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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
November 15 2012 05:41 GMT
#961
On November 15 2012 13:55 BlackPaladin wrote:
Lets not get too excited over the new model. They might have made her AA animations suck cock like they did to TF.


Or her running animation will make her look like an awkward lanky pre-teen. Like TF and Soraka.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
November 15 2012 05:43 GMT
#962
On November 15 2012 14:08 sob3k wrote:
That new nid is a serious nerf to her traps if it goes through as pictured...I thought the fact that the traps were really hard to see was kind of intended...

They're moving away visually obscured abilities in general (see: the treatment of chogath's Q)
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-15 05:51:28
November 15 2012 05:47 GMT
#963
If you cast Draven's ult through someone, then activate it again to return it and pass through them again, can you then flash over them and get it to follow you to hit them a third time?

[image loading]
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-15 05:51:11
November 15 2012 05:50 GMT
#964
On November 15 2012 14:47 sob3k wrote:
If you cast Draven's ult through someone, then activate it again to return it and pass through them again, can you then flash over them and get it to follow you to hit them a third time?

I doubt you'd have the reaction time to do that. I wonder how it's coded though too.

I think sivir's boomerang blade follows flash.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
TheSinisterRed
Profile Joined September 2012
United States1546 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-15 05:51:29
November 15 2012 05:51 GMT
#965
On November 15 2012 14:47 sob3k wrote:
If you cast Draven's ult through someone, then activate it again to return it and pass through them again, can you then flash over them and get it to follow you to hit them a third time?

Flash range isn't long enough, I don't think, you would pick up the ult if you were close enough to flash over someone.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 15 2012 05:52 GMT
#966
On November 15 2012 14:47 sob3k wrote:
If you cast Draven's ult through someone, then activate it again to return it and pass through them again, can you then flash over them and get it to follow you to hit them a third time?

[image loading]


I assume no, since you can't do it with Ezreal's W, R, and a whole bunch of other linear pass-through spells.
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Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
November 15 2012 05:56 GMT
#967
On November 15 2012 14:47 sob3k wrote:
If you cast Draven's ult through someone, then activate it again to return it and pass through them again, can you then flash over them and get it to follow you to hit them a third time?

[image loading]

You can get it to change direction more than once. Not sure how it calculates damage in that case though, and as mentioned the timing and positioning would need to be incredibly precise to do this with flash.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
November 15 2012 05:57 GMT
#968
On November 15 2012 14:41 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 14:08 sob3k wrote:
That new nid is a serious nerf to her traps if it goes through as pictured...I thought the fact that the traps were really hard to see was kind of intended...


Really? I found them always very clear to see, especially since they show up red on the minimap which my eyes are glancing at every 3-5 seconds. But the traps themselves aren't very hidden imo.


I find them almost impossible to see in bushes.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 15 2012 06:00 GMT
#969
Observe as the endangered species, the triangle foot, is getting poached by corporates.
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thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-15 06:01:08
November 15 2012 06:00 GMT
#970
On November 15 2012 14:56 Jumbled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 14:47 sob3k wrote:
If you cast Draven's ult through someone, then activate it again to return it and pass through them again, can you then flash over them and get it to follow you to hit them a third time?

[image loading]

You can get it to change direction more than once. Not sure how it calculates damage in that case though, and as mentioned the timing and positioning would need to be incredibly precise to do this with flash.

I am 90% sure it can hit only twice no matter what you do (it's probably coded to hit each enemy at most once on the outbound trip, and at most once on the return trip).
jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
November 15 2012 06:33 GMT
#971
On November 15 2012 15:00 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 14:56 Jumbled wrote:
On November 15 2012 14:47 sob3k wrote:
If you cast Draven's ult through someone, then activate it again to return it and pass through them again, can you then flash over them and get it to follow you to hit them a third time?

[image loading]

You can get it to change direction more than once. Not sure how it calculates damage in that case though, and as mentioned the timing and positioning would need to be incredibly precise to do this with flash.

I am 90% sure it can hit only twice no matter what you do (it's probably coded to hit each enemy at most once on the outbound trip, and at most once on the return trip).


If it wasn't coded this way then you would be able to be hit twice if it barely clips you and then you turn back into it.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
November 15 2012 06:44 GMT
#972
Should tell Aphromoo to try that 3 hit ult thing, I think hes good enough to do it
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 15 2012 06:44 GMT
#973
On November 15 2012 13:05 Kavas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 12:42 NeoIllusions wrote:
On November 15 2012 12:38 Kavas wrote:
On November 15 2012 12:35 NeoIllusions wrote:
On November 15 2012 12:21 onlywonderboy wrote:
On November 15 2012 12:18 LaNague wrote:
well, only one team can win ipl, so they actually only need one korean team.

:p

Blaze still have to deal with M5, TPA, and CLG.EU, it's not an assured victory. But I would bet there are probably 2nd favorite behind TPA.


Yango and I are betting on a 1-2 TPA WE.

G_G

Who's betting on WE winning ?


dat yanger es huge WE fan but I don't know if he think WE can top TPA yet. "They need more experience" -Yango speaking of WE. :O They need to solidify that roster first and foremost.

I'm most interested in the EU scene. S2 was all about the M5/CLG.eu story. Will we have a breakout showing from either of the other two EU teams? EC already did rather impressive at TotL.

NA, I'm only excited for CLG.na but even then I think they also need a lot more time. ;_; Alas, a fan can dream...

You can never get too much experience. That said WE's roster looks solidified already. ClearLove and Fzzf has been absolutely beasting. If anything I'd say it's Misaya that has to step up; so far I've only ever seen him play TF, Ryze and Orianna. He throws out the occasional Cassio and Eve but I feel they are no as convincing as his TF (but then again, none of them are). He's also been dying 1 to 1 which really shouldn't be happening unless you're playing a very lop-sided matchup.

As for NA breakout team it's hard to say; I'm getting the impression that while NA teams are capable of identifying their weakness, they have a hard time overcoming it.

WE just needs more games in a LAN setting with their new team. They easily go toe to toe with TPA and the Korean teams in online events or home-turf Chinese events, but every time they go to foreign LAN events they always hugely underperform and look worse (Worlds, MLG, OGN Summer).

Their ability is easily good enough to contend with the best, they just need to get comfortable enough offline to show it.
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Skithiryx
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia648 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-15 06:50:43
November 15 2012 06:45 GMT
#974
On November 15 2012 15:00 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 14:56 Jumbled wrote:
On November 15 2012 14:47 sob3k wrote:
If you cast Draven's ult through someone, then activate it again to return it and pass through them again, can you then flash over them and get it to follow you to hit them a third time?

[image loading]

You can get it to change direction more than once. Not sure how it calculates damage in that case though, and as mentioned the timing and positioning would need to be incredibly precise to do this with flash.

I am 90% sure it can hit only twice no matter what you do (it's probably coded to hit each enemy at most once on the outbound trip, and at most once on the return trip).


It is 100% coded to be only able to hit once each way, other way if you ran along with it or flashed along it would hit you multiple times, same as Sivir & Ahri Q.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
November 15 2012 06:56 GMT
#975
On November 15 2012 14:41 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 13:55 BlackPaladin wrote:
Lets not get too excited over the new model. They might have made her AA animations suck cock like they did to TF.


Or her running animation will make her look like an awkward lanky pre-teen. Like TF and Soraka.


I'd just like to chime in here and say that IDK why everyone hates new TF. Old TF was much worse in both the animation and the model departments. New TF not perfect but still way better with the only major issue being that they decided to make wild cards harder to see.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-15 06:58:44
November 15 2012 06:57 GMT
#976
On November 15 2012 15:44 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 13:05 Kavas wrote:
On November 15 2012 12:42 NeoIllusions wrote:
On November 15 2012 12:38 Kavas wrote:
On November 15 2012 12:35 NeoIllusions wrote:
On November 15 2012 12:21 onlywonderboy wrote:
On November 15 2012 12:18 LaNague wrote:
well, only one team can win ipl, so they actually only need one korean team.

:p

Blaze still have to deal with M5, TPA, and CLG.EU, it's not an assured victory. But I would bet there are probably 2nd favorite behind TPA.


Yango and I are betting on a 1-2 TPA WE.

G_G

Who's betting on WE winning ?


dat yanger es huge WE fan but I don't know if he think WE can top TPA yet. "They need more experience" -Yango speaking of WE. :O They need to solidify that roster first and foremost.

I'm most interested in the EU scene. S2 was all about the M5/CLG.eu story. Will we have a breakout showing from either of the other two EU teams? EC already did rather impressive at TotL.

NA, I'm only excited for CLG.na but even then I think they also need a lot more time. ;_; Alas, a fan can dream...

You can never get too much experience. That said WE's roster looks solidified already. ClearLove and Fzzf has been absolutely beasting. If anything I'd say it's Misaya that has to step up; so far I've only ever seen him play TF, Ryze and Orianna. He throws out the occasional Cassio and Eve but I feel they are no as convincing as his TF (but then again, none of them are). He's also been dying 1 to 1 which really shouldn't be happening unless you're playing a very lop-sided matchup.

As for NA breakout team it's hard to say; I'm getting the impression that while NA teams are capable of identifying their weakness, they have a hard time overcoming it.

WE just needs more games in a LAN setting with their new team. They easily go toe to toe with TPA and the Korean teams in online events or home-turf Chinese events, but every time they go to foreign LAN events they always hugely underperform and look worse (Worlds, MLG, OGN Summer).

Their ability is easily good enough to contend with the best, they just need to get comfortable enough offline to show it.

I think it has more to do with travelling than offline experience. A lot of people have actually never left their home country ever and travelling overseas, especially on a long flight is a very new experience. You have to overcome jetlag and not to mention the different food and culture.

I've had friends tell me that when they invite some China friends over they always made sure to have rice because they can't stand a meal without them. They avoided "western food" like bread and cheese etc. Think of IWDominate in Korea where he actually had to go to emergency ward because of the food.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
November 15 2012 07:23 GMT
#977
On November 15 2012 15:45 Skithiryx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 15:00 thenexusp wrote:
On November 15 2012 14:56 Jumbled wrote:
On November 15 2012 14:47 sob3k wrote:
If you cast Draven's ult through someone, then activate it again to return it and pass through them again, can you then flash over them and get it to follow you to hit them a third time?

[image loading]

You can get it to change direction more than once. Not sure how it calculates damage in that case though, and as mentioned the timing and positioning would need to be incredibly precise to do this with flash.

I am 90% sure it can hit only twice no matter what you do (it's probably coded to hit each enemy at most once on the outbound trip, and at most once on the return trip).


It is 100% coded to be only able to hit once each way, other way if you ran along with it or flashed along it would hit you multiple times, same as Sivir & Ahri Q.


Don't forget Draven has a knockback.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
November 15 2012 07:36 GMT
#978
On November 15 2012 15:57 Kavas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 15:44 TheYango wrote:
On November 15 2012 13:05 Kavas wrote:
On November 15 2012 12:42 NeoIllusions wrote:
On November 15 2012 12:38 Kavas wrote:
On November 15 2012 12:35 NeoIllusions wrote:
On November 15 2012 12:21 onlywonderboy wrote:
On November 15 2012 12:18 LaNague wrote:
well, only one team can win ipl, so they actually only need one korean team.

:p

Blaze still have to deal with M5, TPA, and CLG.EU, it's not an assured victory. But I would bet there are probably 2nd favorite behind TPA.


Yango and I are betting on a 1-2 TPA WE.

G_G

Who's betting on WE winning ?


dat yanger es huge WE fan but I don't know if he think WE can top TPA yet. "They need more experience" -Yango speaking of WE. :O They need to solidify that roster first and foremost.

I'm most interested in the EU scene. S2 was all about the M5/CLG.eu story. Will we have a breakout showing from either of the other two EU teams? EC already did rather impressive at TotL.

NA, I'm only excited for CLG.na but even then I think they also need a lot more time. ;_; Alas, a fan can dream...

You can never get too much experience. That said WE's roster looks solidified already. ClearLove and Fzzf has been absolutely beasting. If anything I'd say it's Misaya that has to step up; so far I've only ever seen him play TF, Ryze and Orianna. He throws out the occasional Cassio and Eve but I feel they are no as convincing as his TF (but then again, none of them are). He's also been dying 1 to 1 which really shouldn't be happening unless you're playing a very lop-sided matchup.

As for NA breakout team it's hard to say; I'm getting the impression that while NA teams are capable of identifying their weakness, they have a hard time overcoming it.

WE just needs more games in a LAN setting with their new team. They easily go toe to toe with TPA and the Korean teams in online events or home-turf Chinese events, but every time they go to foreign LAN events they always hugely underperform and look worse (Worlds, MLG, OGN Summer).

Their ability is easily good enough to contend with the best, they just need to get comfortable enough offline to show it.

I think it has more to do with travelling than offline experience. A lot of people have actually never left their home country ever and travelling overseas, especially on a long flight is a very new experience. You have to overcome jetlag and not to mention the different food and culture.

I've had friends tell me that when they invite some China friends over they always made sure to have rice because they can't stand a meal without them. They avoided "western food" like bread and cheese etc. Think of IWDominate in Korea where he actually had to go to emergency ward because of the food.


I though that was weird at first then i realized i could not think of a western meal without wheat except for eggs.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
November 15 2012 07:40 GMT
#979
On November 15 2012 16:36 jadoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 15:57 Kavas wrote:
On November 15 2012 15:44 TheYango wrote:
On November 15 2012 13:05 Kavas wrote:
On November 15 2012 12:42 NeoIllusions wrote:
On November 15 2012 12:38 Kavas wrote:
On November 15 2012 12:35 NeoIllusions wrote:
On November 15 2012 12:21 onlywonderboy wrote:
On November 15 2012 12:18 LaNague wrote:
well, only one team can win ipl, so they actually only need one korean team.

:p

Blaze still have to deal with M5, TPA, and CLG.EU, it's not an assured victory. But I would bet there are probably 2nd favorite behind TPA.


Yango and I are betting on a 1-2 TPA WE.

G_G

Who's betting on WE winning ?


dat yanger es huge WE fan but I don't know if he think WE can top TPA yet. "They need more experience" -Yango speaking of WE. :O They need to solidify that roster first and foremost.

I'm most interested in the EU scene. S2 was all about the M5/CLG.eu story. Will we have a breakout showing from either of the other two EU teams? EC already did rather impressive at TotL.

NA, I'm only excited for CLG.na but even then I think they also need a lot more time. ;_; Alas, a fan can dream...

You can never get too much experience. That said WE's roster looks solidified already. ClearLove and Fzzf has been absolutely beasting. If anything I'd say it's Misaya that has to step up; so far I've only ever seen him play TF, Ryze and Orianna. He throws out the occasional Cassio and Eve but I feel they are no as convincing as his TF (but then again, none of them are). He's also been dying 1 to 1 which really shouldn't be happening unless you're playing a very lop-sided matchup.

As for NA breakout team it's hard to say; I'm getting the impression that while NA teams are capable of identifying their weakness, they have a hard time overcoming it.

WE just needs more games in a LAN setting with their new team. They easily go toe to toe with TPA and the Korean teams in online events or home-turf Chinese events, but every time they go to foreign LAN events they always hugely underperform and look worse (Worlds, MLG, OGN Summer).

Their ability is easily good enough to contend with the best, they just need to get comfortable enough offline to show it.

I think it has more to do with travelling than offline experience. A lot of people have actually never left their home country ever and travelling overseas, especially on a long flight is a very new experience. You have to overcome jetlag and not to mention the different food and culture.

I've had friends tell me that when they invite some China friends over they always made sure to have rice because they can't stand a meal without them. They avoided "western food" like bread and cheese etc. Think of IWDominate in Korea where he actually had to go to emergency ward because of the food.


I though that was weird at first then i realized i could not think of a western meal without wheat except for eggs.


even with that you usually get some toast or something
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Wetty
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia419 Posts
November 15 2012 07:48 GMT
#980
On November 15 2012 16:36 jadoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 15:57 Kavas wrote:
On November 15 2012 15:44 TheYango wrote:
On November 15 2012 13:05 Kavas wrote:
On November 15 2012 12:42 NeoIllusions wrote:
On November 15 2012 12:38 Kavas wrote:
On November 15 2012 12:35 NeoIllusions wrote:
On November 15 2012 12:21 onlywonderboy wrote:
On November 15 2012 12:18 LaNague wrote:
well, only one team can win ipl, so they actually only need one korean team.

:p

Blaze still have to deal with M5, TPA, and CLG.EU, it's not an assured victory. But I would bet there are probably 2nd favorite behind TPA.


Yango and I are betting on a 1-2 TPA WE.

G_G

Who's betting on WE winning ?


dat yanger es huge WE fan but I don't know if he think WE can top TPA yet. "They need more experience" -Yango speaking of WE. :O They need to solidify that roster first and foremost.

I'm most interested in the EU scene. S2 was all about the M5/CLG.eu story. Will we have a breakout showing from either of the other two EU teams? EC already did rather impressive at TotL.

NA, I'm only excited for CLG.na but even then I think they also need a lot more time. ;_; Alas, a fan can dream...

You can never get too much experience. That said WE's roster looks solidified already. ClearLove and Fzzf has been absolutely beasting. If anything I'd say it's Misaya that has to step up; so far I've only ever seen him play TF, Ryze and Orianna. He throws out the occasional Cassio and Eve but I feel they are no as convincing as his TF (but then again, none of them are). He's also been dying 1 to 1 which really shouldn't be happening unless you're playing a very lop-sided matchup.

As for NA breakout team it's hard to say; I'm getting the impression that while NA teams are capable of identifying their weakness, they have a hard time overcoming it.

WE just needs more games in a LAN setting with their new team. They easily go toe to toe with TPA and the Korean teams in online events or home-turf Chinese events, but every time they go to foreign LAN events they always hugely underperform and look worse (Worlds, MLG, OGN Summer).

Their ability is easily good enough to contend with the best, they just need to get comfortable enough offline to show it.

I think it has more to do with travelling than offline experience. A lot of people have actually never left their home country ever and travelling overseas, especially on a long flight is a very new experience. You have to overcome jetlag and not to mention the different food and culture.

I've had friends tell me that when they invite some China friends over they always made sure to have rice because they can't stand a meal without them. They avoided "western food" like bread and cheese etc. Think of IWDominate in Korea where he actually had to go to emergency ward because of the food.


I though that was weird at first then i realized i could not think of a western meal without wheat except for eggs.


Plenty of western food without wheat - see any meal with meat + vegetables. Sunday roast, steak and chips etc. Its very uncommon in eastern culture to eat a piece of plain meat with side dishes, but fairly common in western food. More examples would be things like bangers and mash, or a meatloaf (Maybe some people put flour in it?) or any sort of stew + potato type thing, most of those dont have wheat (Unless you thicken it with something like cornflour/flour)
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