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[Patch 1.0.0.151: End of S2] General Discussion - Page 22
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seRapH
United States9706 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
Was wondering that myself. Dude you should totally duo with me later so we can have more frustraingly awesome games. | ||
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Baffels
United States1486 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On November 14 2012 05:23 seRapH wrote: I've just been rushing grail on lux. CDR is really important on her. Page is mpen-mp5/lv-ap/lv-ap I usually rush dcap and then go for grail/lichbane/zhonya/voidstaff in whatever order I think is appropriate for the game. Lichbane first usually if I'm getting constant blue buffs or if I'm fed, grail otherwise. But I was thinking if I got the early chalice instead of the second dorans ring, and switched my MR blues out for AP blues, I'd have more MR and more regen and about the same AP and only lose out on 80 health. Good idea? | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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JokerSan
United States306 Posts
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On November 14 2012 05:28 Baffels wrote: Anyone got a link to the new items/item changes in this new patch? I can only find the ones added to TT and Dominion. No new items on SR. That stuff is coming later(tm). | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Also he eats every Blitz hook and Gragas ult that gets thrown his way, so the lack of escape is showing.  At least Talon can ult if there's no oracle, Akali can shroud, Katarina can shunpo away and putting a Diana in the middle of your team can be a free engage for them. But Zed? W-W seems too long to go less than a flash distance away, and he gets exploded.Haha yeah their team is awful. They're playing AP bruiser Elise and assassin Zed and they get hooked all the time. They also totally missed their chance at a midgame timing. I'm always sad when I see people that pick champs without having any idea what they're going to do, with regards to the game flow.  | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On November 14 2012 05:38 BlackPaladin wrote: What's funny is riot used to allow champs all kinds of build paths. Look at sion for instance. Or poppy that can be played AP or AD. But nowadays riot always tries to turn a champ into a one role wonder and then instead of a support they create an AP mid or visa versa then get all angry and nerf irelia. Well to be fair Irelia is a pretty broken champ. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On November 14 2012 05:38 BlackPaladin wrote: What's funny is riot used to allow champs all kinds of build paths. Look at sion for instance. Or poppy that can be played AP or AD. But nowadays riot always tries to turn a champ into a one role wonder and then instead of a support they create an AP mid or visa versa then get all angry and nerf irelia. My sentiments as well. I'm hoping that new item and mastery itemization brings new life into the game, cause it's getting relatively stale right now. Everyone seems to build like the same set of items, and every champ in the same role is to be played the same damn way. Need something fresh, something new. But still nerf Irelia. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On November 14 2012 04:31 Requizen wrote: Yeah, but not for the worse either. I think we tend to get all morose about changes for no good reason, if they balance the new jungle around not having a leash (but easier if your team lays down some damage for you), then it'll be fine in the new scenario, especially since it looks like a lot of junglers will be starting Hunter's Machete anyway. This isn't about balance, it's about teamwork and teaching tools. Adjusting the jungle to account for the lack of leashing is simple. Replacing a mechanic which served as an organic way to make players work as a team, and teach them something at the same time, is not. The jungle will be "fine", the sky won't fall, and we won't wake up one morning with a hangover and a sleeping Teemo in our bed. However, that doesn't mean any and all concerns regarding the upcoming changes should be disregarded as apocalyptic hallucinations. Stopping the odd troll (I'm not even sure how you intentionally screw up a leash for someone if you aren't Singed/Blitz) isn't worth the loss of this mechanic. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 14 2012 05:32 JokerSan wrote: When he had real AP ratios he was actually a decent top laner. But riot says nope gotta pidgeon hole champions into one role only and nerfed him real good. Well, his AP ratios are decent (759 + 2.1 AP burst combo), and he's tanky as hell with free armor, good base stats, and heal. Mostly I just want to try it to fuck with people and so I can justify buying Fabulous Taric. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
On November 14 2012 05:54 Seuss wrote: This isn't about balance, it's about teamwork and teaching tools. Adjusting the jungle to account for the lack of leashing is simple. Replacing a mechanic which served as an organic way to make players work as a team, and teach them something at the same time, is not. The jungle will be "fine", the sky won't fall, and we won't wake up one morning with a hangover and a sleeping Teemo in our bed. However, that doesn't mean any and all concerns regarding the upcoming changes should be disregarded as apocalyptic hallucinations. Stopping the odd troll (I'm not even sure how you intentionally screw up a leash for someone if you aren't Singed/Blitz) isn't worth the loss of this mechanic. I'd say ~ 12-1500 50% of my leashes get screwed up by the mid sticking around too long just autoing, or something. | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On November 14 2012 05:54 Seuss wrote: Stopping the odd troll (I'm not even sure how you intentionally screw up a leash for someone if you aren't Singed/Blitz) isn't worth the loss of this mechanic. i wonder if people get tired of my posts about syndra... | ||
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MeriaDoKk
Chile1726 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 14 2012 05:54 Seuss wrote: This isn't about balance, it's about teamwork and teaching tools. Adjusting the jungle to account for the lack of leashing is simple. Replacing a mechanic which served as an organic way to make players work as a team, and teach them something at the same time, is not. The jungle will be "fine", the sky won't fall, and we won't wake up one morning with a hangover and a sleeping Teemo in our bed. However, that doesn't mean any and all concerns regarding the upcoming changes should be disregarded as apocalyptic hallucinations. Stopping the odd troll (I'm not even sure how you intentionally screw up a leash for someone if you aren't Singed/Blitz) isn't worth the loss of this mechanic. It's not really teamworking though. Most mids, unless otherwise asked, just hit the thing once and then leave. It doesn't suddenly incentivize (I'm pretty sure that's not a word though) them to come help fight off invasion and counter jungling (most laners will just continue CSing even if you start fighting the other jungler in your own jungle), it doesn't make their ganks or setups better. It's not a teamwork building exercise, it's just something mid players know they have to do at the start of the match to avoid being bitched out. It won't stop them from raging at you if your gank fails or if they get camped. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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