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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Yes, Ice eats away at mountains. But it takes millions of years. How long can you last freezing melting and refreezing again? I bet you would freeze to death in hours latest. By that logic you should be like 1000* weaker to Ice that Rock is. ^^^^^^^^ also note that to destroy mountains ice needs to transform into water. You guys probably don't realize, but pokemon is not supposed to be a to-scale accurate and realistic combat between personified elements and forces of nature. Just saying. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
moutains dont rock slides beat stationary ice im saying whichever thing is moving is gonna win in terms of destructive force basically the whole elemental counter is based on efficiency based on equal masses meaning velocity is the clincher unless one substance is much harder in which case rock wins in that department | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
That's right. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
Explain to me the strengths and weaknesses of the Dragon type using sound reasoning based on real life physics. Or just keep this thread to LoL related stuff. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
Dragon types are strong, but they know their own weakness, so dragon > dragon. Also, everything, no matter how strong, has an Achilles's heel, and for dragons this happens to be Ice. Also, brain over brawn, have you ever tried to punch a bird, etc. To make this less off topic: I'm looking for another support. I played lulu on her free weeks and she was pretty fun, but I'm also thinking about waiting for Nami. anyone who played her on the PBE have thoughts about her? | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On November 19 2012 01:53 Scip wrote: How can you even argue that Rock is more mobile than Ice Teutonica? I don't even understand how that works. Neither of these things even move by themselves. Yes, Ice eats away at mountains. But it takes millions of years. How long can you last freezing melting and refreezing again? I bet you would freeze to death in hours latest. By that logic you should be like 1000* weaker to Ice that Rock is. ^^^^^^^^ also note that to destroy mountains ice needs to transform into water. You guys probably don't realize, but pokemon is not supposed to be a to-scale accurate and realistic combat between personified elements and forces of nature. Just saying. never would have thought | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
I would really like to add something LoL related here but I'm out of inspiration right now. Just throw out some topic and I'll edit in something about it, lolz. | ||
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Don_Julio
2220 Posts
On November 19 2012 02:14 Scip wrote: And no, I have never tried to punch a bird. Does something surprising happen? :D. It turns into an egg. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11620 Posts
On November 19 2012 01:55 Slayer91 wrote: glaciers move moutains dont rock slides beat stationary ice im saying whichever thing is moving is gonna win in terms of destructive force basically the whole elemental counter is based on efficiency based on equal masses meaning velocity is the clincher unless one substance is much harder in which case rock wins in that department But this makes no sense. Glaciers do not win against mountains. To erode the mountains costs them many times as much ice as they erode rock. When people with spears fight against guys with machine guns for millenia, you wouldn't say that the guys with spears win just because the machine gun guys slowly dig a whole to get lead for more ammunition to slaughter thousands of guys withs spears. The same thing happens with mountains and glaciers. Millions of tons of ice break, melt, or are otherwise disposed of to very, very slowly break down the mountain. It is not even a competition, the mountain wins by a landslide. And by the time the ice has eroded the mountain by sending wave of wave of their own to their death, another mountain has risen somewhere else. Don't trust the icy propaganda, mountains have always and will always win against ice. | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On November 19 2012 02:30 Simberto wrote: When people with spears fight against guys with machine guns for millenia, you wouldn't say that the guys with spears win just because the machine gun guys slowly dig a whole to get lead for more ammunition to slaughter thousands of guys withs spears. The same thing happens with mountains and glaciers. Millions of tons of ice break, melt, or are otherwise disposed of to very, very slowly break down the mountain. It is not even a competition, the mountain wins by a landslide. And by the time the ice has eroded the mountain by sending wave of wave of their own to their death, another mountain has risen somewhere else. Don't trust the icy propaganda, mountains have always and will always win against ice. ` that sounds like zerg vs terran wow` guys with spears expand all over the place reproduce a lot and keep throwing people at he machine guns guys until they run out of ammo and overwhelm them. its the fact that only a small percentage of people are devoted to a military army that made civilisation develop. | ||
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beefhamburger
United States3962 Posts
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2805198&page=47#31555614 | ||
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Dark_Chill
Canada3353 Posts
On November 19 2012 02:07 thenexusp wrote: Ice is not strong against rock in the same way rock isn't resistant to electric (even the anime got that one wrong). Pokemon is weird Dragon types are strong, but they know their own weakness, so dragon > dragon. Also, everything, no matter how strong, has an Achilles's heel, and for dragons this happens to be Ice. Also, brain over brawn, have you ever tried to punch a bird, etc. To make this less off topic: I'm looking for another support. I played lulu on her free weeks and she was pretty fun, but I'm also thinking about waiting for Nami. anyone who played her on the PBE have thoughts about her? Not completely sure about the ice<->rock thing and how the logic behind it works, but the dragon<->ice thing makes sense. Lizards don't do well in cold temperatures. Fighting types don't have the tools necessary to hit a target they can't reach with their hands/legs/etc. Flying types, on the other hand, are known to be fast predators, and can dart in and go back out of range. I didn't play Nami, but Lulu is pretty much a good buy. She's fun along with being a good support, so my advice is to get both. On November 19 2012 02:05 OutlaW- wrote: grass beats water irl, wat u talking about? Grass (plants) take in water in order to grow, so I guess that's the logic there. Water is giving the plant what it wants (therefore weak against) while grass absorbs the water (therefore strong against water) | ||
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Serelitz
Netherlands2895 Posts
I'm liking the S3 changes so far tho I'm a bit afraid that they're putting even less emphasis on mechanical skill. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
On November 19 2012 02:57 Serelitz wrote: Don't think I've seen a thread derailed this hard in a while. I'm liking the S3 changes so far tho I'm a bit afraid that they're putting even less emphasis on mechanical skill. they are? elaborate please | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On November 19 2012 01:53 Scip wrote: How can you even argue that Rock is more mobile than Ice Teutonica? I don't even understand how that works. Neither of these things even move by themselves. Yes, Ice eats away at mountains. But it takes millions of years. How long can you last freezing melting and refreezing again? I bet you would freeze to death in hours latest. By that logic you should be like 1000* weaker to Ice that Rock is. ^^^^^^^^ also note that to destroy mountains ice needs to transform into water. You guys probably don't realize, but pokemon is not supposed to be a to-scale accurate and realistic combat between personified elements and forces of nature. Just saying. Wait, are you guys NOT talking about Pokemon? Oh okay you are. Thread getting weird. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On November 19 2012 02:57 Serelitz wrote: Don't think I've seen a thread derailed this hard in a while. I'm liking the S3 changes so far tho I'm a bit afraid that they're putting even less emphasis on mechanical skill. I don't think there's really anything that erodes the importance of mechanical skill that much, there are a lot of strong items but none of them are click to win (except maybe Ravenous Hydra on Fiora huehuehue). And while not mechanical, the new active items add a whole other layer of complexity. I can totally see a game where the enemy Ashe hits her arrow to initiate a team fight, the support uses Mikael's Crucible but the enemy has already committed so you can turn and kill them. Those kind of possibilities excite me Edit: Okay, I think I know what you mean. Lowering the gold value of lane minions makes it so even if you are out playing your opponent and beating them in CS they aren't going to be nearly as far behind as before since the passive gp10 was buffed. Gonna be interested to see how big of an impact this has. Before 30 CS was a lot of be ahead by. Now is it going to be 50CS? That seems a little extreme. | ||
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