EPT@Scip I also think purple side is OP as fuck
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
@Scip I also think purple side is OP as fuck | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On September 04 2012 12:47 sylverfyre wrote: Yeah. Cop Elementz just isn't a super scary bot lane. qtpie Patoy is getting very scary - at least xpecial chaox level. Jungle, draft phase, and team synergy seems to be Dignitas' failings. And jungle looking bad may partly just be a team thing and not entirely IWD's fault - though he seems to have a lot of ill-fated invades and facechecks. There was one ward-checking brush facecheck into enemy jungler @ JBush at like, level 5, which lost them the early game one game. I had done that exact same oracle-wardsweeping brushcheck at level 5 a few days prior and I was like "cmon IWD, that's a 1300 elo mistake! Crs Cris? Makes me think of Criss Cross Idk man cop is tied with 2xL for my favorite AD carry. How many times do you see cop as the last guy in a fight picking up a triple or better? I think of bot lane as a unit, and when you see Cop wrecking shit like that lategame it can't be that bad in lane imo. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On September 04 2012 16:56 Seuss wrote: It's actually harder to gank top as purple for the same reason it's easier to gank bottom. That Blue -> Red clear isn't anymore "overpowered" than Shaco, it's something that's only strong because of the inexperience of the players themselves. Good junglers aren't so predictable and can clear Red -> Blue whoever they're playing, so that advantage isn't actually all that big. The asymmetry of the map is something to think about when making team compositions and strategies, but that's not something you really do in solo queue. No to all points. Top lane is easier to gank for purple early as long as it is not warded. The reason for that is easy access from small golems. Blue has only much clumsier and longer access from wolves. Once solo lanes are warded, which is a bit later in the game, tower diving is a good way to gank. You really want to dive bottom lane specifically, because of dragon. That is easier for purple side because of access from tribush. Red -> Blue clear is terrible on many champions, included but not limited to Skarner, Amumu, Maokai, Olaf. Blue -> Red is viable start on all junglers. The reason this favours purple is because you kinda want your duo lane bottom because of dragon. Also, Shaco is pretty good from what I have seen and played against and theoretized about. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Also as you said, those ganks are specifically strong with Maokai and Amumu, 2 champions who are awful at starting red buff. As such you know for a fact they can't countergank this lvl3 gank from purple side. What do you mean by "bot has compensation in doubles for the duo lane"? :3 | ||
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Schwopzi
Netherlands954 Posts
On toplane ganking; it's more on route for purple side (close distance from golems) but the layout with tribush makes it easier for blueside jungler to come from behind. This isn't always an advantage though because toplaners like irelia & jax love something to jump on to escape. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
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greggy
United Kingdom1483 Posts
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
On September 04 2012 13:34 Shiragaku wrote: Dear God...who is more of a douche? Ocelote or SaintVicious? Ocelote, because yelling at your team for mistakes in their lanes is only Saint 40% of the time or so. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Oh. They also changed her passive for W from "knocks-up enemies caught" to "slows 33% longer". T_T What a big hit for her, she was going to have Ryze-level gank assists at level 9. It's also a pretty big hit to her cc in general, especially in teamfights. Well, since she'll want cdr, 4.8s cd AoE nuke with knock-up may very well have been deemed too strong. Also she should be on PBE this week. And I missed the sign-ups by less than a day, damn. | ||
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Lmui
Canada6220 Posts
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
On September 04 2012 21:52 Lmui wrote: Watching froggen's stream, there's a 1400 alistar that has hit EVERY single headbutt pulv so far this game. Hasn't failed one yet. Makes me sad about my skill >.> Head pulv real easy with ping under 150 and steady fps. Don't smart cast headbutt, so u know when animation starts, then just spam q. Once you get the trick of it, pretty simple tO hit 95% npnp | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On September 04 2012 21:52 Lmui wrote: Watching froggen's stream, there's a 1400 alistar that has hit EVERY single headbutt pulv so far this game. Hasn't failed one yet. Makes me sad about my skill >.> I never used to hit them (I use smartcast), until someone told me not to headbutt until you know you are in range, now I hit 90% plus only noobs headbutt pulv, you gotta pulv headbutt like a pro | ||
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Hakanfrog
Sweden690 Posts
I´m gonna get a new jungler but I can´t decide between maokai and skarner, which one do you think is better/more fun (solo queue)? | ||
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Timerly
Germany511 Posts
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On September 04 2012 18:56 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Which side is purple, top or bottom? A really good way to remember which side is blue and which side is purple is to look at your keyboard for the 'B' and 'P' keys for blue and purple respectively. | ||
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Sven Stryker
United States423 Posts
On September 04 2012 23:01 thenexusp wrote: A really good way to remember which side is blue and which side is purple is to look at your keyboard for the 'B' and 'P' keys for blue and purple respectively. This is actually really helpful for those of us that turned on color blind mode forever ago. Thanks! Edit: I still wish I could turn on color blind mode in the game lobby to see the color differentiation in the "Your Team" and "Enemy Team" phrases. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On September 04 2012 23:04 Sven Stryker wrote: This is actually really helpful for those of us that turned on color blind mode forever ago. Thanks! Edit: I still wish I could turn on color blind mode in the game lobby to see the color differentiation in the "Your Team" and "Enemy Team" phrases. In pick phase, if you're first pick or first ban, you're blue side. If it's a custom game lobby, left team is blue side. Though if you're in blind pick, that's not much help. | ||
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Sven Stryker
United States423 Posts
On September 04 2012 23:16 sylverfyre wrote: In pick phase, if you're first pick or first ban, you're blue side. If it's a custom game lobby, left team is blue side. Though if you're in blind pick, that's not much help. Yup. It's just annoying when playing with a 4-5 man group that won't pick Draft because "it takes too long." -_- | ||
Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
somehow it seems to me that it continues | ||
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