EPT[Patch 1.0.0.146: Late August] General Discussion - Page 49
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overt
United States9006 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On September 04 2012 12:08 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: Since TSM.Evo has disbanded, there's always Nhat. But at the same time, he might be considering getting a real job instead of an unstable career. I don't think the poor guy has ever won anything. As much as I dislike Elementz's support play, you can't deny he's gotten much better at it ever since he got benched. Nyjacky has gotten so much better too. Westrice is the one underperforming here. You make a LOT of money at Curse though. Just look at their freaking mansion. Curse is a huge organization and they are pretty rich. Also, I think Elementz is still very bad. Those Blitzcrank hooks, I don't know. A particularly memorable hook was in one of the Curse vs TSM (?) games. Elementz as Blitzcrank was chasing a Nunu across the river. They had like 300 distance between them at most. Then for SOME REASON, Elementz decided to use the hook just as Nunu went into the brush. The hook obviously missed (Elementz didn't even have sight of Nunu when he casted the hook), which resulted in Elementz and stV taking at least 5 more seconds to kill Nunu - and this in turn resulted in the opposing Graves double kill cleanup. Yes maybe it was the pressure, I don't know. But when you level up your Q last and can only use it once every 20 seconds, you better think before using it. Considering Elementz only played like 3 champions in the entire tournament (the other two, Nunu and Sona, don't really take much skills), if I were him I would find a whole bunch of players (honestly any 1300+ Elo players can do) and just practice Blitzcrank hooks 10 hours everyday for before the tournament. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
Polbelter has like 2 years to go lol | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On September 04 2012 12:28 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Elementz has hit some godhand hooks though, you can't give one example and say that's the reason he's bad =/ I can land good hooks too. That doesn't make me good and immune to criticisms of my missed hooks. I am pretty sure every time Elementz played Blitz vs TSM/CLG, Curse lost bottom lane. The camera never showed, but I can imagine Elementz never landed a single hook during the laning phase. On September 04 2012 12:31 jcarlsoniv wrote: If anyone needs to be replaced on Curse, it's Westrice. Elementz has gotten way way better recently (after SV went off on him in a drunken rage - not pretty, but effective). I've never seen Salce play top, but he's a more talented player than Westrice imo Pardon me; is it even possible to call a top laner consistent? I thought everyone agreed already that winning the top lane has more to do with how much the respective junglers want the top lane to win. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On September 04 2012 12:37 BlackPaladin wrote: Elementz improved so much recently it's ridiculous. That saint rage really must have gotten through to him at this point. daddy saint beatin on momma elementz | ||
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
On September 04 2012 12:37 BlackPaladin wrote: Elementz improved so much recently it's ridiculous. That saint rage really must have gotten through to him at this point. So...I take it that there was a lot of fighting within Curse after the tourney? | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On September 04 2012 12:32 Sufficiency wrote: I can land good hooks too. That doesn't make me good and immune to criticisms of my missed hooks. I am pretty sure every time Elementz played Blitz vs TSM/CLG, Curse lost bottom lane. The camera never showed, but I can imagine Elementz never landed a single hook during the laning phase. Pardon me; is it even possible to call a top laner consistent? I thought everyone agreed already that winning the top lane has more to do with how much the respective junglers want the top lane to win. Junglers do have immense influence on top lane. That doesn't mean Westrice didn't make more than his fair share of personal derps at regionals. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On September 04 2012 12:28 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Elementz has hit some godhand hooks though, you can't give one example and say that's the reason he's bad =/ No one can deny that Elementz has improved crazy these last couple of months and no one can deny he's hit great hooks before but he needs to do more than that to be a top rated support player. Compare him to someone like Patoy :/. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On September 04 2012 12:41 HazMat wrote: No one can deny that Elementz has improved crazy these last couple of months and no one can deny he's hit great hooks before but he needs to do more than that to be a top rated support player. Compare him to someone like Patoy :/. Yeah. Cop Elementz just isn't a super scary bot lane. qtpie Patoy is getting very scary - at least xpecial chaox level. Jungle, draft phase, and team synergy seems to be Dignitas' failings. And jungle looking bad may partly just be a team thing and not entirely IWD's fault - though he seems to have a lot of ill-fated invades and facechecks. There was one ward-checking brush facecheck into enemy jungler @ JBush at like, level 5, which lost them the early game one game. I had done that exact same oracle-wardsweeping brushcheck at level 5 a few days prior and I was like "cmon IWD, that's a 1300 elo mistake! On September 04 2012 12:42 HazMat wrote: The obvious solution is to pick up Cris. Right guys? Crs Cris? Makes me think of Criss Cross | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
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On September 04 2012 12:42 HazMat wrote: The obvious solution is to pick up Cris. Right guys? Crs Cris. You're a genius Shake. On September 04 2012 12:40 Shiragaku wrote: So...I take it that there was a lot of fighting within Curse after the tourney? Two months ago, this happened. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On September 04 2012 12:32 Sufficiency wrote: I can land good hooks too. That doesn't make me good and immune to criticisms of my missed hooks. I am pretty sure every time Elementz played Blitz vs TSM/CLG, Curse lost bottom lane. The camera never showed, but I can imagine Elementz never landed a single hook during the laning phase. Pardon me; is it even possible to call a top laner consistent? I thought everyone agreed already that winning the top lane has more to do with how much the respective junglers want the top lane to win. If Curse can get Salce to commit to a practice schedule/consistent scrims, then sure. TSM Evo couldn't. It was one of multiple reasons Aphromoo left the team. Salce has a lot of natural talent, but you need to PRACTICE WITH YOUR TEAM to get better at team coordination. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On September 04 2012 12:47 sylverfyre wrote: Yeah. Cop Elementz just isn't a super scary bot lane. qtpie Patoy is getting very scary - at least xpecial chaox level. Jungle, draft phase, and team synergy seems to be Dignitas' failings. And jungle looking bad may partly just be a team thing and not entirely IWD's fault - though he seems to have a lot of ill-fated invades and facechecks. There was one ward-checking brush facecheck into enemy jungler @ JBush at like, level 5, which lost them the early game one game. I had done that exact same oracle-wardsweeping brushcheck at level 5 a few days prior and I was like "cmon IWD, that's a 1300 elo mistake! Crs Cris? Makes me think of Criss Cross I just don't think Cris is all that good, everyime i watch him play he just sits at tower and cries for jungle help. Cop Elementz may not be a scary lane combo, but Cop is a reallllllllllllllly good AD Carry | ||
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qtiehunter
1088 Posts
On September 04 2012 12:59 arb wrote: I just don't think Cris is all that good, everyime i watch him play he just sits at tower and cries for jungle help. I think he was joking  | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
On September 04 2012 13:04 MooMooMugi wrote: Cris in a pro team is just suicide But, he's on vVv! | ||
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