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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On November 19 2012 07:39 EquilasH wrote: My new team just got 2nd place in go4lol weekly Grats! Got to play any big EU teams? | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On November 19 2012 06:59 ProV1 wrote: How long before LoL takes as much mechanical skills as Yu-Gi-Oh! U know, gotta give dem foreigners a chance. I've never played yu-gi-oh but I was under the impression you had to do some pretty mechanically complicated hand motions to get the good topdecks needed to win games | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
On November 19 2012 07:51 TheKefka wrote: Does saint play anything else apart from mundo these days lol? Played Lee Sin last two game :p | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
played only skarner (but 1 game i think?) in lone star.. | ||
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TheSinisterRed
United States1546 Posts
On November 19 2012 07:52 thenexusp wrote: I've never played yu-gi-oh but I was under the impression you had to do some pretty mechanically complicated hand motions to get the good topdecks needed to win games You just needed to believe in the heart of the cards, as far as I remember. | ||
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Haasts
New Zealand4445 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On November 19 2012 07:45 AsnSensation wrote: who is the current sub for curse? name somehow sounds familiar, is he that guy that won the curse 1v1 tourney? Yea he is I think. Wombat spoke about it yesterday. He seems to be doing quite well. Wonder where elements is. Oh name is Rhux. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On November 19 2012 07:20 OutlaW- wrote: I ALREADY WANT TO KILL MYSELF WHENVER I MISS THE SIEGE MINION RIOT WHY anyway i guess it makes sense, i always felt that I was getting too few gold from him (compared to the exp at least) Well.. that reaction changed quickly. | ||
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petered
United States1817 Posts
On November 19 2012 05:50 Craton wrote: Snowballing and losing are wildly different things. Snowballing is about how a minor lead early equates to a massive lead the longer the game goes. This is especially true in many areas of the game, typically true with tops where one gets slightly ahead and then zones the other and tremendously widens the gap, but is also true with assassins and hypercarries. A small lead shouldn't win you a lane or the game, but it should make the other team have to do something to even it out. Right now a small lead is a huge lead in too many scenarios. Definitely agree with this. I am not sure that lowering lane gold is the right way to prevent snowballing, but I still hope they look for ways to soften the way a small lead can get out of control. I personally think they should lower the amount of stats you receive upon leveling up for all champions across the board. Even a one level difference is pretty huge at early levels. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 19 2012 08:47 Requizen wrote: Musing lately. When jungling, is it better to try and hit every lane as you can, or snowball the hell out of 1 or 2? Obviously you need to go where you're needed and what not, but when I'm in a game and all lanes are pushed/all lanes are frozen in the middle, and no one is inherently more gankable than the others, should I just focus on one? Or should I put a lot of pressure everywhere? Depends on jungler, depends on lane matchups. | ||
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WiseBagus
Canada452 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 19 2012 08:39 petered wrote: Definitely agree with this. I am not sure that lowering lane gold is the right way to prevent snowballing, but I still hope they look for ways to soften the way a small lead can get out of control. I personally think they should lower the amount of stats you receive upon leveling up for all champions across the board. Even a one level difference is pretty huge at early levels. You can't really *stop* snowballing. The nature of this game is that item/XP advantage leads to greater fighting ability, which lets you create pressure to build greater item/XP advantage. Even if you reduce the advantage per creep, the effect still exists. That said, IMO the real issue is the lack of options by which players can do something about it. The real regrettable thing about snowballing in top lane is the sort of "helplessness" you have in a losing top lane. There are a couple things to this: - Champion power curves. The comparative closeness in terms of item/level development on top laners has its own effect on snowballing. While more differentiated champion power curves creates its own potential issues, having wider differences in champion strength at different levels does help the issue of snowballing. Having champion strength/weakness at different levels outweigh item/XP advantage means that players can use those level timings to come back from a disadvantage, rather than just getting snowballed because their item/XP disadvantage is more significant than their timing advantage at those levels. - The isolation of top lane. This works two ways: 1) it's comparatively infrequent to see top laners leave lane to gank, and 2) it becomes increasingly hard for mid/jungle to gank top as the game progresses unless the snowballing top laner allows his wards to lapse carelessly. In the former case, top laners tend to not have much to do in the case where they're losing lanes. While there are certain exceptions (like level 6 Malph being able to gank other lanes easily and reliably), top laners for the most part just return to top lane, which means that the losing top laner repeatedly returns to an environment where he cannot do much. Being able to set your other lanes ahead when you are behind means that while you may not be able to go back and win your lane, you may still have enough of an effect on the game to outweigh your lane opponent's advantage, curbing the "snowball" effect. Whether this is an issue of top laners not playing actively on the map, or a case of the game not encouraging them enough to do so remains to be seen, but it is something to consider. The converse point is that how relatively inexpensive wards are compared to how much they allow a top laner to leverage their advantage allows a top laner to isolate the lane that he is winning. The most obvious way to lose a snowballing advantage is to get ganked, but this becomes increasingly hard as the money used to maintain ward control is comparatively small compared to the growing advantage. While this is partially curbed by reducing the gold advantage of building an advantage in lane, note that Riot is introducing an item that has an even bigger influence in the other direction--the Sightstone. The Sightstone means that a laner can invest in a one-time cost item that more or less lets them maintain ward control for *no future cost*. They just pay the one-time cost for the Sightstone, and then never have to buy wards again to ward their lane. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11743 Posts
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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