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On November 15 2012 13:55 BlackPaladin wrote:
Lets not get too excited over the new model. They might have made her AA animations suck cock like they did to TF.
Or her running animation will make her look like an awkward lanky pre-teen. Like TF and Soraka.
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On November 15 2012 14:08 sob3k wrote:
That new nid is a serious nerf to her traps if it goes through as pictured...I thought the fact that the traps were really hard to see was kind of intended...
They're moving away visually obscured abilities in general (see: the treatment of chogath's Q)
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If you cast Draven's ult through someone, then activate it again to return it and pass through them again, can you then flash over them and get it to follow you to hit them a third time?
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On November 15 2012 14:47 sob3k wrote:
If you cast Draven's ult through someone, then activate it again to return it and pass through them again, can you then flash over them and get it to follow you to hit them a third time?
I doubt you'd have the reaction time to do that. I wonder how it's coded though too.
I think sivir's boomerang blade follows flash.
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On November 15 2012 14:47 sob3k wrote:
If you cast Draven's ult through someone, then activate it again to return it and pass through them again, can you then flash over them and get it to follow you to hit them a third time?
Flash range isn't long enough, I don't think, you would pick up the ult if you were close enough to flash over someone.
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On November 15 2012 14:47 sob3k wrote:If you cast Draven's ult through someone, then activate it again to return it and pass through them again, can you then flash over them and get it to follow you to hit them a third time?
I assume no, since you can't do it with Ezreal's W, R, and a whole bunch of other linear pass-through spells.
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On November 15 2012 14:47 sob3k wrote:If you cast Draven's ult through someone, then activate it again to return it and pass through them again, can you then flash over them and get it to follow you to hit them a third time?
You can get it to change direction more than once. Not sure how it calculates damage in that case though, and as mentioned the timing and positioning would need to be incredibly precise to do this with flash.
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On November 15 2012 14:41 Zdrastochye wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 14:08 sob3k wrote:
That new nid is a serious nerf to her traps if it goes through as pictured...I thought the fact that the traps were really hard to see was kind of intended... Really? I found them always very clear to see, especially since they show up red on the minimap which my eyes are glancing at every 3-5 seconds. But the traps themselves aren't very hidden imo.
I find them almost impossible to see in bushes.
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Observe as the endangered species, the triangle foot, is getting poached by corporates.
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On November 15 2012 14:56 Jumbled wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 14:47 sob3k wrote:If you cast Draven's ult through someone, then activate it again to return it and pass through them again, can you then flash over them and get it to follow you to hit them a third time? You can get it to change direction more than once. Not sure how it calculates damage in that case though, and as mentioned the timing and positioning would need to be incredibly precise to do this with flash.
I am 90% sure it can hit only twice no matter what you do (it's probably coded to hit each enemy at most once on the outbound trip, and at most once on the return trip).
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On November 15 2012 15:00 thenexusp wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 14:56 Jumbled wrote:On November 15 2012 14:47 sob3k wrote:If you cast Draven's ult through someone, then activate it again to return it and pass through them again, can you then flash over them and get it to follow you to hit them a third time? You can get it to change direction more than once. Not sure how it calculates damage in that case though, and as mentioned the timing and positioning would need to be incredibly precise to do this with flash. I am 90% sure it can hit only twice no matter what you do (it's probably coded to hit each enemy at most once on the outbound trip, and at most once on the return trip).
If it wasn't coded this way then you would be able to be hit twice if it barely clips you and then you turn back into it.
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Should tell Aphromoo to try that 3 hit ult thing, I think hes good enough to do it
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On November 15 2012 13:05 Kavas wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 12:42 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 15 2012 12:38 Kavas wrote:On November 15 2012 12:35 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 15 2012 12:21 onlywonderboy wrote:On November 15 2012 12:18 LaNague wrote:
well, only one team can win ipl, so they actually only need one korean team.
:p Blaze still have to deal with M5, TPA, and CLG.EU, it's not an assured victory. But I would bet there are probably 2nd favorite behind TPA. Yango and I are betting on a 1-2 TPA WE. G_G Who's betting on WE winning  ? dat yanger es huge WE fan but I don't know if he think WE can top TPA yet. "They need more experience" -Yango speaking of WE. :O They need to solidify that roster first and foremost. I'm most interested in the EU scene. S2 was all about the M5/CLG.eu story. Will we have a breakout showing from either of the other two EU teams? EC already did rather impressive at TotL. NA, I'm only excited for CLG.na but even then I think they also need a lot more time. ;_; Alas, a fan can dream... You can never get too much experience. That said WE's roster looks solidified already. ClearLove and Fzzf has been absolutely beasting. If anything I'd say it's Misaya that has to step up; so far I've only ever seen him play TF, Ryze and Orianna. He throws out the occasional Cassio and Eve but I feel they are no as convincing as his TF (but then again, none of them are). He's also been dying 1 to 1 which really shouldn't be happening unless you're playing a very lop-sided matchup. As for NA breakout team it's hard to say; I'm getting the impression that while NA teams are capable of identifying their weakness, they have a hard time overcoming it.
WE just needs more games in a LAN setting with their new team. They easily go toe to toe with TPA and the Korean teams in online events or home-turf Chinese events, but every time they go to foreign LAN events they always hugely underperform and look worse (Worlds, MLG, OGN Summer).
Their ability is easily good enough to contend with the best, they just need to get comfortable enough offline to show it.
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On November 15 2012 15:00 thenexusp wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 14:56 Jumbled wrote:On November 15 2012 14:47 sob3k wrote:If you cast Draven's ult through someone, then activate it again to return it and pass through them again, can you then flash over them and get it to follow you to hit them a third time? You can get it to change direction more than once. Not sure how it calculates damage in that case though, and as mentioned the timing and positioning would need to be incredibly precise to do this with flash. I am 90% sure it can hit only twice no matter what you do (it's probably coded to hit each enemy at most once on the outbound trip, and at most once on the return trip).
It is 100% coded to be only able to hit once each way, other way if you ran along with it or flashed along it would hit you multiple times, same as Sivir & Ahri Q.
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On November 15 2012 14:41 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 13:55 BlackPaladin wrote:
Lets not get too excited over the new model. They might have made her AA animations suck cock like they did to TF. Or her running animation will make her look like an awkward lanky pre-teen. Like TF and Soraka.
I'd just like to chime in here and say that IDK why everyone hates new TF. Old TF was much worse in both the animation and the model departments. New TF not perfect but still way better with the only major issue being that they decided to make wild cards harder to see.
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On November 15 2012 15:44 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 13:05 Kavas wrote:On November 15 2012 12:42 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 15 2012 12:38 Kavas wrote:On November 15 2012 12:35 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 15 2012 12:21 onlywonderboy wrote:On November 15 2012 12:18 LaNague wrote:
well, only one team can win ipl, so they actually only need one korean team.
:p Blaze still have to deal with M5, TPA, and CLG.EU, it's not an assured victory. But I would bet there are probably 2nd favorite behind TPA. Yango and I are betting on a 1-2 TPA WE. G_G Who's betting on WE winning ? dat yanger es huge WE fan but I don't know if he think WE can top TPA yet. "They need more experience" -Yango speaking of WE. :O They need to solidify that roster first and foremost. I'm most interested in the EU scene. S2 was all about the M5/CLG.eu story. Will we have a breakout showing from either of the other two EU teams? EC already did rather impressive at TotL. NA, I'm only excited for CLG.na but even then I think they also need a lot more time. ;_; Alas, a fan can dream... You can never get too much experience. That said WE's roster looks solidified already. ClearLove and Fzzf has been absolutely beasting. If anything I'd say it's Misaya that has to step up; so far I've only ever seen him play TF, Ryze and Orianna. He throws out the occasional Cassio and Eve but I feel they are no as convincing as his TF (but then again, none of them are). He's also been dying 1 to 1 which really shouldn't be happening unless you're playing a very lop-sided matchup. As for NA breakout team it's hard to say; I'm getting the impression that while NA teams are capable of identifying their weakness, they have a hard time overcoming it. WE just needs more games in a LAN setting with their new team. They easily go toe to toe with TPA and the Korean teams in online events or home-turf Chinese events, but every time they go to foreign LAN events they always hugely underperform and look worse (Worlds, MLG, OGN Summer). Their ability is easily good enough to contend with the best, they just need to get comfortable enough offline to show it.
I think it has more to do with travelling than offline experience. A lot of people have actually never left their home country ever and travelling overseas, especially on a long flight is a very new experience. You have to overcome jetlag and not to mention the different food and culture.
I've had friends tell me that when they invite some China friends over they always made sure to have rice because they can't stand a meal without them. They avoided "western food" like bread and cheese etc. Think of IWDominate in Korea where he actually had to go to emergency ward because of the food.
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On November 15 2012 15:45 Skithiryx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 15:00 thenexusp wrote:On November 15 2012 14:56 Jumbled wrote:On November 15 2012 14:47 sob3k wrote:If you cast Draven's ult through someone, then activate it again to return it and pass through them again, can you then flash over them and get it to follow you to hit them a third time? You can get it to change direction more than once. Not sure how it calculates damage in that case though, and as mentioned the timing and positioning would need to be incredibly precise to do this with flash. I am 90% sure it can hit only twice no matter what you do (it's probably coded to hit each enemy at most once on the outbound trip, and at most once on the return trip). It is 100% coded to be only able to hit once each way, other way if you ran along with it or flashed along it would hit you multiple times, same as Sivir & Ahri Q.
Don't forget Draven has a knockback.
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On November 15 2012 15:57 Kavas wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 15:44 TheYango wrote:On November 15 2012 13:05 Kavas wrote:On November 15 2012 12:42 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 15 2012 12:38 Kavas wrote:On November 15 2012 12:35 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 15 2012 12:21 onlywonderboy wrote:On November 15 2012 12:18 LaNague wrote:
well, only one team can win ipl, so they actually only need one korean team.
:p Blaze still have to deal with M5, TPA, and CLG.EU, it's not an assured victory. But I would bet there are probably 2nd favorite behind TPA. Yango and I are betting on a 1-2 TPA WE. G_G Who's betting on WE winning ? dat yanger es huge WE fan but I don't know if he think WE can top TPA yet. "They need more experience" -Yango speaking of WE. :O They need to solidify that roster first and foremost. I'm most interested in the EU scene. S2 was all about the M5/CLG.eu story. Will we have a breakout showing from either of the other two EU teams? EC already did rather impressive at TotL. NA, I'm only excited for CLG.na but even then I think they also need a lot more time. ;_; Alas, a fan can dream... You can never get too much experience. That said WE's roster looks solidified already. ClearLove and Fzzf has been absolutely beasting. If anything I'd say it's Misaya that has to step up; so far I've only ever seen him play TF, Ryze and Orianna. He throws out the occasional Cassio and Eve but I feel they are no as convincing as his TF (but then again, none of them are). He's also been dying 1 to 1 which really shouldn't be happening unless you're playing a very lop-sided matchup. As for NA breakout team it's hard to say; I'm getting the impression that while NA teams are capable of identifying their weakness, they have a hard time overcoming it. WE just needs more games in a LAN setting with their new team. They easily go toe to toe with TPA and the Korean teams in online events or home-turf Chinese events, but every time they go to foreign LAN events they always hugely underperform and look worse (Worlds, MLG, OGN Summer). Their ability is easily good enough to contend with the best, they just need to get comfortable enough offline to show it. I think it has more to do with travelling than offline experience. A lot of people have actually never left their home country ever and travelling overseas, especially on a long flight is a very new experience. You have to overcome jetlag and not to mention the different food and culture. I've had friends tell me that when they invite some China friends over they always made sure to have rice because they can't stand a meal without them. They avoided "western food" like bread and cheese etc. Think of IWDominate in Korea where he actually had to go to emergency ward because of the food.
I though that was weird at first then i realized i could not think of a western meal without wheat except for eggs.
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On November 15 2012 16:36 jadoth wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 15:57 Kavas wrote:On November 15 2012 15:44 TheYango wrote:On November 15 2012 13:05 Kavas wrote:On November 15 2012 12:42 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 15 2012 12:38 Kavas wrote:On November 15 2012 12:35 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 15 2012 12:21 onlywonderboy wrote:On November 15 2012 12:18 LaNague wrote:
well, only one team can win ipl, so they actually only need one korean team.
:p Blaze still have to deal with M5, TPA, and CLG.EU, it's not an assured victory. But I would bet there are probably 2nd favorite behind TPA. Yango and I are betting on a 1-2 TPA WE. G_G Who's betting on WE winning ? dat yanger es huge WE fan but I don't know if he think WE can top TPA yet. "They need more experience" -Yango speaking of WE. :O They need to solidify that roster first and foremost. I'm most interested in the EU scene. S2 was all about the M5/CLG.eu story. Will we have a breakout showing from either of the other two EU teams? EC already did rather impressive at TotL. NA, I'm only excited for CLG.na but even then I think they also need a lot more time. ;_; Alas, a fan can dream... You can never get too much experience. That said WE's roster looks solidified already. ClearLove and Fzzf has been absolutely beasting. If anything I'd say it's Misaya that has to step up; so far I've only ever seen him play TF, Ryze and Orianna. He throws out the occasional Cassio and Eve but I feel they are no as convincing as his TF (but then again, none of them are). He's also been dying 1 to 1 which really shouldn't be happening unless you're playing a very lop-sided matchup. As for NA breakout team it's hard to say; I'm getting the impression that while NA teams are capable of identifying their weakness, they have a hard time overcoming it. WE just needs more games in a LAN setting with their new team. They easily go toe to toe with TPA and the Korean teams in online events or home-turf Chinese events, but every time they go to foreign LAN events they always hugely underperform and look worse (Worlds, MLG, OGN Summer). Their ability is easily good enough to contend with the best, they just need to get comfortable enough offline to show it. I think it has more to do with travelling than offline experience. A lot of people have actually never left their home country ever and travelling overseas, especially on a long flight is a very new experience. You have to overcome jetlag and not to mention the different food and culture. I've had friends tell me that when they invite some China friends over they always made sure to have rice because they can't stand a meal without them. They avoided "western food" like bread and cheese etc. Think of IWDominate in Korea where he actually had to go to emergency ward because of the food. I though that was weird at first then i realized i could not think of a western meal without wheat except for eggs.
even with that you usually get some toast or something
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On November 15 2012 16:36 jadoth wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 15:57 Kavas wrote:On November 15 2012 15:44 TheYango wrote:On November 15 2012 13:05 Kavas wrote:On November 15 2012 12:42 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 15 2012 12:38 Kavas wrote:On November 15 2012 12:35 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 15 2012 12:21 onlywonderboy wrote:On November 15 2012 12:18 LaNague wrote:
well, only one team can win ipl, so they actually only need one korean team.
:p Blaze still have to deal with M5, TPA, and CLG.EU, it's not an assured victory. But I would bet there are probably 2nd favorite behind TPA. Yango and I are betting on a 1-2 TPA WE. G_G Who's betting on WE winning ? dat yanger es huge WE fan but I don't know if he think WE can top TPA yet. "They need more experience" -Yango speaking of WE. :O They need to solidify that roster first and foremost. I'm most interested in the EU scene. S2 was all about the M5/CLG.eu story. Will we have a breakout showing from either of the other two EU teams? EC already did rather impressive at TotL. NA, I'm only excited for CLG.na but even then I think they also need a lot more time. ;_; Alas, a fan can dream... You can never get too much experience. That said WE's roster looks solidified already. ClearLove and Fzzf has been absolutely beasting. If anything I'd say it's Misaya that has to step up; so far I've only ever seen him play TF, Ryze and Orianna. He throws out the occasional Cassio and Eve but I feel they are no as convincing as his TF (but then again, none of them are). He's also been dying 1 to 1 which really shouldn't be happening unless you're playing a very lop-sided matchup. As for NA breakout team it's hard to say; I'm getting the impression that while NA teams are capable of identifying their weakness, they have a hard time overcoming it. WE just needs more games in a LAN setting with their new team. They easily go toe to toe with TPA and the Korean teams in online events or home-turf Chinese events, but every time they go to foreign LAN events they always hugely underperform and look worse (Worlds, MLG, OGN Summer). Their ability is easily good enough to contend with the best, they just need to get comfortable enough offline to show it. I think it has more to do with travelling than offline experience. A lot of people have actually never left their home country ever and travelling overseas, especially on a long flight is a very new experience. You have to overcome jetlag and not to mention the different food and culture. I've had friends tell me that when they invite some China friends over they always made sure to have rice because they can't stand a meal without them. They avoided "western food" like bread and cheese etc. Think of IWDominate in Korea where he actually had to go to emergency ward because of the food. I though that was weird at first then i realized i could not think of a western meal without wheat except for eggs.
Plenty of western food without wheat - see any meal with meat + vegetables. Sunday roast, steak and chips etc. Its very uncommon in eastern culture to eat a piece of plain meat with side dishes, but fairly common in western food. More examples would be things like bangers and mash, or a meatloaf (Maybe some people put flour in it?) or any sort of stew + potato type thing, most of those dont have wheat (Unless you thicken it with something like cornflour/flour)
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