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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
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Mondeezy
United States1938 Posts
I don't play mid very often but I like high skill cap heroes. Would like to use one of them for those rare occasions I get stuck mid since both look fun. Thoughts on each? | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On February 24 2013 15:38 Mondeezy wrote: So I recently came up with some spare ip. Should I practice Twisted Fate or buy Syndra and learn her? I don't play mid very often but I like high skill cap heroes. Would like to use one of them for those rare occasions I get stuck mid since both look fun. Thoughts on each? Two very different champs in terms of play styles. Syndra is much more of a lane bully and if you're smart you can carry a game pretty well by getting fed. Her range is kind of an issue but in soloq it's easy to catch someone out and insta-gib them. TF relies a lot more on your teammates, you can only do so much with your ult if your teammates fuck up the engage. Depends on how much faith you have in your potential teammates. That said I'd suggest Syndra if you're willing to put in the time to learn the champ. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On February 24 2013 14:34 Mondeezy wrote: Is it just me or are low level (like 5-7) games filled with complete raging assholes lol? Trying to level up an alt to play ranked with my friends and it is like miserable hour long games every time -_- Add me and we can play sometimes. I think I am lvl 15.... "Bad Riven Bot" | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On February 24 2013 14:24 onlywonderboy wrote: In regards to Vlad, sure you notice the health cost early game, but mid game and on he gets to the point it doesn't even matter, especially where Q starts to heal for a decent chunk. Edit: Uhg don't get me started on Akali I actually think his health cost for his E and W are significant even in late game. You can't hide in the baron pit camping while spamming E - the cost will eventually accumulate and bite you. Furthermore, even mana champions can get rid of their mana limitations in late game. A lot of AP casters have practically unlimited mana with grail, for example. | ||
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UniversalSnip
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On February 24 2013 15:51 UniversalSnip wrote: im trying to sell someone a skin. does anyone know how to minimize risk on this? Sell it to me instead. | ||
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Mondeezy
United States1938 Posts
On February 24 2013 15:51 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: trick is to mute everyone and treat them like bots that occasionally malfunction and play like humans 5HIT! Any luck today or just more throws? Lol  | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
edit: or whatever the word is. any of the regular posters I'll roll with. EDIT: dude ditched when I got one of us to do it. intimidated out of the scam by a TL Big Name. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On February 24 2013 15:55 Mondeezy wrote: 5HIT! Any luck today or just more throws? Lol Went 1-5 today, PRETTY LUCKY lol | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On February 24 2013 12:48 WiseBagus wrote: Thoughts on Leona Jungle? I have had an urge to try it but I can't come up with a satisfactory build. The setup I had was Flat AD Quints/Marks with Armor Seals and MR Glyphs. Masteries were 23/7/0. Q at level 1, W and E to follow. The one Jungle Leona I've ever encountered rushed Lizard Elder followed by Sunfire Cape. She absolutely terrorized my team, so I don't know how much of it was her build and how much of it was her being needlessly fed. On February 24 2013 14:42 thenexusp wrote: They're PBUs for a reason... For new players, they really should heavily encourage them to play AI games before jumping into normals. If they're really smart, they could somehow estimate their MMR based on their performance in bot games, so they wouldn't have to run into smurfs at all. One of my good friends leveled to 30 playing against bots. When he started trying to play against people he still had little/no idea what he was doing and said directly that he felt he'd wasted his time. Maybe play bot games to level 5-10, but you need to jump into normals before bot games drill bad habits into you and/or you reach a level where you'll only play against people more experienced than you. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On February 24 2013 16:48 Seuss wrote: The setup I had was Flat AD Quints/Marks with Armor Seals and MR Glyphs. Masteries were 23/7/0. Q at level 1, W and E to follow. The one Jungle Leona I've ever encountered rushed Lizard Elder followed by Sunfire Cape. She absolutely terrorized my team, so I don't know how much of it was her build and how much of it was her being needlessly fed. One of my good friends leveled to 30 playing against bots. When he started trying to play against people he still had little/no idea what he was doing and said directly that he felt he'd wasted his time. Maybe play bot games to level 5-10, but you need to jump into normals before bot games drill bad habits into you and/or you reach a level where you'll only play against people more experienced than you. Bots give reduced exp after lvl 15, too. so.... | ||
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Purge
Canada372 Posts
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
i remember we also had an AP yi who would just hang back as we did all the damage, then just saved his alpha strike to kill people, then bragged to both us and the other team about how good he was. i also remember one time i picked a jungler and two of our teammates kept complaining because i wasn't in lane. like seriously whining and raging. | ||
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Simberto
Germany12076 Posts
On February 24 2013 16:48 Seuss wrote: The setup I had was Flat AD Quints/Marks with Armor Seals and MR Glyphs. Masteries were 23/7/0. Q at level 1, W and E to follow. The one Jungle Leona I've ever encountered rushed Lizard Elder followed by Sunfire Cape. She absolutely terrorized my team, so I don't know how much of it was her build and how much of it was her being needlessly fed. One of my good friends leveled to 30 playing against bots. When he started trying to play against people he still had little/no idea what he was doing and said directly that he felt he'd wasted his time. Maybe play bot games to level 5-10, but you need to jump into normals before bot games drill bad habits into you and/or you reach a level where you'll only play against people more experienced than you. I agree, bot games are a bad idea. Also, you will get rid of smurfs pretty fast if you are legitimately new. I am kinda slowly levelling a smurf to practice roles i am not good at in ranked (you can't practice shit in normals and i am kinda too tryhard to do completely new stuff unless i am forced too otherwise), i am about level 14 now, and my games are 100% smurfgames now. I don't mind, but this also means that if you are legitimately new you will soon lose the smurfs. Other then that, give people exactly one chance. If they say something stupid/annoying, just mute them. The game is way more enjoyable this way, and you honestly won't lose out on anything by not reading any word that L4RG3D1CK03 tells you. And get someone else to play with you. Don't play alone, play with your friends. Almost every league player has some sort of low level account to play with his friends, and otherwise, they can just make one. It's more fun for everyone involved, and you will probably also learn more this way. | ||
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Usagi
Spain1647 Posts
On February 24 2013 14:15 gtrsrs wrote: wow, such great news and good fortune today DnG will be attending ipl6, we qualified today through the TSM tourney with curse academy and cloud9 being the 2 remaining teams in the loser's bracket, and both having already qualified for ipl6, regardless of how we place, both DnG and Square Duck will get the other 2 IPL6 invites any TLers going to ipl6? meet up with me?  Congratulations! =D | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On February 24 2013 13:06 Scip wrote: yeah, I mean you could make Vladimir work with mana by completely reworking him and chaging everything about him. However, I don't see how that shows that manaless champions don't increase diversity. I don't see how Vlad is a mess either. His mid and lategame is very interesting as he is a short-ranged DPS-ey AP, but despite that he is very safe in teamfights thanks to pool. We've seen him used effectivelly in the past most intriguingly in Kog'Maw based teamcomps because of this unique role. Early game his sustain is mostly cooldown and partially aggresiveness dependant, which I think is very interesting and creates an interesting dynamic especially when junglers are involved (in top lane). Mana on Vlad would actually allow you to push him closer to what he really is. Basically, you would be able to cut the frankly shitty 1-9 and put him closer to the point that people enjoy playing him at much faster. As for why he is a mess, I guarantee you Vlad would be in the top 5 if you asked anyone who has been around long enough (and probably riot themselves) of champions who have been the most problematic in terms of balance, and that he still isnt in a great spot. P.S. other champs that would make that list: Pantheon, Ezreal, Eve. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23465 Posts
Garen should have mana? What? Why? He has only melee range skills he's like the definition of a perfect manaless champ. You sacrifice utility for spamability. You can't give udyr no mana because his shit is too good early on if you could spam it but riven and shit is pretty fine. Easier to balance? Wat. How many pages of discussion have been about garen being hard to balance. I think smash complained years back when they originally nerfed his E to scale off bonus ad instead of total ad an they ended up changing it back to that so he fits his tank role better now and all their fucking around was for nothing they ended up just nerfing early e and buffing later w to make him better late and now he's really good if not borderline op (can be easily sent to non op area b nerfing w again) | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
So, i figured to get back in game we had to take some risks, because if we just let them push there advantage we'd lose. So like I said, I was trying to make plays, trying to catch people in transition etc. My team on said that because it solo queue we should just let them throw. I found a few pick plays, caught people in transition, but basically my team didn't help because I was "being too aggressive". I curious, what is the general consensus? What is better to do when you are behind? | ||
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