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Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
November 19 2012 18:28 GMT
#2461
Dude seems to play a mean Ziggs tho. Me likey.
currently rooting for myself.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 19 2012 18:28 GMT
#2462
Does anyone know what Masteries and Skillorder Froggen is using on Lead Singah mid?
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
November 19 2012 18:33 GMT
#2463
I've been playing a lot of lulu this season and she seems so op.Like I'm having trouble finding a reason not to pick her :D.

Hating so much on this preseason.Most games are so god damn boring/annoying to play :/.1600/1700 elo is like any players from 1000 to 2200 from last QQ.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
November 19 2012 18:41 GMT
#2464
On November 20 2012 03:33 nafta wrote:
I've been playing a lot of lulu this season and she seems so op.Like I'm having trouble finding a reason not to pick her :D.

Hating so much on this preseason.Most games are so god damn boring/annoying to play :/.1600/1700 elo is like any players from 1000 to 2200 from last QQ.

So I guess it's a good thing I can't play at the moment? There was so much talk about yoloQ being more random that it already was these days. Is it that horrible? I have troubles comprehending how the MMS puts players of 1,2k difference into the same games.
currently rooting for myself.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
November 19 2012 18:43 GMT
#2465
On November 20 2012 03:41 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 03:33 nafta wrote:
I've been playing a lot of lulu this season and she seems so op.Like I'm having trouble finding a reason not to pick her :D.

Hating so much on this preseason.Most games are so god damn boring/annoying to play :/.1600/1700 elo is like any players from 1000 to 2200 from last QQ.

So I guess it's a good thing I can't play at the moment? There was so much talk about yoloQ being more random that it already was these days. Is it that horrible? I have troubles comprehending how the MMS puts players of 1,2k difference into the same games.


The elo I'm using is from last season.Like I have a friend who was 1300-1400 for the whole season 2 and is now 1800.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 19 2012 18:44 GMT
#2466
It's going to get a lot worse once the S3 changes go through.

A lot of people really don't think for themselves when it comes to stuff like masteries and item builds, and they just copy what they see on stream. But quite a fair number of pros/streamers aren't that sharp when it comes to the theorycraft/analysis department either, so we're going to see a lot of bad builds from streamers, and therefore a ton of equally bad builds trickle down to lower level solo queue (and it will last much longer because while the streamers may find new builds and fix their errors, misinformation sticks around for much longer).
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Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
November 19 2012 18:47 GMT
#2467
It's simple: copy the Asians!
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 19 2012 18:51 GMT
#2468
On November 20 2012 03:28 AsnSensation wrote:
Does anyone know what Masteries and Skillorder Froggen is using on Lead Singah mid?

21 9 0 or 19 11 0, depending on if you're planning on fighting near creeps a lot
skillorder is r>q>e>w if you're fed, if you aren't then r>q>w>e but some more points in E arent bad either
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 19 2012 18:54 GMT
#2469
On November 20 2012 03:44 TheYango wrote:
It's going to get a lot worse once the S3 changes go through.

A lot of people really don't think for themselves when it comes to stuff like masteries and item builds, and they just copy what they see on stream. But quite a fair number of pros/streamers aren't that sharp when it comes to the theorycraft/analysis department either, so we're going to see a lot of bad builds from streamers, and therefore a ton of equally bad builds trickle down to lower level solo queue (and it will last much longer because while the streamers may find new builds and fix their errors, misinformation sticks around for much longer).

It's going to be like the wild west our there for months after the item changes.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
November 19 2012 18:57 GMT
#2470
It's so exciting! Season 3: the Final Frontier.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 19 2012 19:02 GMT
#2471
On November 20 2012 03:54 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 03:44 TheYango wrote:
It's going to get a lot worse once the S3 changes go through.

A lot of people really don't think for themselves when it comes to stuff like masteries and item builds, and they just copy what they see on stream. But quite a fair number of pros/streamers aren't that sharp when it comes to the theorycraft/analysis department either, so we're going to see a lot of bad builds from streamers, and therefore a ton of equally bad builds trickle down to lower level solo queue (and it will last much longer because while the streamers may find new builds and fix their errors, misinformation sticks around for much longer).

It's going to be like the wild west our there for months after the item changes.

Normals and ranked 5s with people I at least hope aren't more moronic than I am. The solo queue button will go untouched for months.
It's your boy Guzma!
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
November 19 2012 19:07 GMT
#2472
will there be another elo reset when the season starts? or do you start the season at your preseason elo
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
November 19 2012 19:11 GMT
#2473
Can anyone explain to me wing's double tap/jump on jax thing? I hear about it, and since I'm learning Jax now. I think it sounds important l0l
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 19 2012 19:12 GMT
#2474
Yeah I can't tell if solo Q matchmaking is borked because of people still not doing their placement matches or because of the new matchmaking taking#games played into account or both.

A friend of mine who was barely 1300 last season got matched up with a couple Plat solo queuers a few games ago. That kind of stuff should not be happening given that the soft reset should of placed them well above him....
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-19 19:16:13
November 19 2012 19:14 GMT
#2475
On November 20 2012 04:11 Kouda wrote:
Can anyone explain to me wing's double tap/jump on jax thing? I hear about it, and since I'm learning Jax now. I think it sounds important l0l

I'm not sure if this is exactly what you mean, but if you use your W on your jump (i.e. use it before/during jump and before you autoattack), you're wasting an extra auto, because W resets your attack animation.

The other thing that you could be mentioning is that you attack creeps twice, jump, and your first autoattack will be both ultimate and W empowered, resulting in a big burst and the possibility to hit more ulti procs.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
November 19 2012 19:18 GMT
#2476
On November 20 2012 03:44 TheYango wrote:
It's going to get a lot worse once the S3 changes go through.

A lot of people really don't think for themselves when it comes to stuff like masteries and item builds, and they just copy what they see on stream. But quite a fair number of pros/streamers aren't that sharp when it comes to the theorycraft/analysis department either, so we're going to see a lot of bad builds from streamers, and therefore a ton of equally bad builds trickle down to lower level solo queue (and it will last much longer because while the streamers may find new builds and fix their errors, misinformation sticks around for much longer).


On the flip side, people who are adept at discovering broken mechanics or abusive builds will have a big windfall. Things like MPen stacking on Xerath, Xin Zhao and Sword of the Divine, Muramana Ryze etc. have the ability to cheese games and inflate rankings.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
November 19 2012 19:20 GMT
#2477
On November 20 2012 03:44 TheYango wrote:
It's going to get a lot worse once the S3 changes go through.

A lot of people really don't think for themselves when it comes to stuff like masteries and item builds, and they just copy what they see on stream. But quite a fair number of pros/streamers aren't that sharp when it comes to the theorycraft/analysis department either, so we're going to see a lot of bad builds from streamers, and therefore a ton of equally bad builds trickle down to lower level solo queue (and it will last much longer because while the streamers may find new builds and fix their errors, misinformation sticks around for much longer).

But this also means that you'll have a larger comparative advantage if you are good at theorycrafting builds. Good theorycraft is probably one of the hardest skills to differentiate yourself currently, since most of the optimal builds have been figured out and copied by people with weak theorycrafting skill. (imagine if a larger portion of players built the recommended chalice on miss fortune...)
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
November 19 2012 19:20 GMT
#2478
On November 20 2012 04:07 Terranasaur wrote:
will there be another elo reset when the season starts? or do you start the season at your preseason elo


The latter. There's no difference between S3 preseason and S3 for solo-q players.
:3
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-19 19:22:03
November 19 2012 19:21 GMT
#2479
Wow I was at the highest 1300 S2 so I probably have no room to talk here, but I'm watching TOO's stream and holy shit this is too funny. Have yet to do my placements for S3, but his teammates make me wonder how these ppl even got gold/plat (esp. the last game the game just now with his Jax teammate). This is like worse than silver league ranked.
Forever Young
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
November 19 2012 19:22 GMT
#2480
On November 20 2012 04:18 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 03:44 TheYango wrote:
It's going to get a lot worse once the S3 changes go through.

A lot of people really don't think for themselves when it comes to stuff like masteries and item builds, and they just copy what they see on stream. But quite a fair number of pros/streamers aren't that sharp when it comes to the theorycraft/analysis department either, so we're going to see a lot of bad builds from streamers, and therefore a ton of equally bad builds trickle down to lower level solo queue (and it will last much longer because while the streamers may find new builds and fix their errors, misinformation sticks around for much longer).


On the flip side, people who are adept at discovering broken mechanics or abusive builds will have a big windfall. Things like MPen stacking on Xerath, Xin Zhao and Sword of the Divine, Muramana Ryze etc. have the ability to cheese games and inflate rankings.

Looking forward to whipping out my Utility-Flask GP build on unsuspecting top laners *cackle*
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