riot will make a huge deal out of it and ban you. I can somewhat understand this, as getting an account to level 30 is a hassle, which prevents some people from doing it, but I would say that ruining the game for sub-30 players is much worse than the rating of players who are already in this game for good (there is no escape).

More importantly, duo-queuing with someone and getting paid for it is not okay, but if I don't get any money and do it with my "friends", it's suddenly acceptable? The people suffer the same, again. Maybe I just happen to have a "lot" of low-level friends that want to play with me, how is Riot going to know if I'm making money from it or not?

I guess the point of this post is (and I realize many people already know this, but I've already written too much for me to delete this) that this was pretty much only for show and to prevent people who think about it from taking the next step and doing it.
I also think it's pretty funny how serious people on Reddit are taking this, with everyone apologizing and swearing that such unacceptable behavior will never happen again. The more I think about it, though, it's more sad than funny.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
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