EPT[Patch 1.0.0.143: MidJuly-Zyra] General Discussion - Page 53
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samthesaluki
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On July 24 2012 15:19 IMoperator wrote: Ok so I was playing a 2v2 aram vs. two friends, and we were master yi and ashe vs. morde and shaco. They ended up getting thornmail and we couldn't do anything to them. Is there a counter to thornmail or is it basically too OP vs. our champs? Really the best thing you can do is lifesteal...that mitigates TM a lot. Also AP Yi would have been a valid choice  | ||
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On July 24 2012 15:19 IMoperator wrote: Ok so I was playing a 2v2 aram vs. two friends, and we were master yi and ashe vs. morde and shaco. They ended up getting thornmail and we couldn't do anything to them. Is there a counter to thornmail or is it basically too OP vs. our champs? ap yi fuk the guy who spelled gandhi wrong beat me to it. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On July 24 2012 15:27 De4ngus wrote: ap yi fuk the guy who spelled gandhi wrong beat me to it. I SPELLED IT WRONG ON PURPOSE WISEGUY | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On July 24 2012 14:37 Sufficiency wrote: I donno. I think Zyra is more comparable to Lux. Zyra's Q is like Lux's E, Zyra's E is like Lux's Q, W is utility, and R is AOE nuke. Their ratios are similar,too, I would say. Not really... Lux's E is longer range, slows, and gives vision. Zyra's Q only does damage. Lux's R is massive damage lazer. Zyra's R is a decent aoe nuke with delayed knockup. The E&Q are kinda similar I guess in that they both snare, but Zyra's can snare everything it hits, whereas Lux's only snares 2 targets. Their Ws are nothing alike. I'm really not seeing the comparison. This is kinda dumb anyways lol | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On July 24 2012 15:34 Ryuu314 wrote: Not really... Lux's E is longer range, slows, and gives vision. Zyra's Q only does damage. Lux's R is massive damage lazer. Zyra's R is a decent aoe nuke with delayed knockup. The E&Q are kinda similar I guess in that they both snare, but Zyra's can snare everything it hits, whereas Lux's only snares 2 targets. Their Ws are nothing alike. I'm really not seeing the comparison. This is kinda dumb anyways lol Lux's Q is a double bind. Zyra's E is a pass-through bind. Damage and duration wise they are comparable. Lux's E is a long-range AOE spell with utility (slow, vision) and delayed damage, Zyra's Q is a long(?)-range AOE spell with utility (with W) and delayed damage. They have the same AP ratio and very similar base. Lux's W is a shield (utility); Zyra's W plants seeds (utility). Their ultimates are pretty different, but they are both large AOE... except Zyra trades CD and range for more CC/utility. | ||
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
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ninjakingcola
United States405 Posts
On July 24 2012 16:18 schmutttt wrote: Serious question, is there an ELO threshold where people stop permabanning Morg? Lol you funny kid. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On July 24 2012 16:18 schmutttt wrote: Serious question, is there an ELO threshold where people stop permabanning Morg? I rather ban junglers such as Alistar and Nautilus. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On July 24 2012 16:18 schmutttt wrote: Serious question, is there an ELO threshold where people stop permabanning Morg? You have to ban her at low elos or your entire team will afk, it's ok to not ban her at higher elos without getting flamed for a week. My last pick just dodged because he had to support. I love this game. That makes 6 ranked dodges in a row, including 2 on my team for not wanting to support. Did riot really have to implement this change instead of the -elo lol. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5713 Posts
On July 24 2012 16:18 schmutttt wrote: Serious question, is there an ELO threshold where people stop permabanning Morg? Shes banned regularly from 0 elo to the grand finals of MLG or IEM. | ||
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BreakfastBurrito
United States893 Posts
every single game | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
Yes he has a crapton of hard counters, ranging from braindead champ select counters to good laning/itemization, but honestly, he's a very very annoying hero to deal with in an unorganized, solo queue environment. Snowball + mobility = attractive reasons to ban him. Besides, if you want to FP someone that just gets shit on by Kass, what's wrong with banning him...? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
TEACH ME HOW 2 GET 200 VIEWER PLS | ||
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On July 24 2012 17:42 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: So many people like to bandwagon on the "lol u ban Kass you noob" train, but TBH, there are pretty good reasons Kassadin are banned. Yes he has a crapton of hard counters, ranging from braindead champ select counters to good laning/itemization, but honestly, he's a very very annoying hero to deal with in an unorganized, solo queue environment. Snowball + mobility = attractive reasons to ban him. Besides, if you want to FP someone that just gets shit on by Kass, what's wrong with banning him...? Why would you FP something that gets shit on by something anyways? Unless you're FP'ing morgana or malphite, you should wait with mid/top picks anyways. | ||
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
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Goragoth
New Zealand1065 Posts
On July 24 2012 17:59 Sponkz wrote: Why would you FP something that gets shit on by something anyways? Unless you're FP'ing morgana or malphite, you should wait with mid/top picks anyways. Except at low Elo players usually pick top/mid for the first two and then jungle, ad carry and support in that order. Sad but true ~75% of the time. Hard to organise swaps too when 3/5 don't say anything. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On July 24 2012 18:13 Goragoth wrote: Except at low Elo players usually pick top/mid for the first two and then jungle, ad carry and support in that order. Sad but true ~75% of the time. Hard to organise swaps too when 3/5 don't say anything. No wonder they're low elo players if they're that retarded. No offence to anyone here on TL ^^ Counter-picking yourself like that, is like calling the police to tell them you're gonna rob a bank. It's stupid as fuck, and you should seriously re-consider what you're doing. | ||
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