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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
November 18 2012 21:47 GMT
#2261
On November 19 2012 06:44 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 06:42 Ketara wrote:
Guess my winrate.

QQ thread that way --> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=220361


You sure it belongs in the QQ thread? Or does it belong in the awesome thread?

You must guess to find out!
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
ProV1
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States980 Posts
November 18 2012 21:48 GMT
#2262
On November 19 2012 06:41 ProV1 wrote:
What is the minion gold change.


No1 told me what the minion gold change was.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17288 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 21:49:31
November 18 2012 21:48 GMT
#2263
Given that it's A or B and neither is this thread...

On November 19 2012 06:48 ProV1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 06:41 ProV1 wrote:
What is the minion gold change.


No1 told me what the minion gold change was.

They're nerfin' shit by some amount to make getting owned in CS less bad. Maybe.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
November 18 2012 21:50 GMT
#2264
On November 19 2012 06:42 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 06:37 onlywonderboy wrote:
I think there might be some overreaction to the minion gold change. It's not like this change is going to allow current gold players to compete on the same level as a platinum or diamond player. Players with superior mechanics (Doublelift for example) are still going to be able to outplay opponents what are worse than him.

The point is the exact opposite.

It makes it harder for a player with superior mechanics (Doublelift for example) to exert lane dominance over a worse opponent.


Superior mechanics don't only mean last hitting. While the gold change will make it a bit harder, players like Doublelift are still going to be able to straight up outplay other players. I think it' definitely won't be as bad as people are making it out to be concerning the topic of LoL being made easier.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
November 18 2012 21:51 GMT
#2265
But then it wouldn't be an experiment, would it Craton.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 18 2012 21:51 GMT
#2266
this is a trainwreck about to happen and im getting my popcorn
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17288 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 21:55:04
November 18 2012 21:54 GMT
#2267
On November 19 2012 06:50 Dark_Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 06:42 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On November 19 2012 06:37 onlywonderboy wrote:
I think there might be some overreaction to the minion gold change. It's not like this change is going to allow current gold players to compete on the same level as a platinum or diamond player. Players with superior mechanics (Doublelift for example) are still going to be able to outplay opponents what are worse than him.

The point is the exact opposite.

It makes it harder for a player with superior mechanics (Doublelift for example) to exert lane dominance over a worse opponent.


Superior mechanics don't only mean last hitting. While the gold change will make it a bit harder, players like Doublelift are still going to be able to straight up outplay other players. I think it' definitely won't be as bad as people are making it out to be concerning the topic of LoL being made easier.

Being "not as bad as expected" still ends up worse than the starting point.

I don't want them devaluing the ability to CS because of how involved the process is beyond just the ability to right click at correct times (e.g. timing harass so you can still farm, positioning, dealing with setting up multiple low hp last hits under pressure, etc). This is an attempt to try and fix one symptom rather than the actual cause.
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 22:00:28
November 18 2012 21:55 GMT
#2268
On November 19 2012 06:42 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 06:37 onlywonderboy wrote:
I think there might be some overreaction to the minion gold change. It's not like this change is going to allow current gold players to compete on the same level as a platinum or diamond player. Players with superior mechanics (Doublelift for example) are still going to be able to outplay opponents what are worse than him.

The point is the exact opposite.

It makes it harder for a player with superior mechanics (Doublelift for example) to exert lane dominance over a worse opponent.

I realize it's going to make it harder, but it should still be possible. Players that he's beat before aren't going to magically be on his level just because they aren't as far behind when they are down 30cs.

Edit: For the record I don't like the change, I just don't think it's going to be the apocalyptic doom and gloom scenario that a few people have mentioned. This isn't going to be the change that turns the game into Bloodline Champions.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 21:59:52
November 18 2012 21:57 GMT
#2269
On November 19 2012 06:37 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 06:30 TheKefka wrote:
Haven't played pokemon online ever since a dragonite crit me with outrage 2 times in a row.
alt4

+ Show Spoiler [Obligatory comic] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Obligatory D'nite YT Video] +


But seriously, like, when I heard Salamence got moved to Ubers I was so sad. At least I quit before then haha. But really. I miss Salamence in OP tier.

Back on topic though. Viktor changes that were accidentally put on PBE are not going through. They're waaayyy too powerful esp with some of the other stuff that had been thought about. You'll end up having undesirables playing him for free Elo, not people who really sympathise and understand what an AP Mid needs. Oh, how many times have we been misunderstood?

They think that we're ignorant savages. And they've seen so many lanes, I guess it must be so. But still I cannot see, if the savage one is me. How can there be so much that they don't know? They don't know...

They think they own the lane they go to lane in; that tier lists are a thing that you can claim. But I know every champion and minion has a life, has a meaning, has a name. They think the only champions who are champions are the champions who look and think like them. But if they'd walk the footsteps of a champion, they'd learn things they never knew they never knew.

Have you ever heard Vilemaw cry to the half born moon? Or asked Baron Nashor why he screamed? Can they sing with all the voices of the jungle? Can they paint with colours from the chaos storm? Can they paint with colours from the chaos storm?
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
ProV1
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States980 Posts
November 18 2012 21:59 GMT
#2270
How long before LoL takes as much mechanical skills as Yu-Gi-Oh! U know, gotta give dem foreigners a chance.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11880 Posts
November 18 2012 22:05 GMT
#2271
On November 19 2012 06:51 Ketara wrote:
But then it wouldn't be an experiment, would it Craton.


Seeing as you posted it here, there is a pretty high probability that it belongs into the qq thread. In that case you have probably won 0-1 of those 10 games.

If i were to see those statistics without the context, i'd say you probably won 3-4 of those games.
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
November 18 2012 22:05 GMT
#2272
On November 19 2012 06:59 ProV1 wrote:
How long before LoL takes as much mechanical skills as Yu-Gi-Oh! U know, gotta give dem foreigners a chance.

I thought Misaya was Chinese.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 22:09:52
November 18 2012 22:06 GMT
#2273
On November 19 2012 06:57 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 06:37 NeoIllusions wrote:
On November 19 2012 06:30 TheKefka wrote:
Haven't played pokemon online ever since a dragonite crit me with outrage 2 times in a row.
alt4

+ Show Spoiler [Obligatory comic] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Obligatory D'nite YT Video] +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qe9O90cD80


But seriously, like, when I heard Salamence got moved to Ubers I was so sad. At least I quit before then haha. But really. I miss Salamence in OP tier.

Back on topic though. Viktor changes that were accidentally put on PBE are not going through. They're waaayyy too powerful esp with some of the other stuff that had been thought about. You'll end up having undesirables playing him for free Elo, not people who really sympathise and understand what an AP Mid needs. Oh, how many times have we been misunderstood?

They think that we're ignorant savages. And they've seen so many lanes, I guess it must be so. But still I cannot see, if the savage one is me. How can there be so much that they don't know? They don't know...

They think they own the lane they go to lane in; that tier lists are a thing that you can claim. But I know every champion and minion has a life, has a meaning, has a name. They think the only champions who are champions are the champions who look and think like them. But if they'd walk the footsteps of a champion, they'd learn things they never knew they never knew.

Have you ever heard Vilemaw cry to the half born moon? Or asked Baron Nashor why he screamed? Can they sing with all the voices of the jungle? Can they paint with colours from the chaos storm? Can they paint with colours from the chaos storm?

X.X
You guys never cease to amaze me.

Pocahontas btw.
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Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
November 18 2012 22:06 GMT
#2274
On November 19 2012 07:05 Xacez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 06:59 ProV1 wrote:
How long before LoL takes as much mechanical skills as Yu-Gi-Oh! U know, gotta give dem foreigners a chance.

I thought Misaya was Chinese.

He is.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
November 18 2012 22:13 GMT
#2275
Cool stuff on TSM tourney atm. Quantic with Corki, Graves, Zyra, Elise, Maokai vs Curse with Ez, Blitz, Lee, Irelia, Ori.

Quantic looking really good atm, lots of damage with the double adc.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 22:18:51
November 18 2012 22:18 GMT
#2276
On November 19 2012 06:57 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 06:37 NeoIllusions wrote:
On November 19 2012 06:30 TheKefka wrote:
Haven't played pokemon online ever since a dragonite crit me with outrage 2 times in a row.
alt4

+ Show Spoiler [Obligatory comic] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Obligatory D'nite YT Video] +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qe9O90cD80


But seriously, like, when I heard Salamence got moved to Ubers I was so sad. At least I quit before then haha. But really. I miss Salamence in OP tier.

Back on topic though. Viktor changes that were accidentally put on PBE are not going through. They're waaayyy too powerful esp with some of the other stuff that had been thought about. You'll end up having undesirables playing him for free Elo, not people who really sympathise and understand what an AP Mid needs. Oh, how many times have we been misunderstood?

They think that we're ignorant savages. And they've seen so many lanes, I guess it must be so. But still I cannot see, if the savage one is me. How can there be so much that they don't know? They don't know...

They think they own the lane they go to lane in; that tier lists are a thing that you can claim. But I know every champion and minion has a life, has a meaning, has a name. They think the only champions who are champions are the champions who look and think like them. But if they'd walk the footsteps of a champion, they'd learn things they never knew they never knew.

Have you ever heard Vilemaw cry to the half born moon? Or asked Baron Nashor why he screamed? Can they sing with all the voices of the jungle? Can they paint with colours from the chaos storm? Can they paint with colours from the chaos storm?


It would seem that the musical virus is highly contagious and should be treated as such.

Saint used to be much better at Lee Sin as I recall, this game he's doing okay but not shake level lee. Kinda makes me sad.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
November 18 2012 22:19 GMT
#2277
I think it is worth pointing out that the siege minions give like an extra 10 or 15 gold at all points in the game, in the new patch.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
November 18 2012 22:20 GMT
#2278
On November 19 2012 06:59 ProV1 wrote:
How long before LoL takes as much mechanical skills as Yu-Gi-Oh! U know, gotta give dem foreigners a chance.


Then riot takes most of the winnings from korean teams and gives them to NA teams to "help them out of their hard times." This causes saint to continue to drink and beat mama elementz. Voyboy is then benched.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 18 2012 22:20 GMT
#2279
On November 19 2012 07:19 Dusty wrote:
I think it is worth pointing out that the siege minions give like an extra 10 or 15 gold at all points in the game, in the new patch.

I ALREADY WANT TO KILL MYSELF WHENVER I MISS THE SIEGE MINION RIOT WHY
anyway i guess it makes sense, i always felt that I was getting too few gold from him (compared to the exp at least)
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14144 Posts
November 18 2012 22:23 GMT
#2280
I'm still happy I figured out "rock and roll" for the amazingness that is jarvan/nami bot lane.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
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