|
On November 20 2012 02:16 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 01:54 nosliw wrote:
Xerath sounds fun with pretty much true dmg with his W. maybe he can go R>Q>W>E for maximum poke? Yeah, you want to do QEQW, R>Q>W>E with Xerath. For items, I like boots/3hp => 2 dorans rings => lucidity boots => deathcap => void staff. You can get away with this because of Xerath's range. I like lucidity boots over sorc boots because Xerath already gets a fair amount of spell penetration from his skills and he needs CDR badly. Even so, I don't find Xerath's damage to be that great when compared to other AP champs.
He's very underwhelming without his ult. With it he wrecks though, Maximum Magic Damage: 375 / 600 / 825 (+ 180% AP) at 900 to 1300 range and with an initial cooldown of 80 seconds. You can easily abuse an opponent with a longer cooldown, in lane, and snipe people from behind their turret walls when you roam.
|
ima be maining khazix or elise because they are op
nidalee 2 boring lee often banned and vlad can only go 2 roles
|
Once the new items and jungle roll out and the various items buffs and nerfs go through:
Mid: Anivia going to build tear and catalyst again since Athene's got nerfed fairly hard. I'll probably play a bit more Ahri and other slightly less mana hog mids.
Jungle: generally going to avoid jungle like the plague until the numbers get tweaked more to make it actually worth it. Though I may play some jungle Diana and Noc before then.
Top: Riven and Shyvana. Definitely going to want to try out new Tiamat/Hydra on Shyvana. I'm a bit sad that building tanky Shyvana is going to be more expensive.
Bot: With the new AoE items I think it's time to work on my Varus and Caitlyn again.
|
On November 20 2012 02:21 Requizen wrote:
Alright, I guess a bit more descriptive. I'm with Terranasaur, where I play too much crap and never get good at any one in particular. Now I'm going to hold you guys to this, if you see me playing anyone except these champions in a tryhard or ranked game, yell at me:
Jungle: Skarner, Hecarim, Udyr, Zed
Top: Riven, Nunu, Vlad, Jayce, Zed, (maybe Elise once I learn her)
Support: Taric, Nunu, Janna, Soraka
ADC: Cait, Ezreal, Graves
Mid: TF, Vlad, Ryze, Zed, (maybe Elise once I learn her)
I feel exactly the opposite.
Since my mega-tryharding at the end of Season 2 I feel like my champion pool is super diminished to like 1 for each role.
I need to re-learn all my other AP mids and some new ADs.
Also completely re-learn every champ top lane because I can't play it at all anymore.
|
United States47024 Posts
On November 20 2012 02:36 NEOtheONE wrote:
Top: Riven and Shyvana. Definitely going to want to try out new Tiamat/Hydra on Shyvana. I'm a bit sad that building tanky Shyvana is going to be more expensive.
Don't see the appeal of building Tiamat on Shyvana when she already has some of the best AoE farming ability in the game.
Tiamat Q is more or less just a gimmick.
|
On November 20 2012 02:16 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 01:54 nosliw wrote:
Xerath sounds fun with pretty much true dmg with his W. maybe he can go R>Q>W>E for maximum poke? Yeah, you want to do QEQW, R>Q>W>E with Xerath. For items, I like boots/3hp => 2 dorans rings => lucidity boots => deathcap => void staff. You can get away with this because of Xerath's range. I like lucidity boots over sorc boots because Xerath already gets a fair amount of spell penetration from his skills and he needs CDR badly. Even so, I don't find Xerath's damage to be that great when compared to other AP champs.
In S3 you're going to want Sorc boots due to the change in penetration mechanics. You'll also be grabbing Guise/Liandry's for similar reasons. Between Arcane Knowledge, Mage Chains, and Void Staff the value of any penetration is multiplied 2.7871 times (whereas in S2 it's reduced to a third of its value).
So the core build for Xerath is likely to be Deathcap + Sorc's + Guise + Void, with other items added after/in-between depending on how quickly the enemy builds MR.
|
On November 20 2012 02:36 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 02:21 Requizen wrote:
Alright, I guess a bit more descriptive. I'm with Terranasaur, where I play too much crap and never get good at any one in particular. Now I'm going to hold you guys to this, if you see me playing anyone except these champions in a tryhard or ranked game, yell at me:
Jungle: Skarner, Hecarim, Udyr, Zed
Top: Riven, Nunu, Vlad, Jayce, Zed, (maybe Elise once I learn her)
Support: Taric, Nunu, Janna, Soraka
ADC: Cait, Ezreal, Graves
Mid: TF, Vlad, Ryze, Zed, (maybe Elise once I learn her) I feel exactly the opposite. Since my mega-tryharding at the end of Season 2 I feel like my champion pool is super diminished to like 1 for each role. I need to re-learn all my other AP mids and some new ADs. Also completely re-learn every champ top lane because I can't play it at all anymore.
Yeah, but you probably know those champs well enough to play pretty well with them and know the matchups. My problem is (well, one of many) that I play so sporadically that I never really have one that I feel super confident in winning on (other than Skarner). I have a couple that I know the feel of the cooldowns and builds easily, but I end up playing random stuff that I'm trying to learn in a ranked game. Frustrating.
|
On November 20 2012 02:37 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 02:36 NEOtheONE wrote:
Top: Riven and Shyvana. Definitely going to want to try out new Tiamat/Hydra on Shyvana. I'm a bit sad that building tanky Shyvana is going to be more expensive.
Don't see the appeal of building Tiamat on Shyvana when she already has some of the best AoE farming ability in the game. Tiamat Q is more or less just a gimmick.
I like gimmicks that allow me to blow up an entire team. lol 
|
On November 20 2012 02:36 NEOtheONE wrote:
Once the new items and jungle roll out and the various items buffs and nerfs go through:
Mid: Anivia going to build tear and catalyst again since Athene's got nerfed fairly hard. I'll probably play a bit more Ahri and other slightly less mana hog mids.
Jungle: generally going to avoid jungle like the plague until the numbers get tweaked more to make it actually worth it. Though I may play some jungle Diana and Noc before then.
Top: Riven and Shyvana. Definitely going to want to try out new Tiamat/Hydra on Shyvana. I'm a bit sad that building tanky Shyvana is going to be more expensive.
Bot: With the new AoE items I think it's time to work on my Varus and Caitlyn again.
Playing Ahri on the pbe I was going oom ridiculously fast with no grail and ooming pretty fast even with blue, something felt really off about it.
|
On November 20 2012 02:42 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 02:37 TheYango wrote:On November 20 2012 02:36 NEOtheONE wrote:
Top: Riven and Shyvana. Definitely going to want to try out new Tiamat/Hydra on Shyvana. I'm a bit sad that building tanky Shyvana is going to be more expensive.
Don't see the appeal of building Tiamat on Shyvana when she already has some of the best AoE farming ability in the game. Tiamat Q is more or less just a gimmick. I like gimmicks that allow me to blow up an entire team. lol
Sadly, new Tiamat doesn't work with Shyvana Q anymore, it only goes off once regardless of how many people are hit with Q.
|
On November 20 2012 02:48 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 02:42 wei2coolman wrote:On November 20 2012 02:37 TheYango wrote:On November 20 2012 02:36 NEOtheONE wrote:
Top: Riven and Shyvana. Definitely going to want to try out new Tiamat/Hydra on Shyvana. I'm a bit sad that building tanky Shyvana is going to be more expensive.
Don't see the appeal of building Tiamat on Shyvana when she already has some of the best AoE farming ability in the game. Tiamat Q is more or less just a gimmick. I like gimmicks that allow me to blow up an entire team. lol Sadly, new Tiamat doesn't work with Shyvana Q anymore, it only goes off once regardless of how many people are hit with Q.
Really? damn, I'm sad.
|
Top: jarvan nunu jax.
Jungle: Tiger stance udyr (really really amazing on the new jungle) IVth fiora
mid: Viktor (more like Winktor right soniv?) Jarman
support: taric blitz jar jar sona
Adc: Graves and DAMACIA!
Srs tho I need to find someone who will duo q nami jarvan bot lane so we can form the rock n roll connection. We literally can't lose a single lane and will win s3 ezpz gg no re.
|
My goals champion-wise for s3 will probably be
Top: Fiora, Xin Zhao, Rumble
Mid: Xerath, Viktor, Ryze
Jungle: Amumu, Khazix, Shyvana, Mundo
AD: Varus, Koggles
Sup: Leona, Nunu, maybe Nami pending on what she's like on release
|
I got the feeling that poppy is going to be real stronk this coming patch. Definitely going to give her a spin this time round.
|
I find nami IMPOSSIBLE to play. Her CC just feels too unreliable, and so people just jump on me or my ADC, i throw out a W and i or my ADC dies anyway. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. I thought I could approach aggressive trading a little like sona but it feels like I need to be closer, and I can't use the heal effectively unless I'm in engagement distance. And fuck, I think I hit 0 Q's during laning.
|
Q is much easier to land if you first hit them with your slow. Also, Nami's W is currently glitched and costs double the listed mana cost.
|
Top: Vlad/Rumble/Xin/Khazix
Mid: TF/morde
Jungle: Yi, Khazix/Zed/Xin/Diana/Jax/Gangplank
AD: Tristana/Cait
Support: Lulu, only lulu.
I really just want to play jungle and get back into a position where I feel I am just not downright terrible with the game. I mean I have a fairly good understanding of things as an observer but I don't think I'am a strong enough player in comparisson by a large margin.
We'll see what happens as things go out but I am really hoping to have fun with some of the old forgotten junglers and ones who are not ideal in the current jungle.
|
|
|
|
|
It sounds like Nami is a little squishy in the lane phase, and better for teamfights later on?
Is this the gist I'm getting?
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
