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On November 14 2012 03:07 sob3k wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 03:00 adriftt wrote:On November 14 2012 02:58 Requizen wrote:
I'm with Sandster on this one. I think you should have at least 1 that you're very comfortable with for each role, and maybe 3 overall that you can pick from for each role in case your one gets banned or is really weak vs the enemy. The other ones don't have to be your best, just passable. its def worth learning every role. you can specialize and have one role that you play a lot of heroes for but you should at least have 1-2 of every role you play well. you learn a lot about the game by playing other roles and champs. IE if you want to main top you should at least learn easy/strong heroes for other role. like pick up: Mid: Morg + TF or Ahri Jungle: Maokai + Lee or Skarner AD: Graves + Corki or Ez Support: Taric + Sona or Lulu The first listed one for each role is something that is really easy to play but very strong. As in you could play it for 5 games and be very comfortable on it. Second is something thats harder to play but can make a lot of plays once you get good at it. Rofl, making pro plays on Skarner? I think flash ult is about the pinnacle of his skill... I guess you could take it to the next level and add a shurelyas in there.
yeah obviously skarner isn't that hard to play but you need to at least get a feel for when to flash ult and such. also his pre-6 isnt as weak as people think.. you can abuse perma slow pretty hard, and he can make tons of plays especially in lower rating where people position badly and don't buy QSS
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Apparently, you can't see the other team's loading screen borders. So disappointed.
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On November 14 2012 03:14 Nikon wrote:
Apparently, you can't see the other team's loading screen borders. So disappointed.
Riot doesn't want "GG 4 opponents have gold borders and no one on ours does" at the start of the game (if this actually happens, consider that they were boosted)
And to people saying that leashing brought people together: not really. If you ever go into a low level game, get a "leash" that consists of a single autoattack from the same side of the camp followed by the camp resetting and then the mid laner crying for a gank 30 seconds later ... yeah. At higher levels you just need to stick around to help kill the camp (like wolves), and with the new hunter's machete item the end result will probably be around the same
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lol they put me down to 1482 wtf. time to get 300 ELOs after class~
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On November 14 2012 01:14 Roffles wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 01:12 sharky246 wrote:On November 14 2012 01:10 adriftt wrote:On November 14 2012 01:08 sharky246 wrote:On November 14 2012 01:02 adriftt wrote:On November 14 2012 00:57 Requizen wrote:On November 14 2012 00:49 NexRex wrote:
Took me fifteen minutes to get signed into it on NA and hardly anyone is on. Time to get away from ELO hell, as soon as I find a duo. Is it even going to matter? I thought ELO will get reset when S3 starts, or will your "hidden ELO" remain? ELO is reset now. If it works like S2, then "preseason" doesn't actually mean anything. For all intents and purposes, S3 starts today. They just like to call it preseason until the tournaments and game changes are all started. So does that mean progamers can be matched up against noobs who were like 1k elo previous season? No. It is not a full reset. I was around 2k and now I am 1600. People on my friends list that were around 2200 are now like 1670. If you were 1k ELO you are probably like 1100 now. So how do they determine where your starting elo for the new season? Looks like it's (ELO+1200)*0.5
that's very similar to my dick measurement formula. science, man... it's all reoccurring patterns.
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well at least they fixed "some" things with this patch, no more selecting a champion and having a 3-4 second loading lagg. Expecting lots of buggy stuff though.
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On November 14 2012 03:36 UniversalSnip wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 01:14 Roffles wrote:On November 14 2012 01:12 sharky246 wrote:On November 14 2012 01:10 adriftt wrote:On November 14 2012 01:08 sharky246 wrote:On November 14 2012 01:02 adriftt wrote:On November 14 2012 00:57 Requizen wrote:On November 14 2012 00:49 NexRex wrote:
Took me fifteen minutes to get signed into it on NA and hardly anyone is on. Time to get away from ELO hell, as soon as I find a duo. Is it even going to matter? I thought ELO will get reset when S3 starts, or will your "hidden ELO" remain? ELO is reset now. If it works like S2, then "preseason" doesn't actually mean anything. For all intents and purposes, S3 starts today. They just like to call it preseason until the tournaments and game changes are all started. So does that mean progamers can be matched up against noobs who were like 1k elo previous season? No. It is not a full reset. I was around 2k and now I am 1600. People on my friends list that were around 2200 are now like 1670. If you were 1k ELO you are probably like 1100 now. So how do they determine where your starting elo for the new season? Looks like it's (ELO+1200)*0.5 that's very similar to my dick measurement formula. science, man... it's all reoccurring patterns.
No units so I'm gonna assume millimeters.
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Do ranked games now count towards season 3? pre season start already? im confuesd QQ
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What is this? It was listed as a reward for season 2.
Gold summoner icon for each queue in which you are Gold tier
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On November 14 2012 03:43 jcc wrote:
Do ranked games now count towards season 3? pre season start already? im confuesd QQ
yes. its like last season, S3 has basically started they just call it pre-season until all of the gameplay cahnges go in
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On November 14 2012 03:07 sob3k wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 03:00 adriftt wrote:On November 14 2012 02:58 Requizen wrote:
I'm with Sandster on this one. I think you should have at least 1 that you're very comfortable with for each role, and maybe 3 overall that you can pick from for each role in case your one gets banned or is really weak vs the enemy. The other ones don't have to be your best, just passable. its def worth learning every role. you can specialize and have one role that you play a lot of heroes for but you should at least have 1-2 of every role you play well. you learn a lot about the game by playing other roles and champs. IE if you want to main top you should at least learn easy/strong heroes for other role. like pick up: Mid: Morg + TF or Ahri Jungle: Maokai + Lee or Skarner AD: Graves + Corki or Ez Support: Taric + Sona or Lulu The first listed one for each role is something that is really easy to play but very strong. As in you could play it for 5 games and be very comfortable on it. Second is something thats harder to play but can make a lot of plays once you get good at it. Rofl, making pro plays on Skarner? I think flash ult is about the pinnacle of his skill... I guess you could take it to the next level and add a shurelyas in there.
Two_Down is gone but the latent Skarner hate remains...
He is mechanically simple but I still think that playing a good skarner is difficult because initiating a teamfight with his ult can be tricky. And you cannot rely on constantly catching people out of position, so to be able to initiate with him is important I think.
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On November 14 2012 03:49 adriftt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 03:43 jcc wrote:
Do ranked games now count towards season 3? pre season start already? im confuesd QQ yes. its like last season, S3 has basically started they just call it pre-season until all of the gameplay cahnges go in
I think it has more to do with team points for World Championships, teams aren't going to earn anything until the actual Season 3 starts, but for normal people's ranked ELO it doesn't matter.
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On November 14 2012 03:30 thenexusp wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 03:14 Nikon wrote:
Apparently, you can't see the other team's loading screen borders. So disappointed. Riot doesn't want "GG 4 opponents have gold borders and no one on ours does" at the start of the game (if this actually happens, consider that they were boosted) And to people saying that leashing brought people together: not really. If you ever go into a low level game, get a "leash" that consists of a single autoattack from the same side of the camp followed by the camp resetting and then the mid laner crying for a gank 30 seconds later ... yeah. At higher levels you just need to stick around to help kill the camp (like wolves), and with the new hunter's machete item the end result will probably be around the same
My point wasn't that leashing was some kumbaya moment, but that it introduces the basic concept of "Huh, I can help my team" to new players and is surprisingly effective at doing so despite how acrimonious player-relations tend to be. Believe it or not the fundamental idea that you can and should look out for and assist your team is not something all new players, or even some not-so-new players, intrinsically know.
It's essentially the same as your mother reminding you to say "please" or "thank you" as a child. You don't really know, care, or understand why you're doing it or what it means, but by the time you're an adult you have at least some understanding of etiquette as a result.
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On November 14 2012 04:15 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 03:30 thenexusp wrote:On November 14 2012 03:14 Nikon wrote:
Apparently, you can't see the other team's loading screen borders. So disappointed. Riot doesn't want "GG 4 opponents have gold borders and no one on ours does" at the start of the game (if this actually happens, consider that they were boosted) And to people saying that leashing brought people together: not really. If you ever go into a low level game, get a "leash" that consists of a single autoattack from the same side of the camp followed by the camp resetting and then the mid laner crying for a gank 30 seconds later ... yeah. At higher levels you just need to stick around to help kill the camp (like wolves), and with the new hunter's machete item the end result will probably be around the same My point wasn't that leashing was some kumbaya moment, but that it introduces the basic concept of "Huh, I can help my team" to new players and is surprisingly effective at doing so despite how acrimonious player-relations tend to be. Believe it or not the fundamental idea that you can and should look out for and assist your team is not something all new players, or even some not-so-new players, intrinsically know. It's essentially the same as your mother reminding you to say "please" or "thank you" as a child. You don't really know, care, or understand why you're doing it or what it means, but by the time you're an adult you have at least some understanding of etiquette as a result.
Yes, but it's also going to remove the opposite. You're no longer going to have mids/ADs who refuse to leash out of spite because of something in champ select, or intentionally fuck it up for you. Honestly, those situations were even more detrimental to some junglers than an actual invade.
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Okay so they refuse to leash and now you're back to the beginning where you now can't leash anyway. Your point? Leashing was a good thing and to remove it is silly. It's like removing mineral jumping with a probe in sc. It changes the game but not for the better. :/
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On November 14 2012 03:43 obesechicken13 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 03:36 UniversalSnip wrote:On November 14 2012 01:14 Roffles wrote:On November 14 2012 01:12 sharky246 wrote:On November 14 2012 01:10 adriftt wrote:On November 14 2012 01:08 sharky246 wrote:On November 14 2012 01:02 adriftt wrote:On November 14 2012 00:57 Requizen wrote:On November 14 2012 00:49 NexRex wrote:
Took me fifteen minutes to get signed into it on NA and hardly anyone is on. Time to get away from ELO hell, as soon as I find a duo. Is it even going to matter? I thought ELO will get reset when S3 starts, or will your "hidden ELO" remain? ELO is reset now. If it works like S2, then "preseason" doesn't actually mean anything. For all intents and purposes, S3 starts today. They just like to call it preseason until the tournaments and game changes are all started. So does that mean progamers can be matched up against noobs who were like 1k elo previous season? No. It is not a full reset. I was around 2k and now I am 1600. People on my friends list that were around 2200 are now like 1670. If you were 1k ELO you are probably like 1100 now. So how do they determine where your starting elo for the new season? Looks like it's (ELO+1200)*0.5 that's very similar to my dick measurement formula. science, man... it's all reoccurring patterns. No units so I'm gonna assume millimeters.
Too ambitious.
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On November 14 2012 04:15 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 03:30 thenexusp wrote:On November 14 2012 03:14 Nikon wrote:
Apparently, you can't see the other team's loading screen borders. So disappointed. Riot doesn't want "GG 4 opponents have gold borders and no one on ours does" at the start of the game (if this actually happens, consider that they were boosted) And to people saying that leashing brought people together: not really. If you ever go into a low level game, get a "leash" that consists of a single autoattack from the same side of the camp followed by the camp resetting and then the mid laner crying for a gank 30 seconds later ... yeah. At higher levels you just need to stick around to help kill the camp (like wolves), and with the new hunter's machete item the end result will probably be around the same My point wasn't that leashing was some kumbaya moment, but that it introduces the basic concept of "Huh, I can help my team" to new players and is surprisingly effective at doing so despite how acrimonious player-relations tend to be. Believe it or not the fundamental idea that you can and should look out for and assist your team is not something all new players, or even some not-so-new players, intrinsically know. It's essentially the same as your mother reminding you to say "please" or "thank you" as a child. You don't really know, care, or understand why you're doing it or what it means, but by the time you're an adult you have at least some understanding of etiquette as a result.
While I respect the idea that people are trying to get across, the "help" you get by leashing can make the first clear of a jungler really easy or really poorly. It's too reliant on other people. I play a jungler to avoid my team as much as possible in exchange I take blame if every lane is crushed. The leashes I've gotten from people range from the level of "oh god what did you do?!" to "I want to make love to my team, this is fantastic." Just let me clear my own damn jungle please.
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If you don't get a leash now, you're basically not going to have any jungle presence for a while because you'll be low clearing on boots3. But if you're at the level where people don't leash then boots3 for ganks isn't a necessity anyway.
If you don't get a leash in the new jungle, it means you're tanking harder hitting creep for far longer than if your lanes put some serious damage into blue/red, which means you'll end in the same spot as above (i.e. right now). Leashes are more about how much damage your laners do, not about the actual leash itself.
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On November 14 2012 04:17 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 04:15 Seuss wrote:On November 14 2012 03:30 thenexusp wrote:On November 14 2012 03:14 Nikon wrote:
Apparently, you can't see the other team's loading screen borders. So disappointed. Riot doesn't want "GG 4 opponents have gold borders and no one on ours does" at the start of the game (if this actually happens, consider that they were boosted) And to people saying that leashing brought people together: not really. If you ever go into a low level game, get a "leash" that consists of a single autoattack from the same side of the camp followed by the camp resetting and then the mid laner crying for a gank 30 seconds later ... yeah. At higher levels you just need to stick around to help kill the camp (like wolves), and with the new hunter's machete item the end result will probably be around the same My point wasn't that leashing was some kumbaya moment, but that it introduces the basic concept of "Huh, I can help my team" to new players and is surprisingly effective at doing so despite how acrimonious player-relations tend to be. Believe it or not the fundamental idea that you can and should look out for and assist your team is not something all new players, or even some not-so-new players, intrinsically know. It's essentially the same as your mother reminding you to say "please" or "thank you" as a child. You don't really know, care, or understand why you're doing it or what it means, but by the time you're an adult you have at least some understanding of etiquette as a result. Yes, but it's also going to remove the opposite. You're no longer going to have mids/ADs who refuse to leash out of spite because of something in champ select, or intentionally fuck it up for you. Honestly, those situations were even more detrimental to some junglers than an actual invade.
I would say that situations like the one you describe are about a billion times less common than a simple invade, especially post-tribunal. I'm at a relatively low Elo, and I've only had it happen once out of spite, and that guy was set on intentionally feeding from the beginning.
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Anyone else nervous to get matched with some trolls today? Placement matches 2scary.
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