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[Patch 1.0.0.151: End of S2] General Discussion - Page 47

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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 15 2012 03:14 GMT
#921
On November 15 2012 09:36 sharky246 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 08:42 adriftt wrote:
On November 15 2012 08:40 onlywonderboy wrote:
I'm so excited for IPL5. Got some lane duck NA teams like TD and MP, but the international presence is pretty insane.


I'm excited to but I gotta say Korea only having one qualifier spot is a little crazy. Especially considering SEA and TW get two each. Also really hope CLG.NA makes it.

unfair much? i hope the community voices their concerns about it.

At most they would have gotten one more spot, in all honesty it's not that big of a deal. If anything the Korean teams need the IPL spot even less since the competition and structure of the pro scene in Korea is better than SEA and TW overall. In the end it's still an NA tournament so it isn't that surprising the NA/EU teams still get a majority of the spots. I love watching the Korean teams too, but if I wanted to watch all Korean games there's always The Championship series.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 15 2012 03:16 GMT
#922
IPL doesn't need more than one slot for Koreans tbh. Like onlywonderboy said, it's an NA tournament. It's cheaper for IGN to fund more NA teams for an NA event. o_o
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
November 15 2012 03:17 GMT
#923
The NA teams need money too! :p
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
November 15 2012 03:18 GMT
#924
well, only one team can win ipl, so they actually only need one korean team.

:p
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
November 15 2012 03:20 GMT
#925
So both CLG and Dig are qualified for IEM now right? And this final match is just for placing?
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 15 2012 03:21 GMT
#926
On November 15 2012 12:18 LaNague wrote:
well, only one team can win ipl, so they actually only need one korean team.

:p

Blaze still have to deal with M5, TPA, and CLG.EU, it's not an assured victory. But I would bet there are probably 2nd favorite behind TPA.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
November 15 2012 03:21 GMT
#927
Somehow whenever I duo queue bot lane, I always get 3 teammates that are pretty flexible and cool to play with. No idea how that works.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
November 15 2012 03:22 GMT
#928
On November 15 2012 09:19 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 08:39 Mondeezy wrote:
On November 15 2012 08:16 Seuss wrote:
It's a matter of priorities. I need to simply play and stop caring about my Elo, to which dodging is antithetical. It's all the better if there's some oddball in the game because then I'll learn to stop worrying and love the Elo bomb. If I spent four hours not playing because of dodges I'd only be hurting my goals.

If you're really set on gaining Elo or loath not playing to the meta/trolls, then dodging makes sense.


Aren't you semi-nervous about having to play a ton more matches if you do poorly in placements though?

I went 0-2 my first two ranked, despite tryharding and playing well. It frustrated me and I'm a little scared of dropping low in placements, as it means having to grind out 10x the amount of games to get where I started :/


The tryharding you mention is part of the problem I had last season. I got too caught up in playing the right champions, fitting the right role, building the right items etc. and ended up in my own private mental echo chamber. I became afraid to experiment because tryharding brought me to that point, and to stop could have cost me everything*. It's possible to focus on a few champions, even tryhard champions, and improve at the game, but not when you're afraid of your own Elo like I was.

So I'm not nervous because my goals only indirectly relate to Elo. My starting point is my current skill level, and I'm only going to have to climb back up to this point if I allow myself to give in to my egotistical fears and avoid queuing. The more games I play, at whatever Elo, the better.

*Not that anything I considered "everything" at the time really mattered.


Ah, gotcha. Well, best of luck. I'm going to try and have a similar mindset, but focus more on my basics than experimentation.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
November 15 2012 03:32 GMT
#929
swain so strong
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 15 2012 03:35 GMT
#930
On November 15 2012 12:21 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 12:18 LaNague wrote:
well, only one team can win ipl, so they actually only need one korean team.

:p

Blaze still have to deal with M5, TPA, and CLG.EU, it's not an assured victory. But I would bet there are probably 2nd favorite behind TPA.


Yango and I are betting on a 1-2 TPA WE.

G_G
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Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
November 15 2012 03:36 GMT
#931
On November 15 2012 12:16 NeoIllusions wrote:
IPL doesn't need more than one slot for Koreans tbh. Like onlywonderboy said, it's an NA tournament. It's cheaper for IGN to fund more NA teams for an NA event. o_o

There is no doubt it's cheaper for them but there comes the question of quality. You can easily say it's cheaper for IPL to just host qualifiers for a full NA tournament but how interesting would they be when all of them roll over and get stomped by the Troika and we get the same old TSM, CLG, Dig top 3 again.

By contrast we get far greater competition with international teams. TPA is the world champion; WE looks really strong lately, stomping top Korean teams like Najin and KT(?); Azubu Blaze has yet to drop a series to a NA team.
I wish China and Korea got a second qualifier so we could have iG and Azubu Frost as well.

From EU we have the legendary M5; Curse EU who just won TotL with a convincing demolition of M5; ATN with the world's highest ELO player and CLG.eu who always plays epic games with their NA counterpart.

I am not familiar enough with the audience of IPL but judging from TL posts there is definitely interest in seeing top quality competition which Asia and EU bring.
Goragoth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
New Zealand1065 Posts
November 15 2012 03:37 GMT
#932
On November 15 2012 12:21 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 12:18 LaNague wrote:
well, only one team can win ipl, so they actually only need one korean team.

:p

Blaze still have to deal with M5, TPA, and CLG.EU, it's not an assured victory. But I would bet there are probably 2nd favorite behind TPA.

WE is also going to be there, I'd certainly consider them top contenders along with Blaze and TPA.
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Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
November 15 2012 03:38 GMT
#933
On November 15 2012 12:35 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 12:21 onlywonderboy wrote:
On November 15 2012 12:18 LaNague wrote:
well, only one team can win ipl, so they actually only need one korean team.

:p

Blaze still have to deal with M5, TPA, and CLG.EU, it's not an assured victory. But I would bet there are probably 2nd favorite behind TPA.


Yango and I are betting on a 1-2 TPA WE.

G_G

Who's betting on WE winning ?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 15 2012 03:40 GMT
#934
But who would you take a qualifier away from then?
I'm pretty damn happy with the participants of IPL5 as is. :O
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Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
November 15 2012 03:42 GMT
#935
On November 15 2012 12:40 NeoIllusions wrote:
But who would you take a qualifier away from then?
I'm pretty damn happy with the participants of IPL5 as is. :O

As it is it's too late to change anything. However I would have liked 3 qualifier spots for NA and EU each and then 2 qualifier spots for the rest.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 15 2012 03:42 GMT
#936
On November 15 2012 12:38 Kavas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 12:35 NeoIllusions wrote:
On November 15 2012 12:21 onlywonderboy wrote:
On November 15 2012 12:18 LaNague wrote:
well, only one team can win ipl, so they actually only need one korean team.

:p

Blaze still have to deal with M5, TPA, and CLG.EU, it's not an assured victory. But I would bet there are probably 2nd favorite behind TPA.


Yango and I are betting on a 1-2 TPA WE.

G_G

Who's betting on WE winning ?


dat yanger es huge WE fan but I don't know if he think WE can top TPA yet. "They need more experience" -Yango speaking of WE. :O They need to solidify that roster first and foremost.

I'm most interested in the EU scene. S2 was all about the M5/CLG.eu story. Will we have a breakout showing from either of the other two EU teams? EC already did rather impressive at TotL.

NA, I'm only excited for CLG.na but even then I think they also need a lot more time. ;_; Alas, a fan can dream...
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-15 03:44:51
November 15 2012 03:43 GMT
#937
On November 15 2012 12:42 Kavas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 12:40 NeoIllusions wrote:
But who would you take a qualifier away from then?
I'm pretty damn happy with the participants of IPL5 as is. :O

As it is it's too late to change anything. However I would have liked 3 qualifier spots for NA and EU each and then 2 qualifier spots for the rest.


Maybe for IPL6. :3

P.S. who da fk is going to breakout for NA and when? >____>
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
November 15 2012 03:54 GMT
#938
On November 15 2012 12:43 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 12:42 Kavas wrote:
On November 15 2012 12:40 NeoIllusions wrote:
But who would you take a qualifier away from then?
I'm pretty damn happy with the participants of IPL5 as is. :O

As it is it's too late to change anything. However I would have liked 3 qualifier spots for NA and EU each and then 2 qualifier spots for the rest.


Maybe for IPL6. :3

P.S. who da fk is going to breakout for NA and when? >____>

It'll have to be after the Season 3 Salaries start etc.

The biggest issue is the lack of good fulltime pros.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-15 03:56:47
November 15 2012 03:54 GMT
#939
I just want to try Zed out in ranked while my gf is using my xbox to play LFD2(so I cant play Halo right now) and everyone keeps que dodging cause I've never played him before . Me actually trying on Zed can't be that bad.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
November 15 2012 03:54 GMT
#940
I predicted TPA winners of s2 yet nobody gave me any recognition!
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
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