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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 19 2012 05:58 GMT
#2361
On November 19 2012 14:51 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 14:45 onlywonderboy wrote:
On November 19 2012 14:14 thenexusp wrote:
Homeguard seems like it could be hilarious on hecarim.

I saw that today. He bought homeguard on Moba boots and only built items that gave him move speed. Every time he left base it was like watching a drag car.

did he build 4 phantom dancers and a triforce?

It was a bot game so he didn't make it that far in his build, but what was his overall goal.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
November 19 2012 06:05 GMT
#2362
Man, Zed is really fun. The Riot champ design team did well when they created him.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
November 19 2012 06:10 GMT
#2363
Sad day for SEA LoL fans
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 19 2012 06:18 GMT
#2364
On November 19 2012 15:05 LoCicero wrote:
Man, Zed is really fun. The Riot champ design team did well when they created him.

I agree
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ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
November 19 2012 06:30 GMT
#2365
I still dont know what the place is for Zed. I like him and own with him but i got the feeling that other champions are doing a better job and the teamfight presence is a little bit of underwhelming.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 19 2012 06:34 GMT
#2366
What's with the TLers playing ARAM with Scarra haha.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
November 19 2012 06:34 GMT
#2367
On November 19 2012 15:05 LoCicero wrote:
Man, Zed is really fun. The Riot champ design team did well when they created him.

But most people are plain awful with him.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 19 2012 06:35 GMT
#2368
Ugh. Playing Karthus against Soraka support is so hard.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 19 2012 06:37 GMT
#2369
On November 19 2012 15:35 Sufficiency wrote:
Ugh. Playing Karthus against Soraka support is so hard.

Not as hard as playing Karthus vs midlane Soraka. At least, before the big ap soraka nerfs.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 19 2012 06:40 GMT
#2370
On November 19 2012 15:34 HazMat wrote:
What's with the TLers playing ARAM with Scarra haha.


Neo baited scarra so hard.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 19 2012 06:43 GMT
#2371
On November 19 2012 15:37 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 15:35 Sufficiency wrote:
Ugh. Playing Karthus against Soraka support is so hard.

Not as hard as playing Karthus vs midlane Soraka. At least, before the big ap soraka nerfs.


That's at least reasonable because it's a counterpick on the same lane. 0CS support hard countering a different, solo lane is just... ugh.
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EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
November 19 2012 07:05 GMT
#2372
Hard-countering? Are you serious?
Like, it can be painful to be against a Soraka as a Karthus - but most of the time she's not gonna save her ult for your ult, she's gonna use her ult to save a lane, no matter if you ulted or not. It's just something that you have to factor in when playing Karthus.
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
November 19 2012 07:08 GMT
#2373
On November 19 2012 15:43 Sufficiency wrote:
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On November 19 2012 15:37 HazMat wrote:
On November 19 2012 15:35 Sufficiency wrote:
Ugh. Playing Karthus against Soraka support is so hard.

Not as hard as playing Karthus vs midlane Soraka. At least, before the big ap soraka nerfs.


That's at least reasonable because it's a counterpick on the same lane. 0CS support hard countering a different, solo lane is just... ugh.


Hardcounter?

Thats a little extreme I'd say. Harder to get auto fed standing in fountain perhaps, but you can still pick up kills, you can still farm in lanes, and you still have ridiculous AoE damage that going to hit other team regardless.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 19 2012 07:09 GMT
#2374
When you say hard counter I assume you mean soft counter considering it does less damage at all levels (although with slightly less CD), support Soraka will hit 6/11/16 much later than you, and won't be utilizing any of her 70% scaling.

Did I miss something during my Soraka QQ?
Freeeeeeedom
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
November 19 2012 07:17 GMT
#2375
tbh i think Janna fks over Karthus more than Soraka

Ulting you away after you flash in is so irritating when you're trying to die on top of people rofl
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
November 19 2012 07:34 GMT
#2376
Well Soraka also has her magic resist aura passive and her regular heal to counter karthus too, more soft counters but nevertheless..
3.
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
November 19 2012 07:49 GMT
#2377
On November 19 2012 15:30 ExoFun wrote:
I still dont know what the place is for Zed. I like him and own with him but i got the feeling that other champions are doing a better job and the teamfight presence is a little bit of underwhelming.


Agreed. I tend to dominate lane with him most of the time - however, when it gets to team fights I feel like all I can really do is one shot the squishy then die.

Maybe he's just supposed to abuse his strong midgame and roam a lot? Or should he be built semi Tanky?
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
armed_
Profile Joined November 2008
Canada443 Posts
November 19 2012 07:50 GMT
#2378
Karthus hardcounters Soraka, just ult whenever she ults and her ult doesn't do anything gg
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 19 2012 08:01 GMT
#2379
On November 19 2012 16:34 Inschato wrote:
Well Soraka also has her magic resist aura passive and her regular heal to counter karthus too, more soft counters but nevertheless..


I'd buy the MR, but she can get off like 1,2 heals in a fight. Healing in LoL is really not that strong when compared to damage during combat. Its just that the game sometimes favors passivity in lane/sieging and in those situations it is very strong.
Freeeeeeedom
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-19 08:16:26
November 19 2012 08:09 GMT
#2380
Played a few games as Ezreal on PBE.

Was kind of crushed that Phage, trinity force, Zerker greaves, and Vamp scepter all cost like 500 more gold than before for the same stats. Big nerfs to mid game Ez (and AD carries in general, I suppose.).

That Mercurial Scimitar item is actually really really cool though, QSS mixed with BF Sword king.

On the other hand, this also pretty big buffs to AD assassins like Panth/Xin. Their early game dominance stay scary for about another 5-10 minutes probably. I like Itemization changes, most items cost more in long run, makes game slightly less snowbally, and improves value of those mid tier items like Brutalizer because your BF sword not going to be an IE for an extra 1k gold.
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