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beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-19 03:32:46
November 19 2012 03:16 GMT
#2341
On November 19 2012 12:14 wei2coolman wrote:
With these boot enchants, we'll have a lot more mobile game, that means it'll be a lot harder to sneak in objectives, especially if they can cover more ground now with boot enchants.

I'm calling it, HSGG only buys captain boot enchants. splitpush all day.

He's going to buy the new swift boots for sure, which are quite good now imo. And Captain doesn't help the user at all so it doesn't help him escape.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
November 19 2012 03:43 GMT
#2342
On November 19 2012 12:16 beefhamburger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 12:14 wei2coolman wrote:
With these boot enchants, we'll have a lot more mobile game, that means it'll be a lot harder to sneak in objectives, especially if they can cover more ground now with boot enchants.

I'm calling it, HSGG only buys captain boot enchants. splitpush all day.

He's going to buy the new swift boots for sure, which are quite good now imo. And Captain doesn't help the user at all so it doesn't help him escape.


HSGG is the type of person to build team based items and then split push for no reason, then get caught. So he never actually uses his team based items.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-19 04:00:35
November 19 2012 03:58 GMT
#2343
Distortion is probably the best enhancement on paper, but there are definitely situations where you would want to build something else. Again I think this is another addition that allows for situational item buys to better adapt to the current situation.

Edit: That's why I really like that you can build the enhancement on any boot instead of each boot having a tier 3 upgrade with a unique ability.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
November 19 2012 04:27 GMT
#2344
in a video demonstrating the boots, it's quite clear that furor and homeguard are hands down the strongest
5x homeguard boots is going to make defending so easy. poke comp for enemy? lol okay you poke i recall and i'm back in defensive position in 1second. pushing doubles? hope you can get through 5 people full health 100 times

and furor is just crazy good in lane. downright darius
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
November 19 2012 04:44 GMT
#2345
On November 19 2012 13:27 gtrsrs wrote:
in a video demonstrating the boots, it's quite clear that furor and homeguard are hands down the strongest
5x homeguard boots is going to make defending so easy. poke comp for enemy? lol okay you poke i recall and i'm back in defensive position in 1second. pushing doubles? hope you can get through 5 people full health 100 times

and furor is just crazy good in lane. downright darius


good lord, CLG EU games are going to be even more irritating to watch :/
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-19 04:48:54
November 19 2012 04:48 GMT
#2346
One interesting thing I just learned from reading Elise is that her spider form lift E reveals enemies in a large range around her and her cocoon also reveals for a second. One of the most annoying thing about playing against stealthers is when they stealth and you can't do anything to them. With akali it becomes hard to trade so you need a pink ward to trade effectively with her. Other than lee sin, having another stealth revealing champion can be a great way to counter stealthers.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
November 19 2012 04:53 GMT
#2347
On November 19 2012 13:44 tobi9999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 13:27 gtrsrs wrote:
in a video demonstrating the boots, it's quite clear that furor and homeguard are hands down the strongest
5x homeguard boots is going to make defending so easy. poke comp for enemy? lol okay you poke i recall and i'm back in defensive position in 1second. pushing doubles? hope you can get through 5 people full health 100 times

and furor is just crazy good in lane. downright darius


good lord, CLG EU games are going to be even more irritating to watch :/

actually i would think it would be hilar watching them speed around with yellow particle effects.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
November 19 2012 05:05 GMT
#2348
I need a quick confirmation, Darius is not overpowered. Most people who say he is overpowered are just looking for excuse 90 percent of the time, right?
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
November 19 2012 05:09 GMT
#2349
On November 19 2012 14:05 Shiragaku wrote:
I need a quick confirmation, Darius is not overpowered. Most people who say he is overpowered are just looking for excuse 90 percent of the time, right?


He just does a lot of damage. People who say he's overpowered either pick a poor champ to fight him or just try to trade him in lane too much. (I remember i had an amp tome first vlad complain about him being the "most overpowered champ in the game" once)
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-19 05:36:05
November 19 2012 05:11 GMT
#2350
For those people on the PBE, how are you finding Hunter's Machete and the non-Wriggle's Lantern items that build from it? I'm glad there's a caster-oriented item for the jungle, as well a defensive/tenacity item for the support/tank-y junglers, but I'm not entirely sure who Spirit of the Lizard Elder is designed for.

(Waiting to hear Monte's thoughts on his blog, tbh!)
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
November 19 2012 05:14 GMT
#2351
Homeguard seems like it could be hilarious on hecarim.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 19 2012 05:33 GMT
#2352
How are people going Elise build/mastery/runes? I think I may pick her up.
It's your boy Guzma!
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
November 19 2012 05:33 GMT
#2353
On November 19 2012 14:05 Shiragaku wrote:
I need a quick confirmation, Darius is not overpowered. Most people who say he is overpowered are just looking for excuse 90 percent of the time, right?

I hate playing against him and feel he's very strong like Jax. Some of his best counters Kayle and Teemo can't fight him toe to toe and can lose a trade by getting pulled. If he gets ahead the lane snowballs hard. Maybe Yorick would be a good way to lane against him.

He's overpowered for sure but then again so are 50% of champs statistically speaking.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-19 05:38:22
November 19 2012 05:37 GMT
#2354
On November 19 2012 14:05 Shiragaku wrote:
I need a quick confirmation, Darius is not overpowered. Most people who say he is overpowered are just looking for excuse 90 percent of the time, right?

He's
- a bully (from level 1 onward, his blade Q is ridiculously strong and his passive gives him an additional source of damage)
- very snowbally (hits 6 a creep before you? Get all-ined. Gets a kill any time before you become significantly more tanky than him? HF having him constantly trying to get you. etc.)
- extremely binary (If you outtrade him or can survive his ult and heal/kill him, he's toast unless he gets significant help)
- and his skills requirements are achingly low (easy to hit spells, a pull is an amazing tool to counter a lot of escapes, his passive accelerates him to chase/flee, mixed damage intrinsicaly makes it harder to defend against him than for him to itemize offense, and a huge burst that doesn't commit him since it's only the end of his combo, making it easy to all-in for him and harder to bait his ult)

Such a mix makes the champ usually way harder to play against than to play as, which is very frustrating. The fact that his ult bursts you at the end of his combo also makes trading very annoying as you can't afford to waste an important cooldown or he'll have easy opportunities to punish him. Playing a harass champ is also annoying because of the "wear both down before the kill" that won't work (you usually enter his kill range way earlier than he enter yours, so you have to put more work into whittling down this kind of champs than the others).

He's not OP, but he's unfun and boring to play against, and his very low skill requirements can often draw "OP" accusations, as he appears much stronger than harder to play champs at low skill levels.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 19 2012 05:45 GMT
#2355
On November 19 2012 14:14 thenexusp wrote:
Homeguard seems like it could be hilarious on hecarim.

I saw that today. He bought homeguard on Moba boots and only built items that gave him move speed. Every time he left base it was like watching a drag car.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
November 19 2012 05:48 GMT
#2356
On November 19 2012 14:37 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 14:05 Shiragaku wrote:
I need a quick confirmation, Darius is not overpowered. Most people who say he is overpowered are just looking for excuse 90 percent of the time, right?

He's
- a bully (from level 1 onward, his blade Q is ridiculously strong and his passive gives him an additional source of damage)
- very snowbally (hits 6 a creep before you? Get all-ined. Gets a kill any time before you become significantly more tanky than him? HF having him constantly trying to get you. etc.)
- extremely binary (If you outtrade him or can survive his ult and heal/kill him, he's toast unless he gets significant help)
- and his skills requirements are achingly low (easy to hit spells, a pull is an amazing tool to counter a lot of escapes, his passive accelerates him to chase/flee, mixed damage intrinsicaly makes it harder to defend against him than for him to itemize offense, and a huge burst that doesn't commit him since it's only the end of his combo, making it easy to all-in for him and harder to bait his ult)

Such a mix makes the champ usually way harder to play against than to play as, which is very frustrating. The fact that his ult bursts you at the end of his combo also makes trading very annoying as you can't afford to waste an important cooldown or he'll have easy opportunities to punish him. Playing a harass champ is also annoying because of the "wear both down before the kill" that won't work (you usually enter his kill range way earlier than he enter yours, so you have to put more work into whittling down this kind of champs than the others).

He's not OP, but he's unfun and boring to play against, and his very low skill requirements can often draw "OP" accusations, as he appears much stronger than harder to play champs at low skill levels.

damn i tought you were talking about graves,
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
November 19 2012 05:48 GMT
#2357
so much upset for singapore's biggest Esport event

http://gossipgames.net/news/last-changes-before-intel-extreme-masters-singapore/48
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 19 2012 05:48 GMT
#2358
On November 19 2012 11:36 Requizen wrote:
Boot enchants:

+ Show Spoiler +
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Furor is kind of underwhelming, I think, compared to what I thought it was. Homeguard seems kind of situational at best. I think Distortion or Captain will be the standard ones, Alacrity doesn't seem big enough to warrant over them.

Alacrity has inherent value from the fact that it's a FLAT ms boost rather than %, meaning that it's multiplied by % ms boosts, rather than stacking additively with them.
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
November 19 2012 05:51 GMT
#2359
On November 19 2012 14:45 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 14:14 thenexusp wrote:
Homeguard seems like it could be hilarious on hecarim.

I saw that today. He bought homeguard on Moba boots and only built items that gave him move speed. Every time he left base it was like watching a drag car.

did he build 4 phantom dancers and a triforce?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 19 2012 05:52 GMT
#2360
On November 19 2012 14:48 justiceknight wrote:
so much upset for singapore's biggest Esport event

http://gossipgames.net/news/last-changes-before-intel-extreme-masters-singapore/48


lol... what a bummer for Singaporean fans.
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