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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 08 2013 16:26 GMT
#6761
On January 09 2013 01:09 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 00:38 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
When It comes to 1v5 - we have to define if the opponants play it smart or not. If not - Nasus is the best 1v5 champ there is, with Trynd being a close second. If they do play it smart, Jax is probably the best, although noone can truely 1v5 a smart team unless the level and gold advantage is massive.

That being said - Poppy can actually 1v3 in a 6 item scenario if you are smart with your ult, but you have to be extremely lucky to take on more than 3 people with her.

Release Xin could 1v5 though.


If we are including release champs, add Irelia and J4 to that list.

No one played release Irelia until like 2-3 months afterwards, and release Jarvan lol. Fuck that guy. I have nightmares of that guy just sitting in a lane, building 3 HoG, 2 Philo and still doing tons of damage. Then he goes home and buys straight TF.
God Bless
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
January 08 2013 16:37 GMT
#6762
I think Thresh really brings Jarvan syndrome to supports. That condition where all your abilities have extra things tacked onto them so that you can do tons of different crap with them. Literally the only things he's missing as a support are a steroid for your AD and healing, he has a ton of everything else.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
January 08 2013 16:52 GMT
#6763
On January 08 2013 22:03 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 21:09 schmutttt wrote:
Just on the Nasus might be able to 1v5 discussion - Nasus is not a champ who can do things like dive the AD. Nasus has the best peel in the game and should be played that way. That's why he's good vs Irelia and Jax - they out trade him in lane but in fights he makes them useless.


wat

nasus is amazing at diving ads

if you just run in past their whole team to go for the ad that won't work. If they're team dives balls deep you go for the AD, if he doesn't you slow someone else and then you focus someone else until the AD gets into W range and then you slow him and hope your whole team jumps him.


A team with a brain isn't going to sit there and leave the ad to 1v1 the Nasus though :/ .
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 16:57:11
January 08 2013 16:56 GMT
#6764
On January 09 2013 01:26 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 01:09 Cloud9157 wrote:
On January 09 2013 00:38 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
When It comes to 1v5 - we have to define if the opponants play it smart or not. If not - Nasus is the best 1v5 champ there is, with Trynd being a close second. If they do play it smart, Jax is probably the best, although noone can truely 1v5 a smart team unless the level and gold advantage is massive.

That being said - Poppy can actually 1v3 in a 6 item scenario if you are smart with your ult, but you have to be extremely lucky to take on more than 3 people with her.

Release Xin could 1v5 though.


If we are including release champs, add Irelia and J4 to that list.

No one played release Irelia until like 2-3 months afterwards, and release Jarvan lol. Fuck that guy. I have nightmares of that guy just sitting in a lane, building 3 HoG, 2 Philo and still doing tons of damage. Then he goes home and buys straight TF.


Then he goes home and buys straight TF.


My god that sounds terrifying

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thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
January 08 2013 16:56 GMT
#6765
On January 09 2013 01:23 sob3k wrote:
The anivia egg thing has been like that forever

yeah that's what I figured, just a bit surprising that that was the first time I saw an anivia actually chat while egged

I guess most save the chat until after the egg pops
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
January 08 2013 16:57 GMT
#6766
On January 09 2013 01:37 phyvo wrote:
I think Thresh really brings Jarvan syndrome to supports. That condition where all your abilities have extra things tacked onto them so that you can do tons of different crap with them. Literally the only things he's missing as a support are a steroid for your AD and healing, he has a ton of everything else.


In before epic HazMat Thresh videos.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 08 2013 17:02 GMT
#6767
On January 08 2013 21:09 schmutttt wrote:
Just on the Nasus might be able to 1v5 discussion - Nasus is not a champ who can do things like dive the AD. Nasus has the best peel in the game and should be played that way. That's why he's good vs Irelia and Jax - they out trade him in lane but in fights he makes them useless.

Wut. Nasus trashes them.

On January 08 2013 20:16 Cloud9157 wrote:
Why is there going to be another champion like Blitz. I cannot stand moves that change the flow of a game with little risk involved.

Due to the way it works I don't think he can pull you through walls, though... I haven't tested, but he pulls in several instances, and they seem individually too short for that. Also longer windup so you see it coming, and pulls over 1.5s.

If it doesn't pull through walls then Nautilus' is actually closer to Blitz.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
January 08 2013 17:07 GMT
#6768
On January 09 2013 02:02 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 21:09 schmutttt wrote:
Just on the Nasus might be able to 1v5 discussion - Nasus is not a champ who can do things like dive the AD. Nasus has the best peel in the game and should be played that way. That's why he's good vs Irelia and Jax - they out trade him in lane but in fights he makes them useless.

Wut. Nasus trashes them.

Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 20:16 Cloud9157 wrote:
Why is there going to be another champion like Blitz. I cannot stand moves that change the flow of a game with little risk involved.

Due to the way it works I don't think he can pull you through walls, though... I haven't tested, but he pulls in several instances, and they seem individually too short for that. Also longer windup so you see it coming, and pulls over 1.5s.

If it doesn't pull through walls then Nautilus' is actually closer to Blitz.

He can't pull through walls, though he can still pull himself to the targets over walls.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
January 08 2013 17:08 GMT
#6769
The, attack itself also has a long animation? I am not sure of the word I want to use but it's not as instant as blitz's nor does it pull nearly as far and it doesn't seem to be able to grab people over walls but he could tap it and leap over onto the target as I recall.

To call his pull blitz hook would be a dis service to the ability itself and an insult to blitz from what I've seen of him. I'll be doing some more indepth testing today at somepoint.
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sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
January 08 2013 17:09 GMT
#6770
On January 09 2013 01:26 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 01:09 Cloud9157 wrote:
On January 09 2013 00:38 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
When It comes to 1v5 - we have to define if the opponants play it smart or not. If not - Nasus is the best 1v5 champ there is, with Trynd being a close second. If they do play it smart, Jax is probably the best, although noone can truely 1v5 a smart team unless the level and gold advantage is massive.

That being said - Poppy can actually 1v3 in a 6 item scenario if you are smart with your ult, but you have to be extremely lucky to take on more than 3 people with her.

Release Xin could 1v5 though.


If we are including release champs, add Irelia and J4 to that list.

No one played release Irelia until like 2-3 months afterwards, and release Jarvan lol. Fuck that guy. I have nightmares of that guy just sitting in a lane, building 3 HoG, 2 Philo and still doing tons of damage. Then he goes home and buys straight TF.


Wait GP's used to stack like that (multiple HoG's/Philo's)? Did I read that right? And since when was this happening lol?
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 17:15:40
January 08 2013 17:10 GMT
#6771
Thresh can't pull a target through walls, but he can jump to the target over walls. You can also jump to the target at any time during the pull, and can move about freely while the pull is taking place (similar to Skarner).

On January 09 2013 02:08 Parnage wrote:
The, attack itself also has a long animation? I am not sure of the word I want to use but it's not as instant as blitz's nor does it pull nearly as far and it doesn't seem to be able to grab people over walls but he could tap it and leap over onto the target as I recall.

To call his pull blitz hook would be a dis service to the ability itself and an insult to blitz from what I've seen of him. I'll be doing some more indepth testing today at somepoint.


If you're referring to the casting animation, the word you're looking for is "windup" (e.g. Thresh's Q has a long windup, making it easy to dodge). If you're talking about the animation where he drags the hooked target towards him, I don't think there's a specific word for that (you might say he reels them in twice, but that's as close as such words come).
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
January 08 2013 17:15 GMT
#6772
So can he pull them if its a small wall/edge like from dragon area>blue buff cliffs or baron pit>behind baron pit?

Its good he can't pull you through walls, but I know there will still be instances where he wins the game for his team with one simple move.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 08 2013 17:18 GMT
#6773
I wonder if his E has enough push/pull to move someone through a wall. No PBE account, though.
It's your boy Guzma!
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11731 Posts
January 08 2013 17:19 GMT
#6774
From what i have seen in videos, it probably doesn't. It pushes them by about 1-2m.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
January 08 2013 17:23 GMT
#6775
E is slightly more distance than a Maokai/Rammus Q, so it won't work over walls (except, perhaps, the same walls which Nautilus can go over if your opponent is silly enough to be standing right there).
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
January 08 2013 17:31 GMT
#6776
On January 09 2013 01:52 schmutttt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 22:03 Slayer91 wrote:
On January 08 2013 21:09 schmutttt wrote:
Just on the Nasus might be able to 1v5 discussion - Nasus is not a champ who can do things like dive the AD. Nasus has the best peel in the game and should be played that way. That's why he's good vs Irelia and Jax - they out trade him in lane but in fights he makes them useless.


wat

nasus is amazing at diving ads

if you just run in past their whole team to go for the ad that won't work. If they're team dives balls deep you go for the AD, if he doesn't you slow someone else and then you focus someone else until the AD gets into W range and then you slow him and hope your whole team jumps him.


A team with a brain isn't going to sit there and leave the ad to 1v1 the Nasus though :/ .


which leaves your ad free to do whatever he wants, which may include killing your ad which you slowed when they go to focus you, right?
Daikas
Profile Joined December 2010
United States118 Posts
January 08 2013 17:35 GMT
#6777
My friend just started playing league. On impulse, he decided to spend $20 on RP and bought some random champs. Being new, he did not know to be more careful with refunds. Also, he did not know about the champion bundles, which I let him know were better deals after he had spent his RP. I told him to contact support as they are usually pretty good with customer service, and tell them about his situation. I figured they would refund him as they would be gaining from the extra $10 he would have to spend, but they just told him "Limited to 3 refunds".

Is there anything I or him can do to contact Riot and see if we can get him the refund on the champs he bought so he can get the champion bundle?
Is that a sword? Luxury! Is that a horse? Sloth! Is that a helmet? Vanity!
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 08 2013 17:37 GMT
#6778
On January 09 2013 02:35 Daikas wrote:
My friend just started playing league. On impulse, he decided to spend $20 on RP and bought some random champs. Being new, he did not know to be more careful with refunds. Also, he did not know about the champion bundles, which I let him know were better deals after he had spent his RP. I told him to contact support as they are usually pretty good with customer service, and tell them about his situation. I figured they would refund him as they would be gaining from the extra $10 he would have to spend, but they just told him "Limited to 3 refunds".

Is there anything I or him can do to contact Riot and see if we can get him the refund on the champs he bought so he can get the champion bundle?


Do what you just said, email support (your friend should from his account) and explain his ignorance. He's an entirely new player and he would like the most bang for his buck in term of champions. Be a little apologetic and polite and hopefully your friend gets the full $20 RP refund and he can use it for a collection's edition champ pack.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 08 2013 17:41 GMT
#6779
I tried to refund something awhile back but the system was done for quite some time. After that it was past the refund limit(Uni makes you forget things ) so I emailed them asking if it was possible to refund and just got told nope. I also emailed during time system was down and got a nope. So best of luck to your friend but he has to be aware of the possibility nothing happens.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
January 08 2013 17:43 GMT
#6780
Riot has reached game developer puberty and all communication with support will feel like an extended Turing test. Any sort of refund is going to take a lot of patience and diligence.

It's really funny how closely Riot/LoL mirrors Blizzard/WoW in terms of the evolution of communication with the community.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
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