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[Patch 1.0.0.145: Rengar] General Discussion - Page 19

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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
August 16 2012 06:27 GMT
#361
On August 16 2012 15:20 UniversalSnip wrote:
they should just go back to this + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Ow my eyes.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 16 2012 06:27 GMT
#362
On August 16 2012 15:20 UniversalSnip wrote:
they should just go back to this + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Oh god no.
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 16 2012 06:28 GMT
#363
On August 16 2012 15:20 UniversalSnip wrote:
they should just go back to this + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

i really want to know what was going through the artist's head when they made that. -.-
Bwaaaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia969 Posts
August 16 2012 06:29 GMT
#364
On August 16 2012 13:56 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 13:49 Kaneh wrote:
On August 16 2012 13:28 Alzadar wrote:
On August 16 2012 12:15 Sufficiency wrote:
On August 16 2012 11:44 Alzadar wrote:
I've never really understood why people think of Trundle as a jungler. Everything about his kit screams "top lane" to me, and while I realize there is often overlap between those roles, in Trundle's case I feel like most of his skills are poor for jungling.

His Q makes him unbeatable for all AD-based champions, W and E make him tough to gank and a great gank-assister, and his ultimate makes him the bane of resist stackers.


I have a friend who plays Trundle top lane. I would say it's just as good as Nasus... yea.... he is melee ranged for the most part and he is pretty easily kited.


On August 16 2012 10:57 Slusher wrote:
Situational trundle time? When the other team runs malphite or double tank lineup

He is also very legit vs Mundo, honestly I get scared when I read these types of conversations because this kinda shit leads to the kat remake. There are 101 champions to choose if you don't like Trundle then just don't play him.

P.s. he is good

Also saying that flash makes pillar suck is a pretty dumb statement considering flash makes twisted advance, perhaps the most face roll ganking tool in the game also suck. A burnt flash is a good gank.


The problem with pillar is that it's not universally useful. Sure, if you try to gank a Darius with the pillar it will be good, but you can't expect yourself to succeed a gank against anyone with a gap closer. Twisted advance is pretty much universally useful because of the bind.


Nasus is one of the weakest champions in the game until he reaches a good level of Siphon stacks. Pretty much anyone can bully him. Trundle, on the other hand, is an exceptional duelist from level 1.

Contaminate + Pillar are a pretty good combo for not being kited. Sure he's not Irelia, but he's not exactly easy to kite.

I'd say his main strength is his ability to peel tanks and bruisers off of a carry. 50% resist shred, 45% slow, -20 AD debuff; suddenly that Jax/Malphite/Warwick doesn't seem so scary.


uhhh siphon stacks are the least of your worries and not the reason nasus is weak or strong.

trundle top lane is pointless because he doesn't require or use farm particularly well - like many people have stated, a fed trundle is notorious for his inability to carry. And pillar is pillar is pillar no matter how much or little farm you have. Same with the stealing on Q and his ult.


Are you saying he doesn't scale well? His W does scale with him though, since it's a MS buff and everything.

he is saying trundle dosen;t scale well with items. He scales incredibly well with levels but his Q is his only ability which will scale with items. This leads him to being built full tank but then you can be igored after you ult and pillar.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 16 2012 06:34 GMT
#365
After looking at Rengar's kit, I've determined that he is Riot solution to top Nunu.

What do we do about a hero that can spam a low-CD point-and-click ranged nuke that also slows, and heal himself? Make a hero that does the same thing, but without mana costs.
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schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
August 16 2012 06:35 GMT
#366
On August 16 2012 15:20 UniversalSnip wrote:
they should just go back to this + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


THAT'S REAL WTF
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
August 16 2012 06:35 GMT
#367
I am sorry if this is the wrong place, but does the name of the person here look like he would be from TL?
http://fatuglyorslutty.com/2012/04/18/allies/
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
August 16 2012 06:37 GMT
#368
I don't understand why we need a new Morgana art. The current one is awesome.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
August 16 2012 06:42 GMT
#369
On August 16 2012 15:35 Shiragaku wrote:
I am sorry if this is the wrong place, but does the name of the person here look like he would be from TL?
http://fatuglyorslutty.com/2012/04/18/allies/


Well there's this and this
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=140620
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/White-Ra (alternate IDs)

but I don't think White-Ra would do such a thing. Prob a random.
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Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
August 16 2012 06:50 GMT
#370
On August 16 2012 15:42 R04R wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 15:35 Shiragaku wrote:
I am sorry if this is the wrong place, but does the name of the person here look like he would be from TL?
http://fatuglyorslutty.com/2012/04/18/allies/


Well there's this and this
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=140620
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/White-Ra (alternate IDs)

but I don't think White-Ra would do such a thing. Prob a random.

I am well aware that White-Ra would never even consider doing such a thing. From what I saw from him in the years I have followed him, he seems like he would put Mother Theresa to shame.

I feel upset at the possibility that a TL member would do such a thing since we seem to pride ourselves on while not being perfect, but at least not a infantile brat like you would see on Reddit, the FGC, or XBox Live.
AG_Asylum
Profile Joined August 2012
United States14 Posts
August 16 2012 06:55 GMT
#371
After playing Rengar on the PBE, I can tell that he'll be a pubstomper in solo queue. He is just very difficult to play against. I don't know how viable he'll be in competitive play however, only time will tell that! I can say though that he has a pretty strong ability to counter-jungle
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R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
August 16 2012 07:02 GMT
#372
On August 16 2012 15:50 Shiragaku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 15:42 R04R wrote:
On August 16 2012 15:35 Shiragaku wrote:
I am sorry if this is the wrong place, but does the name of the person here look like he would be from TL?
http://fatuglyorslutty.com/2012/04/18/allies/


Well there's this and this
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=140620
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/White-Ra (alternate IDs)

but I don't think White-Ra would do such a thing. Prob a random.

I am well aware that White-Ra would never even consider doing such a thing. From what I saw from him in the years I have followed him, he seems like he would put Mother Theresa to shame.

I feel upset at the possibility that a TL member would do such a thing since we seem to pride ourselves on while not being perfect, but at least not a infantile brat like you would see on Reddit, the FGC, or XBox Live.


There is infestation everywhere. TL is no different. If you are really upset about it you're not condescending enough
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 16 2012 07:33 GMT
#373
thoughts on mid warding in front of enemy mid's tower? been getting different views from different people
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 16 2012 07:35 GMT
#374
On August 16 2012 16:33 zulu_nation8 wrote:
thoughts on mid warding in front of enemy mid's tower? been getting different views from different people

I....what?
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 07:36:39
August 16 2012 07:36 GMT
#375
it can help you tell if the enemy is mia or not. against people like morg who can just throw down one skill then roam it lets you keep better tabs on them. wards are also super cheap so it's not that big an investment.

on the other hand, if you just ward the river you can not only keep tabs on your opponent if they roam, you can also see the enemy jungler.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 16 2012 07:42 GMT
#376
In an even lane, you'd have enough vision of the 2 side brushes that it'd be hard to justify the mid lane ward because it's only giving you new information if they leave via the wraith ramp or the path to blue. But if you're maintaining multiple wards (which you have to be--if you're using a ward in mid lane, you still need at least 1 more to cover yourself from ganks, you could just ward both sides.

I think the mid lane ward is more useful if you're getting shoved to your tower constantly, and can't guarantee vision of the 2 side brushes. Then it covers a lot of ground that would be hard to cover without using a large number of other wards.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 16 2012 07:45 GMT
#377
but then westdoor does it as morde every game
Archible
Profile Joined August 2012
United States10 Posts
August 16 2012 07:56 GMT
#378
On August 16 2012 16:33 zulu_nation8 wrote:
thoughts on mid warding in front of enemy mid's tower? been getting different views from different people


I've done this occasionally, however I only use this when it's both teams preparing for a team fight and just waiting for the engage, other wise It seems rather pointless, but yes, I use this tactic.
Lowering Standards Of Quality Since 1995.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 16 2012 07:59 GMT
#379
It could also be useful for giving vision of mid when you're not there, either because you're ganking, or because you're taking either side's wraiths.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 08:33:44
August 16 2012 08:33 GMT
#380
On August 16 2012 16:59 TheYango wrote:
It could also be useful for giving vision of mid when you're not there, either because you're ganking, or because you're taking either side's wraiths.

I'm not sure I've ever really seen/noticed this, as I am bad at this game.
Where exactly are we talking about? Mid lane in the centre just outside of turret vision range?
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