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[Patch 1.0.0.151: End of S2] General Discussion - Page 21

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jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
November 13 2012 19:30 GMT
#401
On November 14 2012 04:26 BlackPaladin wrote:
Okay so they refuse to leash and now you're back to the beginning where you now can't leash anyway. Your point? Leashing was a good thing and to remove it is silly. It's like removing mineral jumping with a probe in sc. It changes the game but not for the better. :/


There is a big difference between not getting a leash when the jungle and your runes/items are made under the assumption that you will get one vs not getting one when the jungle and your items are designed with that in mind and the other jungler doesn't get one either.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 13 2012 19:31 GMT
#402
On November 14 2012 04:26 BlackPaladin wrote:
Okay so they refuse to leash and now you're back to the beginning where you now can't leash anyway. Your point? Leashing was a good thing and to remove it is silly. It's like removing mineral jumping with a probe in sc. It changes the game but not for the better. :/

Yeah, but not for the worse either. I think we tend to get all morose about changes for no good reason, if they balance the new jungle around not having a leash (but easier if your team lays down some damage for you), then it'll be fine in the new scenario, especially since it looks like a lot of junglers will be starting Hunter's Machete anyway.
It's your boy Guzma!
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-13 19:34:32
November 13 2012 19:34 GMT
#403
As long as jungle camps spawn the time they do, laners will always be around to basically kill it for you, and give a huge disadvantage to junglers who don't get the same help. The only way they can "fix" that is to have a bigger tradeoff for your laner to stick around, i.e. buffs spawn at 2:00 or later.
adriftt
Profile Joined March 2012
335 Posts
November 13 2012 19:34 GMT
#404
On November 14 2012 04:28 Mondeezy wrote:
Anyone else nervous to get matched with some trolls today? Placement matches 2scary.


most people are super tryhard mode because they want to win their placements. most trolls are pussies and scared to lose ELO when it comes down to it
Thermia
Profile Joined August 2010
United States866 Posts
November 13 2012 19:40 GMT
#405
playin with some soniv on smurf right now if no one dodges D:
Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling. IGN: Mierin
jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
November 13 2012 19:40 GMT
#406
On November 14 2012 04:34 adriftt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 04:28 Mondeezy wrote:
Anyone else nervous to get matched with some trolls today? Placement matches 2scary.


most people are super tryhard mode because they want to win their placements. most trolls are pussies and scared to lose ELO when it comes down to it


Well there are 2 types of trolls. The much more common kind that go into a game looking to win but get upset and troll will probably be less prevalent right now. The rarer type that go into a game looking to make their team lose I would think would be more prevalent.
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-13 19:54:11
November 13 2012 19:53 GMT
#407
I kinda dislike the placement matches, because 10 games are a too small sample size. you can either spike over or under your comfortable elo and both cases are bad.

1. you get way lower elo: now you need to play a ton of games to carry yourself up to a comfortable elo.
2. you get way higher elo: you will get raped for the majority of games and get frustrated because everyone is better than you.

in both cases its less fun for you, your teammates and your opponents, which is a worst case scenario when playing a game.

The whole idea of a fresh start and huge spikes in elo is kinda fun but it should last way longer. like 30 games or something. 30 games is still hell of a small sample in a 5on5 teamgame but at least you have some kind of buffer.
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
November 13 2012 19:53 GMT
#408
In my latest ranked game I knew we were going to lose because Rammus absolutely flipped out when mid accidentally took a wolf. Refused to gank top or mid for the bad leash. There are some negative sides to the leash too... there are few things that make me feel like a game could be lost as a blue reset on a weaker jungler and everyone has left for lane.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 13 2012 20:01 GMT
#409
LOL 1350 RP for Dragontrainer Lulu. Total BS.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 13 2012 20:06 GMT
#410
On November 14 2012 05:01 Sufficiency wrote:
LOL 1350 RP for Dragontrainer Lulu. Total BS.

What? That's really dumb.

Even the Bioforge Darius isn't worth 975, it's really bad looking imo
It's your boy Guzma!
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
November 13 2012 20:07 GMT
#411
i always hate it when junglers go on tilt and say "fine i won't gank your lane then."

i dunno about you guys but when i jungle, i gank when the opportunity opens up, not because someone asks me to. and i do it for myself because i like kills and assists and breaking the enemy's spirit, not because i want to help the lane.

i mean, what else are you gonna do as a jungler? kill more wraiths for 60g? try to gank a lane when you know the opportunity isn't there?

Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
November 13 2012 20:11 GMT
#412
i got reset near 2k elo wtf lol
Hey! Listen!
HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
November 13 2012 20:11 GMT
#413
Has anyone tried Zed yet?
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
November 13 2012 20:13 GMT
#414
On November 14 2012 04:28 Mondeezy wrote:
Anyone else nervous to get matched with some trolls today? Placement matches 2scary.


Just got matched with an ignite ghost leona who argued in champ select that hes going top while garen is a support and should go bot. That (unsurprisingly) got dodged tho.
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 13 2012 20:15 GMT
#415
On November 14 2012 04:53 clickrush wrote:
I kinda dislike the placement matches, because 10 games are a too small sample size. you can either spike over or under your comfortable elo and both cases are bad.

1. you get way lower elo: now you need to play a ton of games to carry yourself up to a comfortable elo.
2. you get way higher elo: you will get raped for the majority of games and get frustrated because everyone is better than you.

in both cases its less fun for you, your teammates and your opponents, which is a worst case scenario when playing a game.

The whole idea of a fresh start and huge spikes in elo is kinda fun but it should last way longer. like 30 games or something. 30 games is still hell of a small sample in a 5on5 teamgame but at least you have some kind of buffer.


People don't really seem to get that the 10 placement are just hwo long it take for your elo to show up in your profile. You're still getting boosted elo well into 50 games played.
As far as I remember, it works something like this:
+/-45 elo until ~ 15 games
+/-30ish until 20-25
+/-17-20 until 40
and then eventually flattening out at 11-14.
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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-13 20:17:05
November 13 2012 20:16 GMT
#416
do you not get the friend list border for season 2? any announcements regarding the season 1 icons yet also?
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
November 13 2012 20:16 GMT
#417
Hey guys, I'd like to crowd source some opinions for my Lux build.

What do you think is better for early game, just in general:

MR blues, get 2 dorans rings and then build big items

OR

AP blues, get 1 dorans ring and a chalice and then build big items

Note that I mean in general, not vs. specific matchups where I might want more MR than usual (like vs. Leblanc)

Discuss!
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22450 Posts
November 13 2012 20:19 GMT
#418
On November 14 2012 05:13 Louuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 04:28 Mondeezy wrote:
Anyone else nervous to get matched with some trolls today? Placement matches 2scary.


Just got matched with an ignite ghost leona who argued in champ select that hes going top while garen is a support and should go bot. That (unsurprisingly) got dodged tho.


Pff Solo top Leona is totaly legit! i played it season 1 for lolz :p
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
November 13 2012 20:20 GMT
#419
On November 14 2012 05:11 HeroHenry wrote:
Has anyone tried Zed yet?

Tried him on PBE and honestly don't quite get his kit. Too confusing for me.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 13 2012 20:21 GMT
#420
On November 14 2012 04:40 Thermia wrote:
playin with some soniv on smurf right now if no one dodges D:


wait wat hoo dafuq r u
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
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