[Patch 3.03: Quinn] General Discussion - Page 15

On March 02 2013 07:47 Perplex wrote:
Ugh.. new BoTRK not optimal for zed anymore. Not really sure what to build on him anymore, I loved going bruta -> botrk :\

On March 02 2013 07:39 Cloud9157 wrote:
Am I crazy or is that Kayle nerf huge?

On March 02 2013 05:29 Alaric wrote:
Last post was answering without having caught up, I saw the trailer after, it's so good haha. And that "Mundo~" parody of "Windows". :')


Did you read it somewhere or did you test it? I'd test myself but farming 3k gold then busting some jungle monster ~15 minutes with the setup + game and I'm lazy.
I'd really be annoyed if Liandry's was made to be universally good. It was originally an item you'd be able to buy so you don't just sit on your mediocre slot-efficiency Haunting Guise late game, so having it be "better" but not that good or amazing was pretty fine, trade midgame power for less power lategame. It they buff it too much they'll just have created another good item and that's it, which is hurting the variety of powercurves depending on build paths.


Too much gold dumped in AS, not enough in AD. Plus it's anti-synergistic because BotRK's passive won't interact with crit the way Shiv's does.

On March 02 2013 08:15 Purge wrote:


http://www.reignofgaming.net/redtracker/topic/91217-liandrys-constantly-reapplies-on-dots-doing-no-damage

Yeah, as I found out you have to rush more AD after you get BotRK, i.e. get IE. The crit application still stacks with the lifesteal component of it (the lifesteal, not the % damage return). And even for how good it was in lane (dat active) it still just was like ..... mediocre to me. I couldnt transition out of it well enough for it to work. It might have just been tristana though.
More Testing needed.

Btw I still think boots3 is sexy with BotRK early. Also, why dont people get it more often? I mean a solid flat ms increase that will scale with zeal items, slow reduction - it seems like part of an ad carry's wet dream

On March 02 2013 05:50 Alaric wrote:

Send your AD carry + support mid, or even just the AD mid, laugh as Morgana can't clear for shit against any decent pusher, can't block physical damage, and has to deal with her atrocious base AS and MS and her 475 auto range. She's much more abusable than people refuse to acknowledge, even at her height.

She's also a burst mage that needs to stand in range of everyone for a long period of time (3.5s min. is long, yes), with a "poke" consisting of a skillshot with a horrendous animation making it pretty easy to dodge during sieges (its 1300 range and 300 + 0.9 AP damage are pretty good points though) and the way her W is strongly reliant on the rest of her kit to get decent damage off and you actually have a mage with fairly low damage/efficiency in dealing it in the current health meta.

Not sure if everyone knows this, found it on BotRK lolwiki just now: "The heal from the active effect will always be equal to 15% of the target's health - it is calculated before the effects of damage mitigation are considered. (TESTED)"

Not only is it 2.5, it's exactly 2.5

If you do it without the 4% attack speed from masteries it's 2.49

Ugh.. new BoTRK not optimal for zed anymore. Not really sure what to build on him anymore, I loved going bruta -> botrk :\

On March 02 2013 08:15 Purge wrote:http://www.reignofgaming.net/redtracker/topic/91217-liandrys-constantly-reapplies-on-dots-doing-no-damage

Btw I still think boots3 is sexy with BotRK early. Also, why dont people get it more often? I mean a solid flat ms increase that will scale with zeal items, slow reduction - it seems like part of an ad carry's wet dream

On March 02 2013 09:04 Lord Tolkien wrote:


Well, I guess I'm waiting for a fix to buff Brand; I'll have to drop Liandrys until then. Sadface. Well, if they fix it we might see him again, since this explains why people haven't picked him up again in S3 given the synergy Rylais+his passive already have (thought it was odd, given his passive gives a good 4 reprocs for both Rylais and Liandrys).