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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 13 2012 21:40 GMT
#461
On November 14 2012 06:18 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 06:03 Requizen wrote:
On November 14 2012 06:01 AsnSensation wrote:
ok today i learned that wukong dunks on vlad pretty hard, went like 0/6 in lane xD felt so bad for the others, because you know placement matches, npnp farm abit and use ult on 4 ppl gg, I only picked vlad into an to me unknown matchup because I saw that we have anivia mid, amumu jungle and sona/ez bot. wombooo comboo

I've been trying to learn Vlad lately to expand my top selection (and maybe mids). The one thing that I've noticed: Fuck anyone who has a gap closer, they make my life hell and I spend pretty much 1-9 hugging my tower and pooling.


I actually can't play a single AP champion to save my life.


Learning Morg + Karth is easy and gives you two good choices.
Also Singed if that counts.
Freeeeeeedom
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 13 2012 21:41 GMT
#462
The one mastery we are adding specifically gold related in Utility is a mastery called "Pickpocket" that grants gold upon attacking an enemy champion. This will allow active supports a bit more gold while harassing their opponents, while also being useful for other character types that spec into deep into Utility.


Support Janna weeps.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 13 2012 21:42 GMT
#463
On November 14 2012 06:41 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
The one mastery we are adding specifically gold related in Utility is a mastery called "Pickpocket" that grants gold upon attacking an enemy champion. This will allow active supports a bit more gold while harassing their opponents, while also being useful for other character types that spec into deep into Utility.


Support Janna weeps.

Why are you not throwing tornadoes at people?
It's your boy Guzma!
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-13 21:45:06
November 13 2012 21:44 GMT
#464
Support Janna shields herself and beats the crap out of someone, then runs back into the bush. Filthy gold thief.

EDIT: I haven't played Janna in a while. I assume she still goes 9 offense for the extra damage from shielded autos?
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
November 13 2012 21:45 GMT
#465
On November 14 2012 06:41 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
The one mastery we are adding specifically gold related in Utility is a mastery called "Pickpocket" that grants gold upon attacking an enemy champion. This will allow active supports a bit more gold while harassing their opponents, while also being useful for other character types that spec into deep into Utility.


Support Janna weeps.

Support janna is going to love this mastery.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 13 2012 21:46 GMT
#466
On November 14 2012 06:44 Sandster wrote:
Support Janna shields herself and beats the crap out of someone, then runs back into the bush. Filthy gold thief.

EDIT: I haven't played Janna in a while. I assume she still goes 9 offense for the extra damage from shielded autos?


Sure you could do that, but her range is abysmal compared to other ranged supports with the standard 550 range.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
November 13 2012 21:48 GMT
#467
The fuck. First ranked game of the season and a feeder and an afker in the same game...

My luck, it is bad

- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
November 13 2012 21:49 GMT
#468
Janna has pretty long AA range, I don't see the problem there. Basically the only support who can't AA much in lane is Leona, maybe Blitz.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 13 2012 21:49 GMT
#469
On November 14 2012 06:49 TheLink wrote:
Janna has pretty long AA range, I don't see the problem there. Basically the only support who can't AA much in lane is Leona, maybe Blitz.


475 = long?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 13 2012 21:49 GMT
#470
On November 14 2012 06:41 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
The one mastery we are adding specifically gold related in Utility is a mastery called "Pickpocket" that grants gold upon attacking an enemy champion. This will allow active supports a bit more gold while harassing their opponents, while also being useful for other character types that spec into deep into Utility.


Support Janna weeps.

Sona is happy. Ali or Leona? Not that much, esp. sun girl. Whenever she hits something it dies, she can't milk it.
Zed seemed pretty weak in lane from what I saw, being energy-based allowed him to stay and clear, but his harass is rather weak/limited unless you commit a whole lot of energy, and his burst with ult is definitely weaker than Talon's or even Pantheon's now that the %damage dealt has been reduced.

He also suffers from not having a gap closer outside of his ult (using W to gap close puts a dent on your harass). When I was watching him, I often told myself "wow, Diana or Talon could have done so much more here".


Also Wukong isn't harder than Irelia for Vlad. In Ire vs Vlad if one dis before 6 then the lane is pretty much over unless heavy jungler intervention happens (and if noone dies Irelia should take the advantage around level 7). Actually if Wukong doesn't get to smash Vlad (bait pool, use as many autos as you can, and pray you won't go oom before he's almost dead) early he'll just destroyed by Vlad's sustain later on.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-13 21:55:58
November 13 2012 21:51 GMT
#471
On November 14 2012 06:49 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 06:41 Sufficiency wrote:
The one mastery we are adding specifically gold related in Utility is a mastery called "Pickpocket" that grants gold upon attacking an enemy champion. This will allow active supports a bit more gold while harassing their opponents, while also being useful for other character types that spec into deep into Utility.


Support Janna weeps.

Sona is happy. Ali or Leona? Not that much, esp. sun girl. Whenever she hits something it dies, she can't milk it.
Zed seemed pretty weak in lane from what I saw, being energy-based allowed him to stay and clear, but his harass is rather weak/limited unless you commit a whole lot of energy, and his burst with ult is definitely weaker than Talon's or even Pantheon's now that the %damage dealt has been reduced.

He also suffers from not having a gap closer outside of his ult (using W to gap close puts a dent on your harass). When I was watching him, I often told myself "wow, Diana or Talon could have done so much more here".


Also Wukong isn't harder than Irelia for Vlad. In Ire vs Vlad if one dis before 6 then the lane is pretty much over unless heavy jungler intervention happens (and if noone dies Irelia should take the advantage around level 7). Actually if Wukong doesn't get to smash Vlad (bait pool, use as many autos as you can, and pray you won't go oom before he's almost dead) early he'll just destroyed by Vlad's sustain later on.


Leona and Alistar currently do not run deeply into the utility tree, and I don't see them going there in S3 either.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 13 2012 21:52 GMT
#472
On November 14 2012 06:49 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 06:41 Sufficiency wrote:
The one mastery we are adding specifically gold related in Utility is a mastery called "Pickpocket" that grants gold upon attacking an enemy champion. This will allow active supports a bit more gold while harassing their opponents, while also being useful for other character types that spec into deep into Utility.


Support Janna weeps.

Sona is happy. Ali or Leona? Not that much, esp. sun girl. Whenever she hits something it dies, she can't milk it.

They specifically said that the gold reward will be higher for melee, who have to make a larger risk to deal damage with autos. This pleases Taric.
It's your boy Guzma!
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
November 13 2012 21:54 GMT
#473
support ashe viable now?!
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
November 13 2012 21:54 GMT
#474
A lot depends on the definition of "attacks" and the among of gold given by this new mastery.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
November 13 2012 21:56 GMT
#475
This Zed guy seems like he could be a sick mid. It's like Kat but a more versatile shunpo and no resets.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 13 2012 21:56 GMT
#476
On November 14 2012 06:54 Seuss wrote:
A lot depends on the definition of "attacks" and the among of gold given by this new mastery.


I am guessing 2gold per hit for ranged, 4-5 for melee.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 13 2012 21:57 GMT
#477
On November 14 2012 06:56 Diamond wrote:
This Zed guy seems like he could be a sick mid. It's like Kat but a more versatile shunpo and no resets.

But resets are the best part of Kat...

Plus resourceless > energy.
It's your boy Guzma!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 13 2012 21:57 GMT
#478
On November 14 2012 06:52 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 06:49 Alaric wrote:
On November 14 2012 06:41 Sufficiency wrote:
The one mastery we are adding specifically gold related in Utility is a mastery called "Pickpocket" that grants gold upon attacking an enemy champion. This will allow active supports a bit more gold while harassing their opponents, while also being useful for other character types that spec into deep into Utility.


Support Janna weeps.

Sona is happy. Ali or Leona? Not that much, esp. sun girl. Whenever she hits something it dies, she can't milk it.

They specifically said that the gold reward will be higher for melee, who have to make a larger risk to deal damage with autos. This pleases Taric.

Uh, faster way: do you happen to have a link? I'll sort it out myself then.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
November 13 2012 21:58 GMT
#479
On November 14 2012 06:57 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 06:56 Diamond wrote:
This Zed guy seems like he could be a sick mid. It's like Kat but a more versatile shunpo and no resets.

But resets are the best part of Kat...

Plus resourceless > energy.


Well I still think Kat is better, but he seems like he has some similarities that would work.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
November 13 2012 21:59 GMT
#480
On November 14 2012 06:52 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 06:49 Alaric wrote:
On November 14 2012 06:41 Sufficiency wrote:
The one mastery we are adding specifically gold related in Utility is a mastery called "Pickpocket" that grants gold upon attacking an enemy champion. This will allow active supports a bit more gold while harassing their opponents, while also being useful for other character types that spec into deep into Utility.


Support Janna weeps.

Sona is happy. Ali or Leona? Not that much, esp. sun girl. Whenever she hits something it dies, she can't milk it.

They specifically said that the gold reward will be higher for melee, who have to make a larger risk to deal damage with autos. This pleases Taric.


if this procs as an on-hit, support gp will have 27 back-to-back orgasms
cool beans
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