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You sure it belongs in the QQ thread? Or does it belong in the awesome thread?
You must guess to find out!
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On November 19 2012 06:41 ProV1 wrote: What is the minion gold change.
No1 told me what the minion gold change was.
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Given that it's A or B and neither is this thread...
On November 19 2012 06:48 ProV1 wrote:No1 told me what the minion gold change was. They're nerfin' shit by some amount to make getting owned in CS less bad. Maybe.
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On November 19 2012 06:42 VirgilSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 06:37 onlywonderboy wrote: I think there might be some overreaction to the minion gold change. It's not like this change is going to allow current gold players to compete on the same level as a platinum or diamond player. Players with superior mechanics (Doublelift for example) are still going to be able to outplay opponents what are worse than him. The point is the exact opposite. It makes it harder for a player with superior mechanics (Doublelift for example) to exert lane dominance over a worse opponent.
Superior mechanics don't only mean last hitting. While the gold change will make it a bit harder, players like Doublelift are still going to be able to straight up outplay other players. I think it' definitely won't be as bad as people are making it out to be concerning the topic of LoL being made easier.
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But then it wouldn't be an experiment, would it Craton.
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this is a trainwreck about to happen and im getting my popcorn
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On November 19 2012 06:50 Dark_Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 06:42 VirgilSC2 wrote:On November 19 2012 06:37 onlywonderboy wrote: I think there might be some overreaction to the minion gold change. It's not like this change is going to allow current gold players to compete on the same level as a platinum or diamond player. Players with superior mechanics (Doublelift for example) are still going to be able to outplay opponents what are worse than him. The point is the exact opposite. It makes it harder for a player with superior mechanics (Doublelift for example) to exert lane dominance over a worse opponent. Superior mechanics don't only mean last hitting. While the gold change will make it a bit harder, players like Doublelift are still going to be able to straight up outplay other players. I think it' definitely won't be as bad as people are making it out to be concerning the topic of LoL being made easier. Being "not as bad as expected" still ends up worse than the starting point.
I don't want them devaluing the ability to CS because of how involved the process is beyond just the ability to right click at correct times (e.g. timing harass so you can still farm, positioning, dealing with setting up multiple low hp last hits under pressure, etc). This is an attempt to try and fix one symptom rather than the actual cause.
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On November 19 2012 06:42 VirgilSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 06:37 onlywonderboy wrote: I think there might be some overreaction to the minion gold change. It's not like this change is going to allow current gold players to compete on the same level as a platinum or diamond player. Players with superior mechanics (Doublelift for example) are still going to be able to outplay opponents what are worse than him. The point is the exact opposite. It makes it harder for a player with superior mechanics (Doublelift for example) to exert lane dominance over a worse opponent. I realize it's going to make it harder, but it should still be possible. Players that he's beat before aren't going to magically be on his level just because they aren't as far behind when they are down 30cs.
Edit: For the record I don't like the change, I just don't think it's going to be the apocalyptic doom and gloom scenario that a few people have mentioned. This isn't going to be the change that turns the game into Bloodline Champions.
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+ Show Spoiler [Obligatory D'nite YT Video] +
But seriously, like, when I heard Salamence got moved to Ubers I was so sad. At least I quit before then haha. But really. I miss Salamence in OP tier.
Back on topic though. Viktor changes that were accidentally put on PBE are not going through. They're waaayyy too powerful esp with some of the other stuff that had been thought about. You'll end up having undesirables playing him for free Elo, not people who really sympathise and understand what an AP Mid needs. Oh, how many times have we been misunderstood?
They think that we're ignorant savages. And they've seen so many lanes, I guess it must be so. But still I cannot see, if the savage one is me. How can there be so much that they don't know? They don't know...
They think they own the lane they go to lane in; that tier lists are a thing that you can claim. But I know every champion and minion has a life, has a meaning, has a name. They think the only champions who are champions are the champions who look and think like them. But if they'd walk the footsteps of a champion, they'd learn things they never knew they never knew.
Have you ever heard Vilemaw cry to the half born moon? Or asked Baron Nashor why he screamed? Can they sing with all the voices of the jungle? Can they paint with colours from the chaos storm? Can they paint with colours from the chaos storm?
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How long before LoL takes as much mechanical skills as Yu-Gi-Oh! U know, gotta give dem foreigners a chance.
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On November 19 2012 06:51 Ketara wrote: But then it wouldn't be an experiment, would it Craton.
Seeing as you posted it here, there is a pretty high probability that it belongs into the qq thread. In that case you have probably won 0-1 of those 10 games.
If i were to see those statistics without the context, i'd say you probably won 3-4 of those games.
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On November 19 2012 06:59 ProV1 wrote: How long before LoL takes as much mechanical skills as Yu-Gi-Oh! U know, gotta give dem foreigners a chance. I thought Misaya was Chinese.
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On November 19 2012 06:57 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:+ Show Spoiler [Obligatory D'nite YT Video] +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qe9O90cD80 But seriously, like, when I heard Salamence got moved to Ubers I was so sad. At least I quit before then haha. But really. I miss Salamence in OP tier. Back on topic though. Viktor changes that were accidentally put on PBE are not going through. They're waaayyy too powerful esp with some of the other stuff that had been thought about. You'll end up having undesirables playing him for free Elo, not people who really sympathise and understand what an AP Mid needs. Oh, how many times have we been misunderstood? They think that we're ignorant savages. And they've seen so many lanes, I guess it must be so. But still I cannot see, if the savage one is me. How can there be so much that they don't know? They don't know... They think they own the lane they go to lane in; that tier lists are a thing that you can claim. But I know every champion and minion has a life, has a meaning, has a name. They think the only champions who are champions are the champions who look and think like them. But if they'd walk the footsteps of a champion, they'd learn things they never knew they never knew. Have you ever heard Vilemaw cry to the half born moon? Or asked Baron Nashor why he screamed? Can they sing with all the voices of the jungle? Can they paint with colours from the chaos storm? Can they paint with colours from the chaos storm? X.X You guys never cease to amaze me.
Pocahontas btw.
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On November 19 2012 07:05 Xacez wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 06:59 ProV1 wrote: How long before LoL takes as much mechanical skills as Yu-Gi-Oh! U know, gotta give dem foreigners a chance. I thought Misaya was Chinese. He is.
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Cool stuff on TSM tourney atm. Quantic with Corki, Graves, Zyra, Elise, Maokai vs Curse with Ez, Blitz, Lee, Irelia, Ori.
Quantic looking really good atm, lots of damage with the double adc.
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On November 19 2012 06:57 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:+ Show Spoiler [Obligatory D'nite YT Video] +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qe9O90cD80 But seriously, like, when I heard Salamence got moved to Ubers I was so sad. At least I quit before then haha. But really. I miss Salamence in OP tier. Back on topic though. Viktor changes that were accidentally put on PBE are not going through. They're waaayyy too powerful esp with some of the other stuff that had been thought about. You'll end up having undesirables playing him for free Elo, not people who really sympathise and understand what an AP Mid needs. Oh, how many times have we been misunderstood? They think that we're ignorant savages. And they've seen so many lanes, I guess it must be so. But still I cannot see, if the savage one is me. How can there be so much that they don't know? They don't know... They think they own the lane they go to lane in; that tier lists are a thing that you can claim. But I know every champion and minion has a life, has a meaning, has a name. They think the only champions who are champions are the champions who look and think like them. But if they'd walk the footsteps of a champion, they'd learn things they never knew they never knew. Have you ever heard Vilemaw cry to the half born moon? Or asked Baron Nashor why he screamed? Can they sing with all the voices of the jungle? Can they paint with colours from the chaos storm? Can they paint with colours from the chaos storm?
It would seem that the musical virus is highly contagious and should be treated as such.
Saint used to be much better at Lee Sin as I recall, this game he's doing okay but not shake level lee. Kinda makes me sad.
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I think it is worth pointing out that the siege minions give like an extra 10 or 15 gold at all points in the game, in the new patch.
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On November 19 2012 06:59 ProV1 wrote: How long before LoL takes as much mechanical skills as Yu-Gi-Oh! U know, gotta give dem foreigners a chance.
Then riot takes most of the winnings from korean teams and gives them to NA teams to "help them out of their hard times." This causes saint to continue to drink and beat mama elementz. Voyboy is then benched.
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On November 19 2012 07:19 Dusty wrote: I think it is worth pointing out that the siege minions give like an extra 10 or 15 gold at all points in the game, in the new patch. I ALREADY WANT TO KILL MYSELF WHENVER I MISS THE SIEGE MINION RIOT WHY anyway i guess it makes sense, i always felt that I was getting too few gold from him (compared to the exp at least)
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I'm still happy I figured out "rock and roll" for the amazingness that is jarvan/nami bot lane.
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