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Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-15 00:06:39
November 15 2012 00:06 GMT
#881
On November 15 2012 08:54 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 08:42 adriftt wrote:
On November 15 2012 08:40 onlywonderboy wrote:
I'm so excited for IPL5. Got some lane duck NA teams like TD and MP, but the international presence is pretty insane.


I'm excited to but I gotta say Korea only having one qualifier spot is a little crazy. Especially considering SEA and TW get two each. Also really hope CLG.NA makes it.

Yeah, Korea probably deserved two spots over those two regions. Still, the amount of foreign talent at a US LoL tournament is pretty impressive.


EU and NA (CLG.EU and m5 excluding) are just so far away from the top Korean teams.
Watching the IPL broadcast atm and while the games are really entertaining with tons of kills and Eclypsia's champions, their gameplay seems so so sloppy. Everyone is making way too many mistakes, they seem really undecisive at engaging, pushing advantages, getting objectives. They are miles away from the hivemind teamplay by the Azubus, Najins, TPA (CLG.EU, M5).
And the teams, that played in the tournament were at this tournament in Paris, too. So they are representing the very top of the European scene.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
November 15 2012 00:11 GMT
#882
On November 15 2012 07:15 Dark_Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 05:40 Sufficiency wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/136yck/champion_splash_art_sfw/

I really like the Ahri and Miss Fortune modified splashes. Riot pl0x.


All good except for the Cass one, just looks so weird to me.


the morgana one is sweet, def selling skin if they wanted i bet
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-15 00:18:43
November 15 2012 00:13 GMT
#883
On November 15 2012 09:06 Don_Julio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 08:54 onlywonderboy wrote:
On November 15 2012 08:42 adriftt wrote:
On November 15 2012 08:40 onlywonderboy wrote:
I'm so excited for IPL5. Got some lane duck NA teams like TD and MP, but the international presence is pretty insane.


I'm excited to but I gotta say Korea only having one qualifier spot is a little crazy. Especially considering SEA and TW get two each. Also really hope CLG.NA makes it.

Yeah, Korea probably deserved two spots over those two regions. Still, the amount of foreign talent at a US LoL tournament is pretty impressive.


EU and NA (CLG.EU and m5 excluding) are just so far away from the top Korean teams.
Watching the IPL broadcast atm and while the games are really entertaining with tons of kills and Eclypsia's champions, their gameplay seems so so sloppy. Everyone is making way too many mistakes, they seem really undecisive at engaging, pushing advantages, getting objectives. They are miles away from the hivemind teamplay by the Azubus, Najins, TPA (CLG.EU, M5).
And the teams, that played in the tournament were at this tournament in Paris, too. So they are representing the very top of the European scene.

M5 got beaten pretty hard by Eclypsia on LAN this week end. And EC got beaten in finals by Crs EU. The EU scene isn't only CLG.EU and M5, they are just the most visible.
The legend of Darien lives on
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
November 15 2012 00:14 GMT
#884
On November 15 2012 09:11 CeriseCherries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 07:15 Dark_Chill wrote:
On November 15 2012 05:40 Sufficiency wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/136yck/champion_splash_art_sfw/

I really like the Ahri and Miss Fortune modified splashes. Riot pl0x.


All good except for the Cass one, just looks so weird to me.


the morgana one is sweet, def selling skin if they wanted i bet


Morgana and Ahri are the only ones that look ok, all the others... meh.
Why is Janna entering the battlefield in her pyjamas?
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-15 00:20:10
November 15 2012 00:19 GMT
#885
On November 15 2012 08:39 Mondeezy wrote:
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On November 15 2012 08:16 Seuss wrote:
It's a matter of priorities. I need to simply play and stop caring about my Elo, to which dodging is antithetical. It's all the better if there's some oddball in the game because then I'll learn to stop worrying and love the Elo bomb. If I spent four hours not playing because of dodges I'd only be hurting my goals.

If you're really set on gaining Elo or loath not playing to the meta/trolls, then dodging makes sense.


Aren't you semi-nervous about having to play a ton more matches if you do poorly in placements though?

I went 0-2 my first two ranked, despite tryharding and playing well. It frustrated me and I'm a little scared of dropping low in placements, as it means having to grind out 10x the amount of games to get where I started :/


The tryharding you mention is part of the problem I had last season. I got too caught up in playing the right champions, fitting the right role, building the right items etc. and ended up in my own private mental echo chamber. I became afraid to experiment because tryharding brought me to that point, and to stop could have cost me everything*. It's possible to focus on a few champions, even tryhard champions, and improve at the game, but not when you're afraid of your own Elo like I was.

So I'm not nervous because my goals only indirectly relate to Elo. My starting point is my current skill level, and I'm only going to have to climb back up to this point if I allow myself to give in to my egotistical fears and avoid queuing. The more games I play, at whatever Elo, the better.

*Not that anything I considered "everything" at the time really mattered.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 15 2012 00:25 GMT
#886
On November 15 2012 09:11 CeriseCherries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 07:15 Dark_Chill wrote:
On November 15 2012 05:40 Sufficiency wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/136yck/champion_splash_art_sfw/

I really like the Ahri and Miss Fortune modified splashes. Riot pl0x.


All good except for the Cass one, just looks so weird to me.


the morgana one is sweet, def selling skin if they wanted i bet


Guys... how can you say that to my Ahri?
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 15 2012 00:34 GMT
#887
On November 15 2012 06:04 TheYango wrote:
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On November 15 2012 05:55 Sufficiency wrote:
If it works on all of Ashe's shots, then it will solve a lot of Ashe's problems. Actually it might make her a bit overpowered.

I don't see what it solves that Volley doesn't.

Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 05:59 TheSinisterRed wrote:
Will this item work with Twisted Fate's pick a card? If that counts as an on-hit could he stun 3 people at once, or regen 3 times the mana?

On-next-attack on-hit procs presumably still will only proc on the main hit, because the proc will be consumed when the main hit connects, and the 2 secondary bolts won't have any on-hit to use.


Volley has a 4 seconds cooldown and her slow is only 2 seconds.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 15 2012 00:35 GMT
#888
http://www.reignofgaming.net/redtracker/topic/83569-item-preview-the-storm

Xyph started answering questions about Hurricane.

-Pick A Card only applies to first target, so no 3 man stuns
-Twitch ult only makes regular attack pierce, secondary bolts from Hurricane are just normal
-On Next attack modifiers (Pick A Card, Spinning Axe, Ricochet) only apply to first target
-Kog W affects all targets (shit son)
-Phage proc "rolls" on each target, so it has a chance to slow all 3 or only 1
-Secondary bolts DO proc Thornmail/Warden's Mail, so be careful

Corki might be the most crazy with this. You already have good AoE, and now your "10% extra damage as true damage" can be applied to 2 more people per shot. Crazy stuff.
It's your boy Guzma!
sharky246
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1197 Posts
November 15 2012 00:36 GMT
#889
On November 15 2012 08:42 adriftt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 08:40 onlywonderboy wrote:
I'm so excited for IPL5. Got some lane duck NA teams like TD and MP, but the international presence is pretty insane.


I'm excited to but I gotta say Korea only having one qualifier spot is a little crazy. Especially considering SEA and TW get two each. Also really hope CLG.NA makes it.

unfair much? i hope the community voices their concerns about it.
On January 03 2011 13:14 IdrA wrote: being high on the ladder doesnt get you any closer to your goal. Avoiding practice to protect your rating is absurd. If you want to be good go play 40 games a day and stop thinking about becoming a pro.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
November 15 2012 00:44 GMT
#890
Did anyone watch the IEM Cologne Na qualifiers? Crs put up a pretty good fight with roaming Lee and Voyboy on Gragas even though they had to sub in Westrice for Nyjacky. My boys lost in the end though
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-15 01:04:47
November 15 2012 01:02 GMT
#891
On November 15 2012 09:34 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 06:04 TheYango wrote:
On November 15 2012 05:55 Sufficiency wrote:
If it works on all of Ashe's shots, then it will solve a lot of Ashe's problems. Actually it might make her a bit overpowered.

I don't see what it solves that Volley doesn't.

On November 15 2012 05:59 TheSinisterRed wrote:
Will this item work with Twisted Fate's pick a card? If that counts as an on-hit could he stun 3 people at once, or regen 3 times the mana?

On-next-attack on-hit procs presumably still will only proc on the main hit, because the proc will be consumed when the main hit connects, and the 2 secondary bolts won't have any on-hit to use.


Volley has a 4 seconds cooldown and her slow is only 2 seconds.

And again, if you're at the point where multiple threats that you need to kite are going to stay within 600 range of you, it's very likely going to be a problem that those 2 secondary bolts won't solve. 600 range is more or less engagement range for most melees. You can kite one melee after they blow their gap closer and their initial round of skills and kite their sustained damage. It's not going to happen that way for 2-3 melees--not because you don't have the ability to slow them, but because if 2+ melees are actually capable of engaging on you, 2-3 champion's worth of initial burst will kill you regardless. You won't get to kite anyway.

Ashe's problems generally are not such that kiting multiple things at AA range is actually going to fix her issues.
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Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
November 15 2012 01:07 GMT
#892
There's something super-wrong since the last 2 patches, I've been getting FPS lag and disconnects regularly...
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 15 2012 01:10 GMT
#893
just lost game for my team on dan dinh stream np
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-15 01:11:22
November 15 2012 01:10 GMT
#894
My new AD carry build is zerk greaves, 4x doran blades, then hurricane.

gonna destroy people who have like a naked infinity edge at 20 minutes.

after that, all i need is the new black cleaver, a 25 arpen runepage, a last whisper, and a blood thirster. will be the funniest thing ever.
edit: because % goes before flat huehuehuehuehuehuehue
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
November 15 2012 01:13 GMT
#895
On November 15 2012 09:44 Slow Motion wrote:
Did anyone watch the IEM Cologne Na qualifiers? Crs put up a pretty good fight with roaming Lee and Voyboy on Gragas even though they had to sub in Westrice for Nyjacky. My boys lost in the end though

Watched the 3rd game, tbh I am pretty dissapointed by both team's performance. In the end it was the one that suck less take the win. Curse has like no game plan at all vs a super late game team comp from Fear, while Fear just rely on Crs's stupid mistake to make it into late game.

Pretty terrible game overall -_-.
Terran
Skithiryx
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia648 Posts
November 15 2012 01:14 GMT
#896
On November 15 2012 09:35 Requizen wrote:
http://www.reignofgaming.net/redtracker/topic/83569-item-preview-the-storm

Xyph started answering questions about Hurricane.

-Pick A Card only applies to first target, so no 3 man stuns
-Twitch ult only makes regular attack pierce, secondary bolts from Hurricane are just normal
-On Next attack modifiers (Pick A Card, Spinning Axe, Ricochet) only apply to first target
-Kog W affects all targets (shit son)
-Phage proc "rolls" on each target, so it has a chance to slow all 3 or only 1
-Secondary bolts DO proc Thornmail/Warden's Mail, so be careful

Corki might be the most crazy with this. You already have good AoE, and now your "10% extra damage as true damage" can be applied to 2 more people per shot. Crazy stuff.


Kog'Maw is going to be insane, instead of rushing PD just rush Hurricane and proceed to be a DPS monster from 15 minutes in.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 15 2012 01:16 GMT
#897
On November 15 2012 09:35 Requizen wrote:
http://www.reignofgaming.net/redtracker/topic/83569-item-preview-the-storm

Xyph started answering questions about Hurricane.

-Pick A Card only applies to first target, so no 3 man stuns
-Twitch ult only makes regular attack pierce, secondary bolts from Hurricane are just normal
-On Next attack modifiers (Pick A Card, Spinning Axe, Ricochet) only apply to first target
-Kog W affects all targets (shit son)
-Phage proc "rolls" on each target, so it has a chance to slow all 3 or only 1
-Secondary bolts DO proc Thornmail/Warden's Mail, so be careful

Corki might be the most crazy with this. You already have good AoE, and now your "10% extra damage as true damage" can be applied to 2 more people per shot. Crazy stuff.

Sounds like new MBR and hurricane are going be absolutely broken as shit on Koggles.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 15 2012 01:22 GMT
#898
Also about Corki:

Hextech Shrapnel is based off your total attack damage, so it applies 10% of his total attack damage.


10% total AD as true damage on 3 targets, not reduced by half on the secondary targets. New BC + Corki shred + Hurricane + passive = 3 dead people in seconds.
It's your boy Guzma!
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
November 15 2012 01:24 GMT
#899
On November 15 2012 10:13 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 09:44 Slow Motion wrote:
Did anyone watch the IEM Cologne Na qualifiers? Crs put up a pretty good fight with roaming Lee and Voyboy on Gragas even though they had to sub in Westrice for Nyjacky. My boys lost in the end though

Watched the 3rd game, tbh I am pretty dissapointed by both team's performance. In the end it was the one that suck less take the win. Curse has like no game plan at all vs a super late game team comp from Fear, while Fear just rely on Crs's stupid mistake to make it into late game.

Pretty terrible game overall -_-.

C'mon now, can't blame Crs too much considering they were missing one of their best players in Nyjacky, and had to shuffle around roles quite a bit, playing around with an improvised team comp I doubt they practiced.
Arekan
Profile Joined February 2011
United States248 Posts
November 15 2012 01:25 GMT
#900
Time to start mastering Corki at the rate these changes are going it seems.
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