EPTI just hope they fixed the part where you could see her undies when she was dead
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
I just hope they fixed the part where you could see her undies when she was dead | ||
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ReketSomething
United States6012 Posts
 Now its impossible to know your true rating. Also new players start at silver and you can't get demoted? That makes NO SENSE. Anyways at least there will be less rage because people think they aren't losing anything when they have 0 experience even though its the same system as before just with hidden ratings. | ||
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CardG
France131 Posts
Champion dependent? Shiv procs black cleaver? | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On January 17 2013 01:49 thenexusp wrote: You can't really get a good look at annie's face most of the time in-game anyway. I just hope they fixed the part where you could see her undies when she was dead her "undie" is really her pants >_> | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On January 17 2013 01:38 onlywonderboy wrote: I think the classic argument against support GP was that he's just a worse version of Nunu, but the fact Q procs melee Pickpocket gives him an interesting advantage. I’ve always kind of mused a bit on Support GP, but it always ends with “not really a good idea”, especially since his Q mana increase. With no heals/defensive auras/protective CCs, he’s obviously a kill lane support. However, with no hard CC, it’s really hard to get those kills and aggression that you need unless they’ve blatantly overextended into you and then you can stack your slow. Your own personal sustain is very expensive as well and on a long CD, so it’s rather scary to play like Taric (huge armor and decent heal) and just stand in their face to zone. If there existed an AD with strong CC, that lane would be pretty brutal. The only one I can really think of is like a Twitch/GP lane where you go in and Q after he lands his Cask, and then you stack your ults, you give him AD to go with his free AS, and anything that doesn’t Flash is dead. Even then, though, I don’t think it’d be much better than Taric, Leona, or Nunu by any means. Pickpocket Q is fun and cool, and his aura/slow is nifty for killing, but it’s hardly enough to justify him as a traditional support. That said though, putting him in a double AD bruiser lane seems sick good. GP/Panth, for instance, Panth Stuns -> Slows/Morale from GP and then they could Double Ult into mid lane or Dragon. | ||
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
On January 17 2013 01:51 CardG wrote: Quick question : BC or LW ? Champion dependent? Shiv procs black cleaver? MF with BC no doubt... Shiv doesnt proc BC cos its magic dmg,BC requires physical dmg. | ||
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TheLink
Australia2725 Posts
But he's soooooo bad at laning 2v2. | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On January 17 2013 01:51 CardG wrote: Quick question : BC or LW ? Champion dependent? Shiv procs black cleaver? shiv doesn't proc bc since it's magic damage like most item choices in the game, yes it's champ dependent. BC has synergies with champs that can apply stacks quickly and/or in an area (wukong, pantheon, etc) and also helps the other AD champs on your team deal extra damage. LW is selfish but penetrates armor better (more %, no need to build up stacks). And always consider the third option: maybe getting both is even better (wukong with both BC and LW is absolute terror) | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On January 17 2013 01:56 Requizen wrote: I’ve always kind of mused a bit on Support GP, but it always ends with “not really a good idea”, especially since his Q mana increase. With no heals/defensive auras/protective CCs, he’s obviously a kill lane support. However, with no hard CC, it’s really hard to get those kills and aggression that you need unless they’ve blatantly overextended into you and then you can stack your slow. Your own personal sustain is very expensive as well and on a long CD, so it’s rather scary to play like Taric (huge armor and decent heal) and just stand in their face to zone. If there existed an AD with strong CC, that lane would be pretty brutal. The only one I can really think of is like a Twitch/GP lane where you go in and Q after he lands his Cask, and then you stack your ults, you give him AD to go with his free AS, and anything that doesn’t Flash is dead. Even then, though, I don’t think it’d be much better than Taric, Leona, or Nunu by any means. Pickpocket Q is fun and cool, and his aura/slow is nifty for killing, but it’s hardly enough to justify him as a traditional support. That said though, putting him in a double AD bruiser lane seems sick good. GP/Panth, for instance, Panth Stuns -> Slows/Morale from GP and then they could Double Ult into mid lane or Dragon. Yeah, the lack of those traits is why I think the Nunu comparison gets brought up a lot. Except Blood Boil is so absurdly strong that Nunu can make up for the lack of CC/Heals. Plus Ice Blast slowing Attack Speed helps. | ||
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mordek
United States12704 Posts
On January 17 2013 01:56 Requizen wrote: I’ve always kind of mused a bit on Support GP, but it always ends with “not really a good idea”, especially since his Q mana increase. With no heals/defensive auras/protective CCs, he’s obviously a kill lane support. However, with no hard CC, it’s really hard to get those kills and aggression that you need unless they’ve blatantly overextended into you and then you can stack your slow. Your own personal sustain is very expensive as well and on a long CD, so it’s rather scary to play like Taric (huge armor and decent heal) and just stand in their face to zone. If there existed an AD with strong CC, that lane would be pretty brutal. The only one I can really think of is like a Twitch/GP lane where you go in and Q after he lands his Cask, and then you stack your ults, you give him AD to go with his free AS, and anything that doesn’t Flash is dead. Even then, though, I don’t think it’d be much better than Taric, Leona, or Nunu by any means. Pickpocket Q is fun and cool, and his aura/slow is nifty for killing, but it’s hardly enough to justify him as a traditional support. That said though, putting him in a double AD bruiser lane seems sick good. GP/Panth, for instance, Panth Stuns -> Slows/Morale from GP and then they could Double Ult into mid lane or Dragon. The funny thing was is that I played with almost no fear during the laning phase. I will probably try it again, my ad had the same cs as the opposing ad even though the other guy was zoned or cs'ing under tower... XD I'd agree, you'd have to be paired with an AD carry that has a lot of kill potential for it to be worthwhile. | ||
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CardG
France131 Posts
On January 17 2013 02:01 thenexusp wrote: shiv doesn't proc bc since it's magic damage like most item choices in the game, yes it's champ dependent. BC has synergies with champs that can apply stacks quickly and/or in an area (wukong, pantheon, etc) and also helps the other AD champs on your team deal extra damage. LW is selfish but penetrates armor better (more %, no need to build up stacks). And always consider the third option: maybe getting both is even better (wukong with both BC and LW is absolute terror) Yeah, thought so, seemed strange that shiv could proc bc --' Anyways, in a adc point of view : Besides MF and maybe ez/corki, is it better to take BC or LW? Is it more like, if im running a double ap comp (even triple with jungler), its better to get lw since nobody really benefits from bc. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On January 17 2013 01:51 CardG wrote: Quick question : BC or LW ? Champion dependent? Shiv procs black cleaver? Not mandatorily champion, but role (in a broad sense) dependant. LW better for selfish purposes and burst. BC better if you're in an AD-oriented team and the most susceptible to apply the stacks for your teammates. Exception: you're also the one doing the most physical damage on the team. In that case, better have an ally pick up BC and buy BT and/or LW yourself. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On January 17 2013 02:02 onlywonderboy wrote: Yeah, the lack of those traits is why I think the Nunu comparison gets brought up a lot. Except Blood Boil is so absurdly strong that Nunu can make up for the lack of CC/Heals. Plus Ice Blast slowing Attack Speed helps. Nunu is dumb because you think you can win a trade and then suddenly you have .2 AS while you're opponent is capped out at 2.5. You also are slowed so you can't run away and to add insult to injury your opponent is moving faster. Nunu's gonna be the next support that Riot nerfs into the ground. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On January 17 2013 02:23 overt wrote: Nunu is dumb because you think you can win a trade and then suddenly you have .2 AS while you're opponent is capped out at 2.5. You also are slowed so you can't run away and to add insult to injury your opponent is moving faster. Nunu's gonna be the next support that Riot nerfs into the ground. TBH all they will need to do to nerf nunu support is make bloodboil only apply like 80% the effect to allies. Nerfing anything else just kills him in roles he's already not really seen competitively in. | ||
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Isken
Korea (South)1131 Posts
after the first wave last year I was a bit worried I'd been a baad baaad boy | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On January 17 2013 02:35 OutlaW- wrote: Imagine if Riot didn't nerf Soraka, imagine if Riot didn't nerf Janna and imagine if Riot didn't nerf Sona. We'd have 5 broken supports (soraka janna blitz nunu sona) + Lulu who I think is really strong as well and then some niche supports like Leona and it'd be pretty perfect IMO. The way this is going every time a support will be considered the best (considered being the important word) he will be nerfed That's the Riot style. Don't have lots of strong things, bring everything down to a similar level. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On January 17 2013 02:35 OutlaW- wrote: Imagine if Riot didn't nerf Soraka, imagine if Riot didn't nerf Janna and imagine if Riot didn't nerf Sona. We'd have 5 broken supports (soraka janna blitz nunu sona) + Lulu who I think is really strong as well and then some niche supports like Leona and it'd be pretty perfect IMO. The way this is going every time a support will be considered the best (considered being the important word) he will be nerfed This happens with every other role as well, not just support. Look at the pool of AD carries. Perennially, there's always been a "top 3", Riot just nerfs the "most OP" one each time. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
On January 17 2013 02:44 TheYango wrote: This happens with every other role as well, not just support. Look at the pool of AD carries. Perennially, there's always been a "top 3", Riot just nerfs the "most OP" one each time. I want your opinion on the Ezreal nerfs. Just because a champion is very popular doesn't mean he should be nerfed imo, and Ezreal has had a ~50% winrate recently.. | ||
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