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I think you're totally missing the point. I'm talking about laning, not late-game teamfighting. By the time you hit lvl.16 laning will be mostly over. She doesn't really interfere with your late-game. She interfers with your ability to rack up kills during laning before lvl.16. If you win your lane, that doesn't really matter. But the "beauty" of Karthus is, that you can be forced to farm under tower and still have global map presence. Soraka takes that away from you.
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Uh, Soraka's ultimate interferes with everybody's ability to rack up kills during laning. She doesn't counter Karthus any harder than she counters everybody.
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What happens when you teleport away from the fountain (presumably into a teamfight) with Homeguard? Do you get to run around like crazy for 8 sec?
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On November 19 2012 22:40 sylverfyre wrote:
What happens when you teleport away from the fountain (presumably into a teamfight) with Homeguard? Do you get to run around like crazy for 8 sec?
Jungle Shen!
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I just saw a streamer who mains AD last pick Vayne top, possible enemy tops are Lee Sin or Mundo. Is that a viable matchup?
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On November 19 2012 22:47 tissue wrote:
I just saw a streamer who mains AD last pick Vayne top, possible enemy tops are Lee Sin or Mundo. Is that a viable matchup?
AFAIK we have no Vayne top expert on TL, but I will give it a shot:
I don't see her losing to Mundo unless she pushes too far without warding or is horrible at dodging cleavers. On his own, Mundo has no means of ever closing the gap to a vayne. Not sure if you can play the MU aggressive, but I'd take a farmed Vayne over farmed Mundo any day of the week.
As for Lee, I'm pretty sure it's a hard matchup for Vayne that heavily gets influenced by jungle pressure from both sides (welcome to top lane). I don't think Tumble is enough to kite Lee when she has the Tempest/Cripple debuff, and with W, Q and proper positioning, Lee has two means of engaging onto Vayne, while she only has her condemn and her ultimate which is basically countered by half of Lee's kit. I would say it's a winnable lane if you zone yourself at the beginning and have your jungler camp Lee, but that's a lot to ask for. That being said, if you stay within a 15-20 CS range of Lee, I'd say you did your job and will outperform him during teamfights later on.
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Does anyone know where I can find the vods of Voyboy playing Elise recently? I heard he did really well.
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On November 19 2012 23:14 zodde wrote:
Does anyone know where I can find the vods of Voyboy playing Elise recently? I heard he did really well.
there you go man
Couldn't find any VODs from the TSM tournament where he supposedly carry, google didn't find anything either, so I found this one browsing his own channel's VODs. Hope it's a good game, sorry I couldn't be arsed to look for one where he specifically dominates.
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On November 19 2012 23:27 Shiv. wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 23:14 zodde wrote:
Does anyone know where I can find the vods of Voyboy playing Elise recently? I heard he did really well. there you go manCouldn't find any VODs from the TSM tournament where he supposedly carry, google didn't find anything either, so I found this one browsing his own channel's VODs. Hope it's a good game, sorry I couldn't be arsed to look for one where he specifically dominates.
Thanks! Yeah I was looking for the TSM tournament one, but this will do for now 
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Ive played vayne top a fw times it makes sense in some matchups easier to farm etc some matchups aka xin destroy u
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Those tribunal decisions are kinda weird especially the pardons. Just had a case where one guy was definately flaming, calling others fags and idiots and so on. I voted punish and the result is pardon. Do ppl only look for the first game or what....
http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/case/435280/
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Nooo stop advocating Zed I hate that guy.
EDIT: Zed is like Shaco. The awful one ALWAYS ends up on your team. You know, the one who doesn't even know he can swap with his clones. Then the godly unkillable one is always on the other team.
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On November 19 2012 22:40 sylverfyre wrote:
What happens when you teleport away from the fountain (presumably into a teamfight) with Homeguard? Do you get to run around like crazy for 8 sec?
Yes.
You port in and get to go BLEEP BLOOP BLUP all over the fight. No one else knows WTF is going on.
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On November 19 2012 16:49 Mondeezy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 15:30 ExoFun wrote:
I still dont know what the place is for Zed. I like him and own with him but i got the feeling that other champions are doing a better job and the teamfight presence is a little bit of underwhelming. Agreed. I tend to dominate lane with him most of the time - however, when it gets to team fights I feel like all I can really do is one shot the squishy then die. Maybe he's just supposed to abuse his strong midgame and roam a lot? Or should he be built semi Tanky?
He's an assassin, the thing that changes when you become better with him is that you remove the "then die" part.  He's rather good at cleaning-up later if you still have a shadow in the fight, because he can gapclose with it and his W passive gives him more damage than other assassins, esp. with autos (400+ AD Zed with only BT/LW/MoM hurts).
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I like how they gave him Riven's ult on his W, lol. Stacking BTs has never been so much fun.
How is the Shockblade skin in game? I only saw the stills.
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On November 20 2012 00:42 Requizen wrote:
I like how they gave him Riven's ult on his W, lol. Stacking BTs has never been so much fun.
How is the Shockblade skin in game? I only saw the stills.
Check Shake's montage vid in the pic/vid thread. It's pretty.
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On November 19 2012 20:15 Dark_Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 19:29 vertigo1 wrote:
so with the jungle being worth less gold in the coming season, is there any reason at all for maokai to clear camps, or just sit on lane all day still Didn't Riot respond to a post someone here made about the jungle and say that they'd be looking into it?
Yes. Statikk responded to a post I made on the subject. The key is that while jungle gold on average went down, the passive gp10 everyone starts with went up (as did jungle scaling by 50%). The net result is that you end up with just as much/slightly more gold jungling than before, and as the game goes on jungle gold remains close to lane gold.
On November 19 2012 22:40 sylverfyre wrote:
What happens when you teleport away from the fountain (presumably into a teamfight) with Homeguard? Do you get to run around like crazy for 8 sec?
Yes. For added hilarity do this on Revive/Teleport Karthus.
In other news, Xerath can completely bypass up to 139 MR with current PBE items/runes. Fun times.
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On November 20 2012 00:54 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 20:15 Dark_Chill wrote:On November 19 2012 19:29 vertigo1 wrote:
so with the jungle being worth less gold in the coming season, is there any reason at all for maokai to clear camps, or just sit on lane all day still Didn't Riot respond to a post someone here made about the jungle and say that they'd be looking into it? Yes. Statikk responded to a post I made on the subject. The key is that while jungle gold on average went down, the passive gp10 everyone starts with went up (as did jungle scaling by 50%). The net result is that you end up with just as much/slightly more gold jungling than before, and as the game goes on jungle gold remains close to lane gold. Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 22:40 sylverfyre wrote:
What happens when you teleport away from the fountain (presumably into a teamfight) with Homeguard? Do you get to run around like crazy for 8 sec? Yes. For added hilarity do this on Revive/Teleport Karthus.
Preliminary testing showed +25 gold for straight farming jungle at 11 minutes, at which point it starts to increase a bit more. I thought it was going to be a big difference, guess not :\
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On November 19 2012 22:40 APurpleCow wrote:Show nested quote +I think you're totally missing the point. I'm talking about laning, not late-game teamfighting. By the time you hit lvl.16 laning will be mostly over. She doesn't really interfere with your late-game. She interfers with your ability to rack up kills during laning before lvl.16. If you win your lane, that doesn't really matter. But the "beauty" of Karthus is, that you can be forced to farm under tower and still have global map presence. Soraka takes that away from you. ... Uh, Soraka's ultimate interferes with everybody's ability to rack up kills during laning. She doesn't counter Karthus any harder than she counters everybody.
Yes and no. Karthus, shen, pantheon etc. all apply global pressure to the map, soraka does the opposite.
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On November 20 2012 00:59 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 00:54 Seuss wrote:On November 19 2012 20:15 Dark_Chill wrote:On November 19 2012 19:29 vertigo1 wrote:
so with the jungle being worth less gold in the coming season, is there any reason at all for maokai to clear camps, or just sit on lane all day still Didn't Riot respond to a post someone here made about the jungle and say that they'd be looking into it? Yes. Statikk responded to a post I made on the subject. The key is that while jungle gold on average went down, the passive gp10 everyone starts with went up (as did jungle scaling by 50%). The net result is that you end up with just as much/slightly more gold jungling than before, and as the game goes on jungle gold remains close to lane gold. On November 19 2012 22:40 sylverfyre wrote:
What happens when you teleport away from the fountain (presumably into a teamfight) with Homeguard? Do you get to run around like crazy for 8 sec? Yes. For added hilarity do this on Revive/Teleport Karthus. Preliminary testing showed +25 gold for straight farming jungle at 11 minutes, at which point it starts to increase a bit more. I thought it was going to be a big difference, guess not :\
Erything in context my friend. If lane gold is going down, and jungle gold is going up (albeit only a small amount in comparison to previous jungles), then it is in fact a larger buff than it may initially appear.
Everyone seems to be focusing on specific changes without taking into account the other changes being made.
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