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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 18 2012 20:29 GMT
#2221
If my math is right, doesn't this mean that overall gold in the game has been lowered?
Freeeeeeedom
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
November 18 2012 20:29 GMT
#2222
On November 19 2012 05:25 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 05:22 overt wrote:
On November 19 2012 04:57 barbsq wrote:
hmmm. I have to wonder if they disincentivize farming then why exactly am I not playing bloodline champions? The idea of promoting a 0 laning phase brawl fest really rubs me the wrong way, and removes a lot of what I like about how the game is currently structured (it's part of why I'm not terribly fond of TT or dom). Hopefully it's not too bad.

edit: IMO if they want to reduce the 'snowball effect' (which I actually think is a much smaller problem than ppl are making it out to be tbh) then they should introduce methods for the snowballee to come back into the game, not handicap the snowballer.


Lanes snowballing is a real thing. Sadly people bitch and complain about it because it somehow justifies them being bad. I've snowballed all three lanes because I outplayed my opponent. I've been snowballed in all three lanes too.

Lanes don't just magically get out of your control. You're either worse than your opponent or you fucked up and now you have to pay for it. Trying to make top lane less snowball-y might be a good idea but changing every lanes balance isn't.


I don't really understand them. The whole game is built around the idea of "snowball". I think the only way to really get rid of "snowballing" is to have powercurves but they attempted to remove that too so they just kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place.

The only way to remove snowballing is to have everybody win or to just make it totally RNG. Ppl just hate getting outplayed, but hate admitting it even more.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 18 2012 20:36 GMT
#2223
It's now about snowballing, it's about how snowbally the top lane is currently. Which is way too much.
"Here, jungler came at level 2, fake a gank so you lost cs even though the lane didn't push, now you're zoned till there's 1+ level difference between you and the other guy and you're screwed.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 18 2012 20:36 GMT
#2224
On November 19 2012 05:29 cLutZ wrote:
If my math is right, doesn't this mean that overall gold in the game has been lowered?


The age of Viktor is upon us.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 20:40:00
November 18 2012 20:39 GMT
#2225
On November 19 2012 05:36 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 05:29 cLutZ wrote:
If my math is right, doesn't this mean that overall gold in the game has been lowered?


The age of Viktor is upon us.

how u like the new viktor changesf?
also: am i the only one who always gets reminded of linkin park - crawling whenever theres a rengar
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 20:41:44
November 18 2012 20:40 GMT
#2226
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 18 2012 20:43 GMT
#2227
Eh, fun you say that, just got called a troll because I picked Viktor (couldn't show them that he doesn't care about Morg, someone dodged—not because of Vik, though).

Also the "changes" are only an old iteration of what they're trying to give him a better late game, it's not available.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
November 18 2012 20:43 GMT
#2228
On November 19 2012 05:39 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 05:36 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On November 19 2012 05:29 cLutZ wrote:
If my math is right, doesn't this mean that overall gold in the game has been lowered?


The age of Viktor is upon us.

how u like the new viktor changesf?
also: am i the only one who always gets reminded of linkin park - crawling whenever theres a rengar

What changes? Those new augments are not coming with the next patch....if ever.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
November 18 2012 20:50 GMT
#2229
On November 19 2012 05:29 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 05:25 Numy wrote:
On November 19 2012 05:22 overt wrote:
On November 19 2012 04:57 barbsq wrote:
hmmm. I have to wonder if they disincentivize farming then why exactly am I not playing bloodline champions? The idea of promoting a 0 laning phase brawl fest really rubs me the wrong way, and removes a lot of what I like about how the game is currently structured (it's part of why I'm not terribly fond of TT or dom). Hopefully it's not too bad.

edit: IMO if they want to reduce the 'snowball effect' (which I actually think is a much smaller problem than ppl are making it out to be tbh) then they should introduce methods for the snowballee to come back into the game, not handicap the snowballer.


Lanes snowballing is a real thing. Sadly people bitch and complain about it because it somehow justifies them being bad. I've snowballed all three lanes because I outplayed my opponent. I've been snowballed in all three lanes too.

Lanes don't just magically get out of your control. You're either worse than your opponent or you fucked up and now you have to pay for it. Trying to make top lane less snowball-y might be a good idea but changing every lanes balance isn't.


I don't really understand them. The whole game is built around the idea of "snowball". I think the only way to really get rid of "snowballing" is to have powercurves but they attempted to remove that too so they just kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place.

The only way to remove snowballing is to have everybody win or to just make it totally RNG. Ppl just hate getting outplayed, but hate admitting it even more.

Snowballing and losing are wildly different things.

Snowballing is about how a minor lead early equates to a massive lead the longer the game goes. This is especially true in many areas of the game, typically true with tops where one gets slightly ahead and then zones the other and tremendously widens the gap, but is also true with assassins and hypercarries.

A small lead shouldn't win you a lane or the game, but it should make the other team have to do something to even it out. Right now a small lead is a huge lead in too many scenarios.
twitch.tv/cratonz
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 18 2012 20:54 GMT
#2230
On November 19 2012 05:39 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 05:36 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On November 19 2012 05:29 cLutZ wrote:
If my math is right, doesn't this mean that overall gold in the game has been lowered?


The age of Viktor is upon us.

how u like the new viktor changesf?
also: am i the only one who always gets reminded of linkin park - crawling whenever theres a rengar


I only saw a few notes about some *supposed* viktor changes that got slipped into PBE accidentally.

I do not like what they are doing to him. He is perfectly fine the way he is. The only thing I would want would be for Q and W augments to be a little better to match E augment for different needs.

But as it is, he's a ridiculous powerhouse. I don't know why they are trying to change him...
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
November 18 2012 20:58 GMT
#2231
On November 19 2012 03:30 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 03:22 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:

Also, Aerodactyl leads were hilar in Pokemon. Always try to be cute and use Taunt against my lead-Azelf to block the Stealth Rocks and I'm like "lol kk" and just Psychic their face for 60%.


It's posts like this that make me realize how little I actually knew about pokemon


i'd argue taunting as aerodactyl vs typical 'suicide' azelf leads is the correct option more often than not. even if you psychic him for 60% he gets to SR on the next turn and you won't, barring a choice scarf on azelf, which would be immediately visible anyway. there are definitely teams that would trade 1 pokemon down for a SR up
cool beans
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 18 2012 21:00 GMT
#2232
On November 19 2012 05:54 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 05:39 OutlaW- wrote:
On November 19 2012 05:36 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On November 19 2012 05:29 cLutZ wrote:
If my math is right, doesn't this mean that overall gold in the game has been lowered?


The age of Viktor is upon us.

how u like the new viktor changesf?
also: am i the only one who always gets reminded of linkin park - crawling whenever theres a rengar


I only saw a few notes about some *supposed* viktor changes that got slipped into PBE accidentally.

I do not like what they are doing to him. He is perfectly fine the way he is. The only thing I would want would be for Q and W augments to be a little better to match E augment for different needs.

But as it is, he's a ridiculous powerhouse. I don't know why they are trying to change him...

wat ur acc id? i want to stalk on you lolking
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
November 18 2012 21:01 GMT
#2233
TL General LoL, where competitive Pokemon discussion is more than meets the eye!
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
November 18 2012 21:01 GMT
#2234
On November 19 2012 05:54 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 05:39 OutlaW- wrote:
On November 19 2012 05:36 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On November 19 2012 05:29 cLutZ wrote:
If my math is right, doesn't this mean that overall gold in the game has been lowered?


The age of Viktor is upon us.

how u like the new viktor changesf?
also: am i the only one who always gets reminded of linkin park - crawling whenever theres a rengar


I only saw a few notes about some *supposed* viktor changes that got slipped into PBE accidentally.

I do not like what they are doing to him. He is perfectly fine the way he is. The only thing I would want would be for Q and W augments to be a little better to match E augment for different needs.

But as it is, he's a ridiculous powerhouse. I don't know why they are trying to change him...

'cause since nobody plays him he must be bad.
twitch.tv/cratonz
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 21:08:23
November 18 2012 21:08 GMT
#2235
On November 19 2012 06:00 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 05:54 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On November 19 2012 05:39 OutlaW- wrote:
On November 19 2012 05:36 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On November 19 2012 05:29 cLutZ wrote:
If my math is right, doesn't this mean that overall gold in the game has been lowered?


The age of Viktor is upon us.

how u like the new viktor changesf?
also: am i the only one who always gets reminded of linkin park - crawling whenever theres a rengar


I only saw a few notes about some *supposed* viktor changes that got slipped into PBE accidentally.

I do not like what they are doing to him. He is perfectly fine the way he is. The only thing I would want would be for Q and W augments to be a little better to match E augment for different needs.

But as it is, he's a ridiculous powerhouse. I don't know why they are trying to change him...

wat ur acc id? i want to stalk on you lolking


ಠ_ಠ

Soniv

v Literally right there
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 18 2012 21:10 GMT
#2236
On November 19 2012 06:08 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 06:00 OutlaW- wrote:
On November 19 2012 05:54 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On November 19 2012 05:39 OutlaW- wrote:
On November 19 2012 05:36 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On November 19 2012 05:29 cLutZ wrote:
If my math is right, doesn't this mean that overall gold in the game has been lowered?


The age of Viktor is upon us.

how u like the new viktor changesf?
also: am i the only one who always gets reminded of linkin park - crawling whenever theres a rengar


I only saw a few notes about some *supposed* viktor changes that got slipped into PBE accidentally.

I do not like what they are doing to him. He is perfectly fine the way he is. The only thing I would want would be for Q and W augments to be a little better to match E augment for different needs.

But as it is, he's a ridiculous powerhouse. I don't know why they are trying to change him...

wat ur acc id? i want to stalk on you lolking


ಠ_ಠ

Soniv

v Literally right there

It doesn't say that's your LoL IGN. I could have swore you were once Sonivbob or is my mind playing tricks on me.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 18 2012 21:12 GMT
#2237
On November 19 2012 06:10 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 06:08 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On November 19 2012 06:00 OutlaW- wrote:
On November 19 2012 05:54 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On November 19 2012 05:39 OutlaW- wrote:
On November 19 2012 05:36 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On November 19 2012 05:29 cLutZ wrote:
If my math is right, doesn't this mean that overall gold in the game has been lowered?


The age of Viktor is upon us.

how u like the new viktor changesf?
also: am i the only one who always gets reminded of linkin park - crawling whenever theres a rengar


I only saw a few notes about some *supposed* viktor changes that got slipped into PBE accidentally.

I do not like what they are doing to him. He is perfectly fine the way he is. The only thing I would want would be for Q and W augments to be a little better to match E augment for different needs.

But as it is, he's a ridiculous powerhouse. I don't know why they are trying to change him...

wat ur acc id? i want to stalk on you lolking


ಠ_ಠ

Soniv

v Literally right there

It doesn't say that's your LoL IGN. I could have swore you were once Sonivbob or is my mind playing tricks on me.


Always been Soniv. There is a Sonuvbob
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
November 18 2012 21:14 GMT
#2238
where can i find a mastery tree for season 3 for me to play around with?
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
November 18 2012 21:14 GMT
#2239
On November 19 2012 06:08 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 06:00 OutlaW- wrote:
On November 19 2012 05:54 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On November 19 2012 05:39 OutlaW- wrote:
On November 19 2012 05:36 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On November 19 2012 05:29 cLutZ wrote:
If my math is right, doesn't this mean that overall gold in the game has been lowered?


The age of Viktor is upon us.

how u like the new viktor changesf?
also: am i the only one who always gets reminded of linkin park - crawling whenever theres a rengar


I only saw a few notes about some *supposed* viktor changes that got slipped into PBE accidentally.

I do not like what they are doing to him. He is perfectly fine the way he is. The only thing I would want would be for Q and W augments to be a little better to match E augment for different needs.

But as it is, he's a ridiculous powerhouse. I don't know why they are trying to change him...

wat ur acc id? i want to stalk on you lolking


ಠ_ಠ

Soniv

v Literally right there

No, that's your account name. Your account ID is 32214079. You're welcome.
twitch.tv/cratonz
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 18 2012 21:15 GMT
#2240
wait wat
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
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