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no more ap tryn
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On March 02 2013 12:19 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2013 12:13 IMoperator wrote: What is with ranked right now, I get 11 points for wins and -9 points for losses. So boring to play when you know you're not actually going to get anywhere. Usually, when you get to those gains, you're right around where the game thinks you are.
Yea but I still don't understand the +2, -20 set up they have in Division one when you get to 90ish points. It makes it nearly impossible to advance at all. Maybe I'm just having bad luck but I constantly get to 94-96 points then lose one game and go back to 75-80 points. I know they want to make it hard to advance but this more demoralizing than anything.
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What do you get out of maxing Quinn's E first? I was maxing E last because it already has a really low cool down the AS from W and the more damage for Q seemed like the better choice ...?
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On March 02 2013 12:30 Shotcoder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2013 12:19 Gahlo wrote:On March 02 2013 12:13 IMoperator wrote: What is with ranked right now, I get 11 points for wins and -9 points for losses. So boring to play when you know you're not actually going to get anywhere. Usually, when you get to those gains, you're right around where the game thinks you are. Yea but I still don't understand the +2, -20 set up they have in Division one when you get to 90ish points. It makes it nearly impossible to advance at all. Maybe I'm just having bad luck but I constantly get to 94-96 points then lose one game and go back to 75-80 points. I know they want to make it hard to advance but this more demoralizing than anything.
It's funny that you mention they want to make it harder to advance when the entire premise of leagues was to make it so people can track progress easier and make it feel like they are accomplishing something with each win. All it's done has made it incredibly hard to break out of ELO hell now and makes playing ranked boring and stale.
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On March 02 2013 12:33 Sedzz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2013 12:30 Shotcoder wrote:On March 02 2013 12:19 Gahlo wrote:On March 02 2013 12:13 IMoperator wrote: What is with ranked right now, I get 11 points for wins and -9 points for losses. So boring to play when you know you're not actually going to get anywhere. Usually, when you get to those gains, you're right around where the game thinks you are. Yea but I still don't understand the +2, -20 set up they have in Division one when you get to 90ish points. It makes it nearly impossible to advance at all. Maybe I'm just having bad luck but I constantly get to 94-96 points then lose one game and go back to 75-80 points. I know they want to make it hard to advance but this more demoralizing than anything. It's funny that you mention they want to make it harder to advance when the entire premise of leagues was to make it so people can track progress easier and make it feel like they are accomplishing something with each win. All it's done has made it incredibly hard to break out of ELO hell now and makes playing ranked boring and stale. Elo is still there, there're just the cosmetic tiers and League Points, and the hidden Elo system governing the matchmaking. So apart from the fact that there's no one true Elo hell, assuming you'd be in one it's exactly the same thing as before since your LP gains aren't precisely correlated to Elo gains.
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On March 02 2013 12:33 Sedzz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2013 12:30 Shotcoder wrote:On March 02 2013 12:19 Gahlo wrote:On March 02 2013 12:13 IMoperator wrote: What is with ranked right now, I get 11 points for wins and -9 points for losses. So boring to play when you know you're not actually going to get anywhere. Usually, when you get to those gains, you're right around where the game thinks you are. Yea but I still don't understand the +2, -20 set up they have in Division one when you get to 90ish points. It makes it nearly impossible to advance at all. Maybe I'm just having bad luck but I constantly get to 94-96 points then lose one game and go back to 75-80 points. I know they want to make it hard to advance but this more demoralizing than anything. It's funny that you mention they want to make it harder to advance when the entire premise of leagues was to make it so people can track progress easier and make it feel like they are accomplishing something with each win. All it's done has made it incredibly hard to break out of ELO hell now and makes playing ranked boring and stale.
Elo hell? What is that?
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On March 02 2013 12:45 Dusty wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2013 12:33 Sedzz wrote:On March 02 2013 12:30 Shotcoder wrote:On March 02 2013 12:19 Gahlo wrote:On March 02 2013 12:13 IMoperator wrote: What is with ranked right now, I get 11 points for wins and -9 points for losses. So boring to play when you know you're not actually going to get anywhere. Usually, when you get to those gains, you're right around where the game thinks you are. Yea but I still don't understand the +2, -20 set up they have in Division one when you get to 90ish points. It makes it nearly impossible to advance at all. Maybe I'm just having bad luck but I constantly get to 94-96 points then lose one game and go back to 75-80 points. I know they want to make it hard to advance but this more demoralizing than anything. It's funny that you mention they want to make it harder to advance when the entire premise of leagues was to make it so people can track progress easier and make it feel like they are accomplishing something with each win. All it's done has made it incredibly hard to break out of ELO hell now and makes playing ranked boring and stale. Elo hell? What is that?
The notion that everyoen thinks they way better player than everyone else and they lose games because their teammates suck.
That being said, it mathematically impossible, because if you goood and everyone you matched gaainst sucks then you should just win because your team has 5 dumbasses and yours only has 4.
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On March 01 2013 16:33 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 16:28 onlywonderboy wrote:On March 01 2013 16:19 wei2coolman wrote:On March 01 2013 15:18 JALbert wrote:On March 01 2013 14:54 wei2coolman wrote: Garen nerfs totally necessary, cuz he's so broken, lol, sometimes I don't understand Riot. This is exactly what we'd hear if AP Trynd was nerfed one month ago. AP trynd didn't need a nerf either. too much bitching an moaning by 1200's. Nerfing is not an excuse for not learning to counterplay. On March 01 2013 16:17 VayneAuthority wrote: how on earth is that a taric nerf? looks like a massive fucking buff. It's a massive buff if you had a shit ton of gold on Taric; and could actually afford stuff like frozen heart or other support items like locket. But more often than naught you don't have jack shit on supports in terms of items. I wanna try Top Taric just for the fun of it lol. I think smash once ran top taric with full apen (due to taric's ridiculous base dmg). ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE! Muramana taric, gogogogo!
In a ranked game i had a while ago, our last pick mispicked taric because he thought he was supporting but only top was open, and i dont know how he did it, but he absolutely destroyed their singed top lane. was genuinely surprised.
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On March 02 2013 12:49 iCanada wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2013 12:45 Dusty wrote:On March 02 2013 12:33 Sedzz wrote:On March 02 2013 12:30 Shotcoder wrote:On March 02 2013 12:19 Gahlo wrote:On March 02 2013 12:13 IMoperator wrote: What is with ranked right now, I get 11 points for wins and -9 points for losses. So boring to play when you know you're not actually going to get anywhere. Usually, when you get to those gains, you're right around where the game thinks you are. Yea but I still don't understand the +2, -20 set up they have in Division one when you get to 90ish points. It makes it nearly impossible to advance at all. Maybe I'm just having bad luck but I constantly get to 94-96 points then lose one game and go back to 75-80 points. I know they want to make it hard to advance but this more demoralizing than anything. It's funny that you mention they want to make it harder to advance when the entire premise of leagues was to make it so people can track progress easier and make it feel like they are accomplishing something with each win. All it's done has made it incredibly hard to break out of ELO hell now and makes playing ranked boring and stale. Elo hell? What is that? The notion that everyoen thinks they way better player than everyone else and they lose games because their teammates suck. That being said, it mathematically impossible, because if you goood and everyone you matched gaainst sucks then you should just win because your team has 5 dumbasses and yours only has 4. This is the single greatest truth I have ever witnessed...
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On March 02 2013 10:09 UnKooL wrote: I actually don't understand why Zion keeps running Fizz, the champion sucks and he literally feeds free kills every match. He used to be so good back when they wered TD, but now he is dead weight. Mid isn't his usual position, of course he's not going to look as good as when he does Top. He picks Fizz because he's a champ he's comfortable with. And Tabzz would like to have a word for you that Fizz is a bad champ. There was a conversation we had a while ago about how Fizz is weird because he totally has potential to be played at a pro level but just nobody does.
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On March 02 2013 13:15 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2013 10:09 UnKooL wrote: I actually don't understand why Zion keeps running Fizz, the champion sucks and he literally feeds free kills every match. He used to be so good back when they wered TD, but now he is dead weight. Mid isn't his usual position, of course he's not going to look as good as when he does Top. He picks Fizz because he's a champ he's comfortable with. And Tabzz would like to have a word for you that Fizz is a bad champ. There was a conversation we had a while ago about how Fizz is weird because he totally has potential to be played at a pro level but just nobody does. Fizz one of my favorite champs; He's a bit too squishy for my taste; also it's very awkward to have a DoT dmg source as an assassin; it's a very finnicky mechanic when you're all-inning someone.
Zion's fizz is actually pretty good (not tabzz good; but pretty solid).
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On March 02 2013 13:14 13JackaL wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2013 12:49 iCanada wrote:On March 02 2013 12:45 Dusty wrote:On March 02 2013 12:33 Sedzz wrote:On March 02 2013 12:30 Shotcoder wrote:On March 02 2013 12:19 Gahlo wrote:On March 02 2013 12:13 IMoperator wrote: What is with ranked right now, I get 11 points for wins and -9 points for losses. So boring to play when you know you're not actually going to get anywhere. Usually, when you get to those gains, you're right around where the game thinks you are. Yea but I still don't understand the +2, -20 set up they have in Division one when you get to 90ish points. It makes it nearly impossible to advance at all. Maybe I'm just having bad luck but I constantly get to 94-96 points then lose one game and go back to 75-80 points. I know they want to make it hard to advance but this more demoralizing than anything. It's funny that you mention they want to make it harder to advance when the entire premise of leagues was to make it so people can track progress easier and make it feel like they are accomplishing something with each win. All it's done has made it incredibly hard to break out of ELO hell now and makes playing ranked boring and stale. Elo hell? What is that? The notion that everyoen thinks they way better player than everyone else and they lose games because their teammates suck. That being said, it mathematically impossible, because if you goood and everyone you matched gaainst sucks then you should just win because your team has 5 dumbasses and yours only has 4. This is the single greatest truth I have ever witnessed...
You forget the argument where only they get dumbasses, and the other teams get good allies (but still shittier players than themselves).
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why do I have a game that says I dealt a total of 23k magic damage to champions, 900 physical damage to champions and 32k total damage to champions as ahri? Does true damage not count as either?
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Right, true damage isn't physical or magic...
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True damage is true damage, not physical damage and not magic damage.
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On March 02 2013 04:00 kainzero wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2013 03:51 obesechicken13 wrote: I really can't trust what anyone says about the game anymore when the community changes their opinions so much for no good reason. Watching this community is like watching a first grade soccer team, and riot is the other soccer team, and everyone's just chasing the ball rather than trying to get into position. you know i was absolutely amazed at how league is a microcosm of the real world i remember somebody at work made a mistake and instead of admitting it and moving on they just tried to deflect blame, where it be to another coworker or to the client and it would just go back and forth business strategies are copied with little to no regard to the actual reason they were implented, and you hear buzzwords flying back and forth that really don't mean anything etc. etc. It kind of is, but I think it's more similar to the competitive side of the real world. What you might see if you put people in direct competition with each other.
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On March 02 2013 12:45 Dusty wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2013 12:33 Sedzz wrote:On March 02 2013 12:30 Shotcoder wrote:On March 02 2013 12:19 Gahlo wrote:On March 02 2013 12:13 IMoperator wrote: What is with ranked right now, I get 11 points for wins and -9 points for losses. So boring to play when you know you're not actually going to get anywhere. Usually, when you get to those gains, you're right around where the game thinks you are. Yea but I still don't understand the +2, -20 set up they have in Division one when you get to 90ish points. It makes it nearly impossible to advance at all. Maybe I'm just having bad luck but I constantly get to 94-96 points then lose one game and go back to 75-80 points. I know they want to make it hard to advance but this more demoralizing than anything. It's funny that you mention they want to make it harder to advance when the entire premise of leagues was to make it so people can track progress easier and make it feel like they are accomplishing something with each win. All it's done has made it incredibly hard to break out of ELO hell now and makes playing ranked boring and stale. Elo hell? What is that?
The place tat only exists for support mains
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On March 02 2013 12:31 phathom321 wrote: What do you get out of maxing Quinn's E first? I was maxing E last because it already has a really low cool down the AS from W and the more damage for Q seemed like the better choice ...?
More mobility I suppose.
I've been going R>Q>E>W, allows me to kite fairly well and have kill/trade power.
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On March 02 2013 13:43 dae wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2013 12:45 Dusty wrote:On March 02 2013 12:33 Sedzz wrote:On March 02 2013 12:30 Shotcoder wrote:On March 02 2013 12:19 Gahlo wrote:On March 02 2013 12:13 IMoperator wrote: What is with ranked right now, I get 11 points for wins and -9 points for losses. So boring to play when you know you're not actually going to get anywhere. Usually, when you get to those gains, you're right around where the game thinks you are. Yea but I still don't understand the +2, -20 set up they have in Division one when you get to 90ish points. It makes it nearly impossible to advance at all. Maybe I'm just having bad luck but I constantly get to 94-96 points then lose one game and go back to 75-80 points. I know they want to make it hard to advance but this more demoralizing than anything. It's funny that you mention they want to make it harder to advance when the entire premise of leagues was to make it so people can track progress easier and make it feel like they are accomplishing something with each win. All it's done has made it incredibly hard to break out of ELO hell now and makes playing ranked boring and stale. Elo hell? What is that? The place tat only exists for support mains
Leona begs to differ.
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