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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 30 2012 23:00 GMT
#61
This is going to be a long school week.

...and then the one after because Riot decided to split it into 2 weekends =(
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 30 2012 23:00 GMT
#62
On October 01 2012 07:30 elementz wrote:
OGN was single elim and bo1 group stage as well, it adds to the tension you lose you go home, every bo3/bo5 counts. OGN had a secondary tournament running in the background for the regionals sake...GSL has been single elim forever as well.

I'm aware of this. I'm just saying that league structures used in Asian tournaments are amenable to double elim formats.

On October 01 2012 07:30 elementz wrote:
TBH double elim to me has always felt greety from the side of tournament organisers to get in more show time to show everyone.

The advantages of double elim vs. single elim have always been fairly clear: single elim saves you a round of play (allowing you to start running Bo3/Bo5 stages earlier), and in return sacrifices the ability to properly resolve placements for rankings below the top 3 (because outside of the top 3, the probability of a team placing below what's representative of their actual ability due to bracket luck becomes extremely high). The thing is, in the vast majority of tournaments, this is an acceptable tradeoff because those events do not give out prize money for any placement beyond the top 3 spots. It does not matter that spots 4-12 were ranked incorrectly.

Now here's the thing: this is completely unlike these World Championships. Riot is paying out different prize values for every level of elimination. This means it actually MATTERS to resolve team placement below the top 3 because it has a signficant effect on how the prize money is paid out.
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Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
September 30 2012 23:01 GMT
#63
Another great writeup :D
Also wtf now moonbear and chiharu get their own section in the predictions
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 30 2012 23:17 GMT
#64
On October 01 2012 06:57 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 06:13 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
The lack of Dignitas fanboyism in this post is disappointing, but otherwise a nice writeup.


For all you dig fans out there, I look forward to see any NA upsets.

Up to scarra and co, to prove our predictions wrong. Our predictions aren't without basis. :3


Fanboyism doesn't require basis. Just blind love.
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FindMeInKenya
Profile Joined February 2011
United States797 Posts
September 30 2012 23:21 GMT
#65
This is such an amazing write up. THank you for your efforts.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
September 30 2012 23:39 GMT
#66
Nice writeup. good bunch of content to keep anyone and everyone entertained. Few typo's here are there, so it could've used another pass over with the editing comb, but considering how much work you guys put in to it, they aren't a big deal.
soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
September 30 2012 23:47 GMT
#67
It would be interesting to see the change in power ranking+predictions if CLG.EU managed to 3-0 frost in the finals.
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Imbu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States903 Posts
September 30 2012 23:54 GMT
#68
Damn sick writeup! This weekend is going to be so amazing~
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Anxiety
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States650 Posts
October 01 2012 00:32 GMT
#69
How many other mid plane players can even play half of those champions at a competitive level?


For Invictus, should be mid lane (I hope).
DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
October 01 2012 00:33 GMT
#70
I'm getting into the habit of expecting these write-ups to get better with each one. keep them comin!
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Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
October 01 2012 00:38 GMT
#71
good writeup guys! I expect to meet the coverage people at the Grandfinals, if not I am going to be mighty upset you!
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 01 2012 00:38 GMT
#72
Yeah, as much as my TSM fanboi-ism will show, there's definitely a soft spot in my heart for iG.

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Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-01 00:47:43
October 01 2012 00:47 GMT
#73
I wish they would just combine all of Asia as a region, and then add one more slot for each region. Would make for better competition imo (maybe add 2 for Asia as League is growing so fast there).
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
October 01 2012 01:05 GMT
#74
This is excellent Moonbear. Great job.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 01 2012 01:50 GMT
#75
Top 4:

TSM, M5, Frost, CLG.eu

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Eladir
Profile Joined September 2011
Greece467 Posts
October 01 2012 02:17 GMT
#76
Wow, incredible article. Congratz to all who worked on it.

I'm a CLG fanboy since forever, hopefully they do well in this tournament though few expect them to.

Looking forward to the event. Imo the format sucks but whatever, hopefully season 3 will be much better.
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TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
October 01 2012 03:02 GMT
#77
I'm expecting the Asian teams to get crushed. Really do think it'll be some mix of TSM/M5/CLG.eu.

M5 and TSM both play such insanely aggressive map dominance-early game styles that I don't think the Asians will be able to handle it. When M5 grabs everyone at 7 minutes, 5-man dives your bottom lane and picks up your blue buff/dragon what is IG or Naijin gonna do? lose, thats what.

Am going to be cheering for my CLG.eu the whole way. ^^

PS: I'd forgotten how awesome that Carmac/Scarra interview was, ten minutes of laughter all over again.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
October 01 2012 03:14 GMT
#78
Wow, Amazing writeup. Thank you guys so much for putting your time and effort into writing this. Hype hype hype!! I think Frost, iG and M5 will be the final three. But I am rooting for SAJ, not only because they are from Vietnam but also they have the best team name evar .
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Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
October 01 2012 03:23 GMT
#79
Iam going to watch the finals in a bar with a nice burger in my mouth and beer at 11 am!
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-01 03:49:47
October 01 2012 03:40 GMT
#80
On October 01 2012 12:02 TheLink wrote:
I'm expecting the Asian teams to get crushed. Really do think it'll be some mix of TSM/M5/CLG.eu.

M5 and TSM both play such insanely aggressive map dominance-early game styles that I don't think the Asians will be able to handle it. When M5 grabs everyone at 7 minutes, 5-man dives your bottom lane and picks up your blue buff/dragon what is IG or Naijin gonna do? lose, thats what.

Am going to be cheering for my CLG.eu the whole way. ^^

PS: I'd forgotten how awesome that Carmac/Scarra interview was, ten minutes of laughter all over again.

If you think that kind of style is exclusive to M5 and TSM, you haven't been watching enough Asian LoL recently. Or not respecting how much of TSM's recent early-aggression style was learnt after losing to Azubu Blaze playing an early-game oriented style.

The biggest liability for TSM and M5 going into this tournament is their lack of experience playing with/on other regions. Compared to the other qualifiers from their regions, they have vastly less cross-continent playing experience (Dignitas, CLG.EU, and CLG.NA all have much greater experience playing in overseas events). It's also potentially an asset given that they also have not exposed fairly little of their playstyle to teams in other regions, but IMO there's much more to be gained from having cross-continent play experience than to be lost.

That said, it's also an ENORMOUS advantage for both teams that they are seeded into the Ro8--and the two Asian Ro8 seeds are arguably much weaker than the teams most likely to make it out of groups.
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