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NeoIllusions
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TheYango
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On October 01 2012 05:30 HazMat wrote: 0 Dignitas predictions. Haters. Realistically their chance of getting out of groupstage is actually still pretty good. They just need to lock their win against SAJ and sneak a win against either Najin or CLG.EU, and they can tiebreak or better (and if Riot is still using the time rule for tiebreakers, those are basically a coin toss). Also, calling top 4 is pretty much a crapshoot due to the unknown bracketing and this being a single elim event (which I think is incredibly inappropriate for an event thats paying out prize money for all placements). | ||
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CeriseCherries
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phyvo
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Diamond
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TheYango
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On October 01 2012 05:43 phyvo wrote: Last I heard Riot is not using a time based tiebreaker rule and instead will be using honest to goodness tiebreaker games. Thank god. | ||
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
so .. fast .. <3 lilballz | ||
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AUGcodon
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WaveofShadow
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Chiharu Harukaze
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I also agree that this should really be double elimination. So much on the line and so much tension. Oh well.  On October 01 2012 05:52 WaveofShadow wrote: You realize now you guys have set the bar so goddamn high it's going to take you a week's worth of 28-hour days to top this for the Championships Wrap-up. Most likely we will be splitting it up into chunks because the amount of work required would kill at least one of us otherwise. @_@ Although would people still be willing to read TL Review Part 3 in early November? Hm. | ||
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Perplex
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R11
Canada213 Posts
Just a thought... Anyone else feel both Korean teams are very likely to have a top 3 finish? Aside from strong skill, the Koreans probably studied the crap out of the other teams to get Frost and Sword a strong finish in the tournament. I am also quite intrigued to what CLG NA/Dig will pull out of their hats and if standard play from TSM can lead them to victory. | ||
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overt
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On October 01 2012 05:41 TheYango wrote: Also, calling top 4 is pretty much a crapshoot due to the unknown bracketing and this being a single elim event (which I think is incredibly inappropriate for an event thats paying out prize money for all placements). Yeah, this is the hardest thing. Like theoretically M5 or TSM could get the short end of the stick and be against Frost, CLGeu, or iG or something in quarterfinals. All three of which could realistically eliminate those two. While most people seem convinced that Frost/iG and Najin/CLGeu are the likely contenders to get out of groups I think that people should remember that Dignitas was probably the first team in the world (or at least in NA) to meticulously study the meta and prepare crazy strategies for it. It's one of the reasons why Rock Solid became so dominant and why they got picked up by Dignitas. CLGna, at least according to Chau/DL, feels they have no chance to win all of S2 and are instead investing heavily in just getting out of group stages. The four teams that people are predicting to win all have championship aspirations and have to be prepared for literally every team there on day 1 and 2. CLG/Dignitas are both very likely just preparing for their groups. Making any sort of predictions are fun and stuff I guess. But I honestly think that TPA has just as much of a chance as M5 at winning the entire thing, despite how low they were power ranked at. Even teams like CLGna, Dignitas, and SK could go on a hot streak and go really deep (or potentially win it all). This was a really good write-up though. I enjoyed it a ton! | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
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On October 01 2012 05:52 AUGcodon wrote: I like how TSM is top 3 powerank but only "1" editor predict a top 4 finish. I am a TSM fanboi but I think they are basically 50/50 if they meet IG or CLG EU in the quarters. The biggest problem for TSM will be who they get paired with once the full bracket is released. TSM are notorious for always dropping the first Bo3 in the finals of a LAN against CLG before winning the second. That doesn't bode well for them in a single elimination bracket against a team who've just come hot out of the group stages, especially if it's someone like Azubu`Frost. It'll be interesting nevertheless. | ||
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JBright
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Redbeard's answer to tiebreak question On October 01 2012 05:52 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: I can confirm that tie-breakers will be decided with actual games instead of time-based rules. I also agree that this should really be double elimination. So much on the line and so much tension. Oh well. Most likely we will be splitting it up into chunks because the amount of work required would kill at least one of us otherwise. @_@ Although would people still be willing to read TL Review Part 3 in early November? Hm. I'm sure this preview has killed MoonBear already (Isn't that why Chiharu is posting  ) so it's up to Neo or myself to step up to the plate. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 01 2012 05:52 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: I also agree that this should really be double elimination. So much on the line and so much tension. Oh well. I don't think it would matter so much if Riot were paying only top 3 prizes or something. Single Elim means you can play Bo3s/Bo5s earlier in the bracket because you don't have that extra round of play, which is also a good thing. But the thing is, Single Elim is more subject to teams being eliminated earlier than they should due to bad bracketing (we already see this rearing its ugly head given the potential bracket arrangements that could eliminate a finals contender in the Ro8). This doesn't matter as much when only the top 3 prizes are being paid out because placing 4th and placing 8th aren't really different so being eliminated early doesn't matter as much. But since Riot is paying different prize amounts for every place, down to 12th, it matters a whole lot if some unlucky team that could have placed 4th gets eliminated in Ro8 by the eventual champions. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On October 01 2012 05:53 Perplex wrote: I'm still hoping dignitas surprises everyone with a new innovative strategy and wins it :3 fantastic write-up as always though. I'm hoping there's going to be a lot of speshul taktiks thrown around since a lot of the top teams were practicing their stuff in secret. At the very least I'm just hoping for many exciting series! Sort of off-topic, but Neo, is there a way to find out how much new user traffic these posts (or LAN LR threads) generate? I would think that the quality of this stuff draws more and more people to the Subforum, but then again I'm not sure how many really new posters we've seen in the last little while. Maybe just more lurkers? | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
It might be 'better' for prizing or for giving teams that make a mistake a chance. But it's gonna be a lot more tense and a lot more emotional to have single elim. Plus the grand finals won't totally suck. @yango: Yeah but then inevitably someone will bitch about the winner's bracket finalist not having an advantage in the grand finals so it's lose-lose for Riot either way. Imagine how pissed people would be if TSM was the winner bracket finals but then lost a bo5 to Frost who came from loser's. I realize it doesn't matter that people get pissed, but I think the amount of bitching for a single elim will be significantly less than the bitching if this was double elim. Also, I think Riot is really wanting to make LoL much more professional. League basically had its own circuit for over a year to determine these seedings. Having it also be a double elim finals would be pretty ridiculous. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 01 2012 06:00 overt wrote: I think single elim makes it a lot more exciting. If this was double elim the grand finals would have a team up an entire bo3 which really kills a lot of the excitement for a grand finals imo. Not necessarily. That depends on the format. TI2 had the double elim finals as Bo5 with no game/set advantage for the WB winner, for example. | ||
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fcgog
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