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On October 16 2012 02:58 Ketara wrote:
They were both rushing it, every game.
Morello's already is very nearly a support item, but you have no excuse to get it because you can get your CDR from aura items and you can't spare the gold to get any AP. When 3/5ths of your team takes Ignite anyway, suddenly there's no point.
If its active was like "Nearby friendly champions (600 range) gain 50% increased mana and health regen for 10 seconds" or something like that, it would be buildable no?
And did they really build Athene's on karthus?
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Anyone saw Toyz point of view on other mid laner at the international ?
From his facebook
以下是一篇關於參加S2大賽12支隊伍的中路玩家分析，排名不分先後。
Below is a list of my analyses of the other midlaners in WC, and it is not in order of merit
SAJ_NIXWATER - 雖然他沒有頂尖的對線技巧，但是為什麼他們能夠取得S2的資格甚至打敗DIG多抱2萬5獎金回家？原因在於他們隊伍了解到自己隊伍的缺點找到最適合他們的META，雙中。這個META讓他們把缺點都藏起來了，迫使對手需要重新適應整個遊戲風格。
Not the best mid-laner mechanics-wise, but they beat Dig by realising their weaknesses and picking a most suitable meta. This meta hides their weaknesses and forces their opponents to play with a different style that is favourable to them.
SK_ocelote - 對線技巧不錯，但是不足以在世界頂尖選手中取得優勢，也是一位喜歡在6級前遊走GANK的中路選手。年代的過去，他的蛇女再也沒辦法在舞台上壓制對手，球女在S2資格賽對上CLG.EU曝光，小組賽再也選不到。簡單來說是在這次比賽自信的角色並沒有很多。
Good laning mechanics, but not the best, hence unable to acquire advantage. Likes to do pre-6 ganks. With the change of time he can no longer dominate with Cass, and his Orianna was also revealed in his games against CLG.eu, so you could say this time round he was not playing with champions he was very confident with.
CLG_Bigfatlp - 曾經第一季的神，遇誰壓遇，怎麼打怎麼嬴。第二季的到來，我也不知道到底是jiji退步了，還是其他選手慢慢的跟上腳步，相比起來他跟世界頂尖的選手對線技巧比起來稍微有點不足，導致小組賽中路都拿不到太大的優勢。振作阿JIJI!
Once a god in S1, he used to win all time, no matter how he played. In S2, I am unsure if he deproved, or if everyone improved, but anyhow his skill his lacking compared to other midlaners. Work harder, jiji!
iG_Zz1tai - 擁有一流的打線技巧，喜歡用雪球角色，例如蛇女，斯溫等等角色。跑線能力偏低，因為他喜歡一直壓制你中路，就是因為太依賴使用雪球角色導致他整系列比賽在後期表現得不太好，跟他對線需要更加小心，後期會戰要嬴不會難。
Extremely good mechanics, loves to use snowbally characters such as Cass and Swain. These champions are weak are ganking because he loves to dominate lane, but his propensity of using snowbally champions led him to do not as well in WC. Playing against him you should be careful and you will be fine.
WE_Misaya - WE目前來說算是一個全新的隊伍，兩位新成員加入，雖然台柱微笑依然佔領世界前三強AD。隊伍上的配合度不夠，而這次比賽他選用的角色包括Orianna，Vlad，Ryze。Orianna並沒有玩得非常純熟，而Vlad跟Ryze卻並不是隊伍中致勝的關鍵，嬴是穩穩的，輸也是穩穩的。
WE is a new time as of now as two members have recently joint in, though Weixiao remains one of the top 3 ADs in the world. The team synergy is still not there, and his champion pool this tourney comprises Orianna Ryze Vlad. His Orianna play was not very proficient, and his Ryze and Vlad play, while stable, was not spectacular.
NaJin Sword_SSONG - Orianna的操控者，在韓國S2資格賽他的Orianna表現得非常好，8強對上我們運用一些選角心理令他兩場都沒辦法選到Orianna，對線技巧不錯，一些中路視野掌握度不夠，除了Orianna以外他需要熟練更多的角色。
Master of Orianna, used Orianna in Korean S2 qualifiers, in Ro8 we made it such that he could not get Orianna. His laning is proficient, but his control of mid-lane with regards to scope is imperfect. He also needs to learn more champions.
TSM_Reginald - 也許他已經了解到自己再也找不到S1那種侵略的Style，他往後唯一有比較大影響的只有Karthus，當一個對線技巧不足以讓你打出優勢跑線能力也不足的時候，Karthus將會是最好的選擇，穩穩的農，大招就是全球支援。也許他會選擇S3中淡出職業生涯？我不知道。
He has already realised he can no longer play his aggressive style of S1, and mostly he is most effective on Karthus. When one's laning is not the best, Karthus is the best choice as he is a very stable champion due to his global presence. I am not sure if he will stay on for S3.
DIG_scarra - 西門夜說.NA，也許大家覺得我在釣魚，我並沒有:D。有一定的對線技巧，愛嘴炮，自大，把自己整個形象都破壞了。整個年度裡面最大型的比賽卻選擇了Kata，我相信這十二支隊伍裡面都不會希望自己隊伍的中路選手只玩自己想玩的英雄，下場就是被賽前排名12的隊伍打到爛掉。
westdoor0204 of NA. Some of you may think I am trolling, but I am not. He has a degree of laning ability, but loves to praise himself and exaggerate his ability, ruining his image. His Katarina pick was a poor one, and he played a champion that he wanted to play, rather than what was beneficial for the team, causing his team to place last.
M5_Alex.ich - 雖然這次比賽他被單殺的次數很高，不得不佩服的是他對遊戲的認知與經驗，這次比賽選用了EVE，Gragas，Zliean。EVE毫無疑問的把IG跟我們都打爛了，實在是想不出任何應對的方式，他會選擇用Zliean是因為他的被動與復活吧，對團隊幫助極大，只是有點過於執著在這個角色了，另外他拿手角色Gragas卻是上個版本被nerf過的角色，當然不會是致勝的關鍵，Alex絕對是我遇過經驗最多最讓人有壓力的一個選手。
I got 1v1-ed by him multiple times and died. I am impressed by game experience and his use of Eve, Gragas and Zilean. His Eve play was spectacular and destroyed both us and IG, and we had no counters. His choice of Zilean was probably because of the ult and the supporting power. However, he seems to have tunnel visioned too hard on Eve and Gragas post-nerf is less of a potent champion. Despite this he is one of the players that have made me most nervous throughout the whole tournament.
CLG.eu_Froggen - 很多採訪都有問到我那一位選手最難應付，我的回答是Froggen，為什麼？他是一個永遠都住在中路的玩家，個人操作技巧以及反應都是最頂尖的，隊伍給他的配合也是超過正常中路所得到的，試著想想看一級的Karthus會拿到四鬼、三狼、藍BUFF，導致Snoopeh的各種落後，當然我也很明白他們隊伍整個核心就是Froggen。而賽前我也跟隊友說CLG.eu在這次比賽幾乎不可能取得勝利，為什麼？因為這不是Froggen的年代，他曾經用過的角色一一被nerf，百份之百被ban的冰鳥，Orianna他也許不喜歡玩，幾乎就剩下Karthus了，這真的非常可惜。
Interviews ask me who the hardest midlaner to face is, and I always answer Froggen because his mechanics and all are all top tier and his teammates always support him. Snoopeh falls behind by giving him his jungle, because the core of Clg.eu is Froggen. I have been told Clg.eu would not have won this tournament because all of Froggen's godly characters have either been nerfed or banned, and he doesn't play Orianna, so all he can play is Karthus. It's a waste.
Azubu Frost_RapidStar - 決賽的對手，對線技巧不錯，但是在於中路視野控制跟四鬼的控制力不足，導致幾乎每一場都被我outfram，還有一點就是對上我們卻把Orianna放出兩場，不知道是隊伍的討論還是他自己的個人決定，這就好像對上Froggen不ban冰鳥卻又不選的情況是相同的，值得尊敬的對手，擁有最頂尖的Skill shot技巧。把Lux演化成另一隻角色，非常厲害的一位玩家。
I played against him, his mechanics are not bad. However, his lane control and wraiths control is somewhat lacking, and he got outfarmed every time. They also let me get Orianna twice - this is similar to not banning Anivia against Froggen. He is extremely proficient, especially with Lux.
TPA_Toyz - 至於我自己嘛....沒什麼好講了XD 只能說這次比賽的表現我很滿意。
I have not much to say with regards to myself except that I am satisfied with my play.
From reddit here http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/11il9l/tpa_toyz_opinion_on_other_mid_laners_in_wc/ (props to the one who translated all that).
I find quite interesting especially his view on NA's mid, for both jiji and regi he thinks they are (or need in case of jiji) changing their plays since S1. He's also quite brutal against scarra.
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lol at the international.
It was posted in the s2 world champ discussion thread. but yeah it was pretty good.
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On October 16 2012 03:16 Sermokala wrote:
lol at the international.
It was posted in the s2 world champ discussion thread. but yeah it was pretty good.
Ha my bad, didn't see that.
There's not a lot to watch now that the S2 final is over I feel bored.
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Calgary25977 Posts
Interesting. Thanks for posting that I hadn't seen it.
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nothing really too surprising still nice to see, big takeaways for me.
1)His opinion of Swain being a lane champion is surprising to me, I've never felt that way but clearly he knows a bit about the game.
2)Been waiting since regionals when Regi made Scarra look the fool for people to start saying he needs to improve (basically a lot like what has been said about jiji) except nobody has been willing to come out and say nice guy Scarra needs to step it up, until now.
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On October 16 2012 03:20 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2012 03:16 Sermokala wrote:
lol at the international.
It was posted in the s2 world champ discussion thread. but yeah it was pretty good. Ha my bad, didn't see that. There's not a lot to watch now that the S2 final is over I feel bored.
Post tournament emptiness, I know the feeling. MLG Dallas is in two weeks (they haven't announced the teams yet, but they were shooting for 5 NA, 1 KR, 2 EU teams.) so that will help ease the pain before IPL5 (which is shaping up to look like a great line-up of teams. Especially if Azubu Blaze ends up attending.)
Edit: Clarification of MLG Dallas
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reposting from s2 worlds discussion. my translation of toyz's comments, which more accurately expresses his sentiments and captures some of his flavour
EDIT: i realized this has already been translated on reddit. fuck me im stupid
EDIT2: nvm i think my version is more accurate
toyz facebook comment on the 12 AP mid players in S2. i took the liberty of translating them for you kiddies
以下是一篇關於參加S2大賽12支隊伍的中路玩家分析，排名不分先後。
below is the list of s2 ap mid players, not in order of ranking
SAJ_NIXWATER - 雖然他沒有頂尖的對線技巧，但是為什麼他們能夠取得S2的資格甚至打敗DIG多抱2萬5獎金回家？原因在於他們隊伍了解到自己隊伍的缺點找到最適合他們的META，雙中。這個META讓他們把缺點都藏起來了，迫使對手需要重新適應整個遊戲風格。
although he doesn't have peak mechanical skills, how is it that they were able to obtain the right of entry to the S2 finals and even beat dignitas to take an extra 25k home? the reason lies in the fact that their team understands their own weaknesses and found a suitable meta that fits them, duo mid ~ this meta lets them hide their weaknesses, forcing their opponents to readjust their gameplay
SK_ocelote - 對線技巧不錯，但是不足以在世界頂尖選手中取得優勢，也是一位喜歡在6級前遊走GANK的中路選手。年代的過去，他的蛇女再也沒辦法在舞台上壓制對手，球女在S2資格賽對上CLG.EU曝光，小組賽再也選不到。簡單來說是在這次比賽自信的角色並沒有很多。
decent mechanics, but not enough to overpower anyone among the world's best, and also someone who likes to gank pre-6. times have changed, and his cass can no longer suppress the opponent. his ori showed a flash of brilliance against CLG.EU in the qualifiers, and he's no longer able to play it in the playoffs. basically, not many ap mid champs that he's confident of this tournament
CLG_Bigfatlp - 曾經第一季的神，遇誰壓遇，怎麼打怎麼嬴。第二季的到來，我也不知道到底是jiji退步了，還是其他選手慢慢的跟上腳步，相比起來他跟世界頂尖的選手對線技巧比起來稍微有點不足，導致小組賽中路都拿不到太大的優勢。振作阿JIJI!
was once the season 1 god, fucks who he sees, wins however he plays. around comes season 2, and i dont know if it's jiji that has deproved, or it's just the other AP mids who have caught up. comparatively, his mechanics are a little lacking compared to the world's best AP mids, causing him to not be able to obtain any advantage from the mid lane during the playoffs. get your shit together jiji!
iG_Zz1tai - 擁有一流的打線技巧，喜歡用雪球角色，例如蛇女，斯溫等等角色。跑線能力偏低，因為他喜歡一直壓制你中路，就是因為太依賴使用雪球角色導致他整系列比賽在後期表現得不太好，跟他對線需要更加小心，後期會戰要嬴不會難。
first-rate mechanics, has preference for snowbally champs such as cass, swain etc. not much roaming ability as he lieks to pressure you at mid, because of his overreliance on snowball champs, his lategame performance is usually not too great. playing against him you just have to be careful, lategame it won't be hard to win teamfights.
WE_Misaya - WE目前來說算是一個全新的隊伍，兩位新成員加入，雖然台柱微笑依然佔領世界前三強AD。隊伍上的配合度不夠，而這次比賽他選用的角色包括Orianna，Vlad，Ryze。Orianna並沒有玩得非常純熟，而Vlad跟Ryze卻並不是隊伍中致勝的關鍵，嬴是穩穩的，輸也是穩穩的。
the current WE can be said to be a whole new roster with the inclusion of 2 new members, although Weixiao is still one of the top 3 ADs in the world. not enough coordination within the team, and the champs he chose in this tournament: (ori, vlad, ryze) Ori: he didn't seem to be experienced enough with her, and his vlad and ryze were never the decisive factor in their games. when they won he was just around there (referring to his impact), when they lost he was just around there too.
NaJin Sword_SSONG - Orianna的操控者，在韓國S2資格賽他的Orianna表現得非常好，8強對上我們運用一些選角心理令他兩場都沒辦法選到Orianna，對線技巧不錯，一些中路視野掌握度不夠，除了Orianna以外他需要熟練更多的角色。
the controller of orianna (???), his orianna play during the korean qualifiers were very good. during the top 8 matches we used some draft psychology / mindfuckery to make him unable to pick ori. his mechanics are not bad, his grasp of vision around mid isn't enough. other than orianna he needs to train more champs
TSM_Reginald - 也許他已經了解到自己再也找不到S1那種侵略的Style，他往後唯一有比較大影響的只有Karthus，當一個對線技巧不足以讓你打出優勢跑線能力也不足的時候，Karthus將會是最好的選擇，穩穩的農，大招就是全球支援。也許他會選擇S3中淡出職業生涯？我不知道。
maybe he finally understands that he can no longer find that aggressive playstyle he was known for from season 1. recently the only champ he is able to have a large impact on the game on is karthus. when your mechanics / roaming abilities are not strong enough to produce an advantage from mid, karthus will be the logical best choice. play it stably and the ult is a global assist. perhaps he will choose to (something about retirement) in s3?
DIG_scarra - 西門夜說.NA，也許大家覺得我在釣魚，我並沒有:D。有一定的對線技巧，愛嘴炮，自大，把自己整個形象都破壞了。整個年度裡面最大型的比賽卻選擇了Kata，我相信這十二支隊伍裡面都不會希望自己隊伍的中路選手只玩自己想玩的英雄，下場就是被賽前排名12的隊伍打到爛掉。
西門也說westdoor.NA (referring to the fact that scarra played kat, something which westdoor is known for). perhaps people will think i'm fishing, but i'm not. has some level of mechanical skills, likes to talk his mouth off, arrogant, totally ruined his image. chose to play kata in the year's biggest tournament. i believe that in these 12 teams no one would want their AP mid to only play what he felt like playing. in the next match they got creamed by the team ranked 12th in the tournament~
M5_Alex.ich - 雖然這次比賽他被單殺的次數很高，不得不佩服的是他對遊戲的認知與經驗，這次比賽選用了EVE，Gragas，Zliean。EVE毫無疑問的把IG跟我們都打爛了，實在是想不出任何應對的方式，他會選擇用Zliean是因為他的被動與復活吧，對團隊幫助極大，只是有點過於執著在這個角色了，另外他拿手角色Gragas卻是上個版本被nerf過的角色，當然不會是致勝的關鍵，Alex絕對是我遇過經驗最多最讓人有壓力的一個選手。
although he was solo killed pretty often in this tournament, i can't help but respect (take a hat off to) his understanding of the game. in this tourney he used eve, gragas and zilean. his eve raped us and iG, no questions asked, totally can't think of any counter strat for that. he chose zilean probably for his speedbost/ revive, which helps his whole team out a lot, although he is perhaps a little too stubborn about this particular champ. another one of his best champs gragas has actually been nerfed in the previous patch, so it's obviously not going to be the key to victory. alex is definitely the most experienced and pressurizing player i've ever met.
CLG.eu_Froggen - 很多採訪都有問到我那一位選手最難應付，我的回答是Froggen，為什麼？他是一個永遠都住在中路的玩家，個人操作技巧以及反應都是最頂尖的，隊伍給他的配合也是超過正常中路所得到的，試著想想看一級的Karthus會拿到四鬼、三狼、藍BUFF，導致Snoopeh的各種落後，當然我也很明白他們隊伍整個核心就是Froggen。而賽前我也跟隊友說CLG.eu在這次比賽幾乎不可能取得勝利，為什麼？因為這不是Froggen的年代，他曾經用過的角色一一被nerf，百份之百被ban的冰鳥，Orianna他也許不喜歡玩，幾乎就剩下Karthus了，這真的非常可惜。
a lot of interviews have asked me which player i find the hardest to face. my answer is Froggen. why? he is a player who perpetually lives at mid lane. peak mechanics and reactions. the support / coordination he gets from his team is also way beyond what most normal AP mid players get. try to imagine a level 1 karthus who gets wraiths, wolves, blue buff, inevitably causing snoopeh to fall behind. of course i also understand this is because the core of their team is Froggen. before the tournament i said to my team that CLG.eu can't win this tournament. why? because it's not froggen's era. the champs he used to play have been nerfed, anivia is a permaban, perhaps he doesn't like to play orianna, and thus he's only left with karthus. really a pity.
Azubu Frost_RapidStar - 決賽的對手，對線技巧不錯，但是在於中路視野控制跟四鬼的控制力不足，導致幾乎每一場都被我outfram，還有一點就是對上我們卻把Orianna放出兩場，不知道是隊伍的討論還是他自己的個人決定，這就好像對上Froggen不ban冰鳥卻又不選的情況是相同的，值得尊敬的對手，擁有最頂尖的Skill shot技巧。把Lux演化成另一隻角色，非常厲害的一位玩家。
my opponent in the finals. pretty good mechanics, but his grasp of the vision / control of wraiths is lacking, causing him to get outfarmed by me every game. another thing is that he let us get ori twice, not sure if this is what his team decided on after discussion or if it's his personal decision. this is kind of like facing froggen, not banning aniv and not picking it either. a respectable opponent, really really good at skillshots. turned lux into a whole new champ, a really powerful player.
TPA_Toyz - 至於我自己嘛....沒什麼好講了XD 只能說這次比賽的表現我很滿意。
as for me....not much i have to say XD can only say that i am very pleased with my performance this tournament~
這幾天也許會發更多的文章讓大家了解更多你們不知道的事情，敬請期待 lol...
these few days perhaps i'll write more essays to let everyone understand more about the things that you wouldn't have known, please look forward to it lol...
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Pretty impressive how oddone and froggen can both pull off 20 k viewers for their stream at the same time.
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On October 16 2012 03:20 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2012 03:16 Sermokala wrote:
lol at the international.
It was posted in the s2 world champ discussion thread. but yeah it was pretty good. Ha my bad, didn't see that. There's not a lot to watch now that the S2 final is over I feel bored.
I'm watching Froggen own it up with Lee Sin mid. Look at this match history http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/35819089#history
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On October 16 2012 02:56 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2012 02:52 Ketara wrote:On October 16 2012 02:38 Alaric wrote:
I'm more annoyed by the lack of cdr, tbh. Well, of course you can always buy cdr boots and visage on a lot of AP champs, but DFG is kinda situationnal (sure it can be built on Ori and Syndra, doesn't mean I'll make it core on them), same with grail, and Morello, well... I dunno, maybe I should give it another try, but I find that I'd pay a lot for its cdr compared to other AP items.
Of course there's still the elixir, and if you hog blue buff you should be set, so maybe being better at grabbing blues and not die till it's run out is my solution. Grail is fucking amazing on almost every AP champ.DFG is also really good. Morello's is a bit meh, but a lot of that I think is because there isn't much of a reason not to take ignite on a lot of mids, which makes the active bad. If taking Ignite was a bit less standard and Morello had maybe like 5 more AP on it, I think it would be a more arguable choice. Reality is AP Mids have probably the best choices when it comes to item selection. Could be better, but AD Carries and Supports need the theorycrafting way more. It was either Toyz or Rapidstar, but they rushed Grail almost game of the Season 2 Grand Final. It's just such a solid item. Gives you nice stats (90 AP is nothing to sneeze at) and helps a ton if the enemy invades your blue. I mean there are downsides of course, but the same could be said for every item.
Here's my theory on Grail. It's a much better tourney level item, than solo queue item. that's not to say it isn't great in solo queue, but it has a lot more power in high level pro-play. Extended midgame engagements, objective control, and constant map pressure, are all much bigger component in high level pro play. So constant mana sustain is valued a lot more. In solo queue you can get away with blue pilling more often.
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On October 16 2012 03:56 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2012 02:56 onlywonderboy wrote:On October 16 2012 02:52 Ketara wrote:On October 16 2012 02:38 Alaric wrote:
I'm more annoyed by the lack of cdr, tbh. Well, of course you can always buy cdr boots and visage on a lot of AP champs, but DFG is kinda situationnal (sure it can be built on Ori and Syndra, doesn't mean I'll make it core on them), same with grail, and Morello, well... I dunno, maybe I should give it another try, but I find that I'd pay a lot for its cdr compared to other AP items.
Of course there's still the elixir, and if you hog blue buff you should be set, so maybe being better at grabbing blues and not die till it's run out is my solution. Grail is fucking amazing on almost every AP champ.DFG is also really good. Morello's is a bit meh, but a lot of that I think is because there isn't much of a reason not to take ignite on a lot of mids, which makes the active bad. If taking Ignite was a bit less standard and Morello had maybe like 5 more AP on it, I think it would be a more arguable choice. Reality is AP Mids have probably the best choices when it comes to item selection. Could be better, but AD Carries and Supports need the theorycrafting way more. It was either Toyz or Rapidstar, but they rushed Grail almost game of the Season 2 Grand Final. It's just such a solid item. Gives you nice stats (90 AP is nothing to sneeze at) and helps a ton if the enemy invades your blue. I mean there are downsides of course, but the same could be said for every item. Here's my theory on Grail. It's a much better tourney level item, than solo queue item. that's not to say it isn't great in solo queue, but it has a lot more power in high level pro-play. Extended midgame engagements, objective control, and constant map pressure, are all much bigger component in high level pro play. So constant mana sustain is valued a lot more. In solo queue you can get away with blue pilling more often.
I agree with that, but I'll say that even in Solo Q, I will usually value Grail above, say, Deathfire.
The ability to kill someone, regain mana, to kill more people, is too valuable. Also, because I rarely play burst champion, i rarely value higher dmg over sustain
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The champions that the pros built Grail, like Anivia, Karthus, Ori, and etc. RoA would've been a better buy in solo queue game.
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On October 15 2012 05:16 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 05:12 maliceee wrote:
are sc2 pros playing more lol now? I feel like its been gradual migration i know of about 6-8 people who have played for a while but i dont think the public knows. none of them are very good afaik. some koreans might start switching as sc2 gets harder and LoL gets more popular in korea
haha youre the reason I asked.
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Yeah, but Nony's been playing LoL for a long ass time now. It's only recently that he restarted posting more in LoL subforums.
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On October 16 2012 03:54 Sabin010 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2012 03:20 WhiteDog wrote:On October 16 2012 03:16 Sermokala wrote:
lol at the international.
It was posted in the s2 world champ discussion thread. but yeah it was pretty good. Ha my bad, didn't see that. There's not a lot to watch now that the S2 final is over I feel bored. I'm watching Froggen own it up with Lee Sin mid. Look at this match history http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/35819089#history
Yeah I know, but I'm working at the same time and can't watch the stream. I always work while watching a tournament, it's like listening to radio, and I pull my head up to watch the big plays when I sense some tension adding up in the casters' voices ^^
That fucking history, 28-1-9, and with a penta LOL
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Uh... playing Wukong against Darius, I ult him under my tower. He's in mid-air, and starts his ult animation there, as if he never was knocked-up, and I'm sure he didn't start it before my ult (in case he's like Ez who can't be interrupted once he starts).
Dafuk.
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I had a weird bug like that today.
I was doing Lux support vs. Blitzcrank.
He was in the bushes, I hit him with my snare. Couldn't see him but I knew where he was and I knew it hit. He shoots a rocket grab right after I hit him and misses.
Somehow, the rocket grab moved his model out of the bush. He was clearly not in the bush but was still snared.
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On October 16 2012 04:05 wei2coolman wrote:
The champions that the pros built Grail, like Anivia, Karthus, Ori, and etc. RoA would've been a better buy in solo queue game.
I thought Chalice was at least standard on Anivia, seems questionable on Karthus due to the passive on E. But I would assume the pros are building it more for the AP + MR instead of the passive.
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On October 16 2012 05:17 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2012 04:05 wei2coolman wrote:
The champions that the pros built Grail, like Anivia, Karthus, Ori, and etc. RoA would've been a better buy in solo queue game. I thought Chalice was at least standard on Anivia, seems questionable on Karthus due to the passive on E. But I would assume the pros are building it more for the AP + MR instead of the passive.
it's a combination of all the stats grail offers, but if it was just ap and mr. Abyssal would be the go to buy, as it was for the longest time before the aura nerf.
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