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Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
October 01 2012 13:46 GMT
#101
Comon, TSM, I believe :D
captharlock
Profile Joined September 2010
United States223 Posts
October 01 2012 14:27 GMT
#102
Nice read. Very excited to watch this.
Baneslayer Angel could be hungover, slightly blind, and texting while flying and still win the game
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
October 01 2012 15:59 GMT
#103
Embrace progress.

This is M5's to lose.
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2474 Posts
October 01 2012 16:18 GMT
#104
CLG.NA vs M5 in the finals! Come on baby, make it happen! m5 taking it all though. I can't wait to watch their LAN play again, I hope they absolutely crush everybody.
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
October 01 2012 16:34 GMT
#105
iG seems overrated.

strengths:
1. Farming
2. Champ select swapping
3. Team fight positioning

weaknesses:
1. No international experience
2. Inconsistent

A diligent top team should be able to prepare against iG and punish them for their aggressiveness. Weaker teams will just get out-riced.
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
October 01 2012 16:37 GMT
#106
Predicting a sweep of Korean teams + M5
Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
October 01 2012 16:41 GMT
#107
Rooting for TSM but I think iG will pull some major upsets. Thanks to all the writers and editors for this amazing preview.
"Alán Shore" and "August Terran" @ LoL EUW - liquidparty
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-01 18:03:59
October 01 2012 18:02 GMT
#108
On October 02 2012 01:34 azndsh wrote:
iG seems overrated.

strengths:
1. Farming
2. Champ select swapping
3. Team fight positioning

weaknesses:
1. No international experience
2. Inconsistent

A diligent top team should be able to prepare against iG and punish them for their aggressiveness. Weaker teams will just get out-riced.


A lot of the players on iG played at IEM Guangzhou way back when against SK and CLGna. iG played CLGna a bunch at LANs in South Korea. They've also played tons of teams at IPL5 qualifiers.

They have about as much exposure to the NA/EU scenes as TSM and M5 have to the Asian scenes. But iG comes with running really really unconventional midlanes and team comps in general. If they make it out of group stages they will throw a team off in quarters. They will make M5 or TSM play from an uncomfortable/unfamiliar position if they get matched up against them in quarters (I'm not saying they'll win because of it, but it's a lot harder to play if you're uncomfortable with your opponents play style). Not saying M5 or TSM couldn't do the same to iG but I don't think either of those two teams is going to play anything other than standard (although M5's 'standard' is a bit different from TSM standard).

I don't think giving iG #4 in the power rank is overrating them at all. Of all the teams in group stages they have the best chance of throwing M5/TSM off their game and beating them in a bo3 imo.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 01 2012 18:34 GMT
#109
Has M5 faced any asian teams ever?
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
October 01 2012 18:39 GMT
#110
They have no international LAN experience (actually playing overseas), and factors like jetlag, nerves, etc. can all really affect play. I think their aggressive laning won't work as well against the better teams, and they're vulnerable to counterganking.

Not saying they're not good, but I think a lot of their opponents were caught off guard initially. That advantage will be greatly negated at Worlds.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 01 2012 18:40 GMT
#111
On October 02 2012 01:34 azndsh wrote:
iG seems overrated.

strengths:
1. Farming
2. Champ select swapping
3. Team fight positioning

weaknesses:
1. No international experience
2. Inconsistent

A diligent top team should be able to prepare against iG and punish them for their aggressiveness. Weaker teams will just get out-riced.

come on Yang where is your Chinese pride
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
October 01 2012 18:40 GMT
#112
On October 02 2012 03:34 HazMat wrote:
Has M5 faced any asian teams ever?

To my knowledge I dont think M5 has faced an Asian team ever.
lethal111
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada460 Posts
October 01 2012 18:49 GMT
#113
good write up! excited to see these matches.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
October 01 2012 19:55 GMT
#114
It's time to find my favorite team. im always watching TSM weekly but none of them impressed me.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
October 01 2012 20:40 GMT
#115
On October 02 2012 03:40 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2012 01:34 azndsh wrote:
iG seems overrated.

strengths:
1. Farming
2. Champ select swapping
3. Team fight positioning

weaknesses:
1. No international experience
2. Inconsistent

A diligent top team should be able to prepare against iG and punish them for their aggressiveness. Weaker teams will just get out-riced.

come on Yang where is your Chinese pride

T_T i like scarra! honestly though, I'm really excited no matter who wins, as long as it means spectacular LoL.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-01 22:07:07
October 01 2012 22:06 GMT
#116
On October 02 2012 01:34 azndsh wrote:
iG seems overrated.

strengths:
1. Farming
2. Champ select swapping
3. Team fight positioning

weaknesses:
1. No international experience
2. Inconsistent

A diligent top team should be able to prepare against iG and punish them for their aggressiveness. Weaker teams will just get out-riced.


they played alot against korean teams in the nicegame battleroyal. They even had a 8 win streak or something similar
second point is true though
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TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
October 01 2012 22:31 GMT
#117
Looking forward to the "I told you so" when TSM and M5 crush the Asians. ^^
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 01 2012 22:36 GMT
#118
Moonbear is bound to get predictions right, he had 2 chances O.o
liftlift > tsm
Lenji
Profile Joined October 2012
Korea (South)2 Posts
October 01 2012 22:47 GMT
#119
One wrong information on Team Overview map:

Najin Sword did not win 2nd on AZUBU Champions Spring 2nd. It was AZUBU Frost.
Najin won 3rd on AZUBU Champions Summer.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-01 22:57:55
October 01 2012 22:54 GMT
#120
On October 02 2012 07:31 TheLink wrote:
Looking forward to the "I told you so" when TSM and M5 crush the Asians. ^^


It could happen. Or the reverse could happen. But TSM/M5 winning against the Asian teams won't have anything to do with them not being prepared for aggressive counter-jungling lol.
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