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On July 24 2012 19:10 Broetchenholer wrote:Nothing better then the last pick telling the team that he is going mid with veigar before any champ is oicked or banned or sth stupid like that 
Solution: Ban veigar
Well, it's my solution at least. Same with "AD or AFK", makes me pick AD instantly. Better a troll playing something less important than an idiot playing one of the most important roles.
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On July 24 2012 19:50 Morfildur wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2012 19:10 Broetchenholer wrote:Nothing better then the last pick telling the team that he is going mid with veigar before any champ is oicked or banned or sth stupid like that Solution: Ban veigar Well, it's my solution at least. Same with "AD or AFK", makes me pick AD instantly. Better a troll playing something less important than an idiot playing one of the most important roles.
All roles are equally important.
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On July 24 2012 19:29 Sponkz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2012 19:26 Fuzzmosis wrote:On July 24 2012 19:21 Sponkz wrote:On July 24 2012 18:50 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On July 24 2012 17:59 Sponkz wrote:On July 24 2012 17:42 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
So many people like to bandwagon on the "lol u ban Kass you noob" train, but TBH, there are pretty good reasons Kassadin are banned.
Yes he has a crapton of hard counters, ranging from braindead champ select counters to good laning/itemization, but honestly, he's a very very annoying hero to deal with in an unorganized, solo queue environment. Snowball + mobility = attractive reasons to ban him.
Besides, if you want to FP someone that just gets shit on by Kass, what's wrong with banning him...? Why would you FP something that gets shit on by something anyways? Unless you're FP'ing morgana or malphite, you should wait with mid/top picks anyways. Because solo q LoL is a completely different game than "competitive" LoL. So because it's different, it's "okay" to not use your brain and not be just a tiny bit strategic? You can use all the strategy you want. You'll sometimes find that people will disagree, not care, or not react with your straregy on your team though, so for simplicicity sake, you play your own to your best. And what does that have anything to do with what C sheep wrote? Why would i care about my 4 other team mates, when i'm picking for a solo lane? The strategy i'm talking about, is not being a total derp and picking something where you either: a) Have strong confidence that the opponent cannot hard-counter you and rape you into oblivion b) Have strong confidence in your assumingly counter-pick (say you picked malphite vs. pantheon), making sure your opponent cannot out-smart you (pantheon goes jungle, they send rumble top).
Imagine the following scenario:
You're first pick in a solo q game.
You want to play mid.
You want to play a mid that get's hard countered by Kassadin.
You ban Kassadin and pick your mid.
WTF is so hard to understand lol
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On July 24 2012 19:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2012 19:29 Sponkz wrote:On July 24 2012 19:26 Fuzzmosis wrote:On July 24 2012 19:21 Sponkz wrote:On July 24 2012 18:50 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On July 24 2012 17:59 Sponkz wrote:On July 24 2012 17:42 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
So many people like to bandwagon on the "lol u ban Kass you noob" train, but TBH, there are pretty good reasons Kassadin are banned.
Yes he has a crapton of hard counters, ranging from braindead champ select counters to good laning/itemization, but honestly, he's a very very annoying hero to deal with in an unorganized, solo queue environment. Snowball + mobility = attractive reasons to ban him.
Besides, if you want to FP someone that just gets shit on by Kass, what's wrong with banning him...? Why would you FP something that gets shit on by something anyways? Unless you're FP'ing morgana or malphite, you should wait with mid/top picks anyways. Because solo q LoL is a completely different game than "competitive" LoL. So because it's different, it's "okay" to not use your brain and not be just a tiny bit strategic? You can use all the strategy you want. You'll sometimes find that people will disagree, not care, or not react with your straregy on your team though, so for simplicicity sake, you play your own to your best. And what does that have anything to do with what C sheep wrote? Why would i care about my 4 other team mates, when i'm picking for a solo lane? The strategy i'm talking about, is not being a total derp and picking something where you either: a) Have strong confidence that the opponent cannot hard-counter you and rape you into oblivion b) Have strong confidence in your assumingly counter-pick (say you picked malphite vs. pantheon), making sure your opponent cannot out-smart you (pantheon goes jungle, they send rumble top). Imagine the following scenario: You're first pick in a solo q game. You want to play mid You want to play a mid that get's hard countered by Kassadin. You ban Kassadin and pick your mid. WTF is so hard to understand lol
Why would you even FP mid anyways. What champion(s) get hard countered by kassadin, but not by per say; cassiopeia, ahri or something else?
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On July 24 2012 19:59 Sponkz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2012 19:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On July 24 2012 19:29 Sponkz wrote:On July 24 2012 19:26 Fuzzmosis wrote:On July 24 2012 19:21 Sponkz wrote:On July 24 2012 18:50 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On July 24 2012 17:59 Sponkz wrote:On July 24 2012 17:42 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
So many people like to bandwagon on the "lol u ban Kass you noob" train, but TBH, there are pretty good reasons Kassadin are banned.
Yes he has a crapton of hard counters, ranging from braindead champ select counters to good laning/itemization, but honestly, he's a very very annoying hero to deal with in an unorganized, solo queue environment. Snowball + mobility = attractive reasons to ban him.
Besides, if you want to FP someone that just gets shit on by Kass, what's wrong with banning him...? Why would you FP something that gets shit on by something anyways? Unless you're FP'ing morgana or malphite, you should wait with mid/top picks anyways. Because solo q LoL is a completely different game than "competitive" LoL. So because it's different, it's "okay" to not use your brain and not be just a tiny bit strategic? You can use all the strategy you want. You'll sometimes find that people will disagree, not care, or not react with your straregy on your team though, so for simplicicity sake, you play your own to your best. And what does that have anything to do with what C sheep wrote? Why would i care about my 4 other team mates, when i'm picking for a solo lane? The strategy i'm talking about, is not being a total derp and picking something where you either: a) Have strong confidence that the opponent cannot hard-counter you and rape you into oblivion b) Have strong confidence in your assumingly counter-pick (say you picked malphite vs. pantheon), making sure your opponent cannot out-smart you (pantheon goes jungle, they send rumble top). Imagine the following scenario: You're first pick in a solo q game. You want to play mid You want to play a mid that get's hard countered by Kassadin. You ban Kassadin and pick your mid. WTF is so hard to understand lol Why would you even FP mid anyways. What champion(s) get hard countered by kassadin, but not by per say; cassiopeia, ahri or something else?
"You're first pick in a solo q game.
You want to play mid"
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Change your mentality and/or your desired roles then lol. How hard is THAT to understand?
EDIT: Unless you don't care of course
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On July 24 2012 18:51 Hakanfrog wrote:
Umm since we´re discussing it anyways, how does one deal with amumu? Besides trying to steal his blue I actually have no clue. I try to counterjungle a lot but then he still gets ahead because of ulti ganks, then in teamfights he just bandages to our frontline then flash ults the carry, and since nobody buys QSS or BV at 1300 ELO it´s auto loss.
Aside from taking his blue, Amumu doesn't really care if you counterjungle him too much. His clear speed is really good and he has Bandage Toss to give him mobility between camps. So, even if you take his Wraiths, he is clearing Golems and Wolves quickly and those camps are spawning well. Sure, he will fall behind, but, that only hurts his ability to tank, not to initiate.
Most success will come from trying to find him and kill him in his own jungle. As long as you pick a strong damage jungler like Lee Sin, Shyvana, Udyr, Skarner, Mundo, he shouldn't be able to fight you. Just keep an eye on the movements of the enemy laners, nothing worse than getting 2v1'd in their jungle. Support-tank junglers like Maokai, Alistar, Malphite, Nautlius aren't going to do much to Amumu, so your time is better spent on trying to gank and snowball your lanes.
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http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=27328843#27328843
Rumble's getting nerfed, looking at the numbers it's pretty easy to see why, as phreak puts it:
"The ability is basically free, has a 6-second cooldown, 450 base damage, and 1.2 AP ratio.
The dude casts rank 1 Crowstorm faster than most casters cast regular abilities.
Only reason it was balanced before was because it didn't hit half the time. It does now."
It does even more damage in danger zone.
117 / 234 / 351 / 468 / 585 (+1.755 per ability power)
It was so stupid trying to play against rumble, Even on jax. I jump him when he's high on heat, he gets one flamethrower off and overheats, I counterstrike to dodge his autos and the bonus magic damage and proceed to whale on him. NBD for rumble, if I don't kill him with that combo, he'll outdamage anything else I can throw at him for the next 18 seconds.
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On July 24 2012 19:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2012 19:29 Sponkz wrote:On July 24 2012 19:26 Fuzzmosis wrote:On July 24 2012 19:21 Sponkz wrote:On July 24 2012 18:50 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On July 24 2012 17:59 Sponkz wrote:On July 24 2012 17:42 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
So many people like to bandwagon on the "lol u ban Kass you noob" train, but TBH, there are pretty good reasons Kassadin are banned.
Yes he has a crapton of hard counters, ranging from braindead champ select counters to good laning/itemization, but honestly, he's a very very annoying hero to deal with in an unorganized, solo queue environment. Snowball + mobility = attractive reasons to ban him.
Besides, if you want to FP someone that just gets shit on by Kass, what's wrong with banning him...? Why would you FP something that gets shit on by something anyways? Unless you're FP'ing morgana or malphite, you should wait with mid/top picks anyways. Because solo q LoL is a completely different game than "competitive" LoL. So because it's different, it's "okay" to not use your brain and not be just a tiny bit strategic? You can use all the strategy you want. You'll sometimes find that people will disagree, not care, or not react with your straregy on your team though, so for simplicicity sake, you play your own to your best. And what does that have anything to do with what C sheep wrote? Why would i care about my 4 other team mates, when i'm picking for a solo lane? The strategy i'm talking about, is not being a total derp and picking something where you either: a) Have strong confidence that the opponent cannot hard-counter you and rape you into oblivion b) Have strong confidence in your assumingly counter-pick (say you picked malphite vs. pantheon), making sure your opponent cannot out-smart you (pantheon goes jungle, they send rumble top). Imagine the following scenario: You're first pick in a solo q game. You want to play mid. You want to play a mid that get's hard countered by Kassadin. You ban Kassadin and pick your mid. WTF is so hard to understand lol
Most of the time when I see kassa banned they pick a regular mid that would do good vs kass anyway, people ban him because he was banned for a while, almost no one bans him because they want to play a certain mid.
It's the case with most bans, they're annoying to play against or really strong, I just don't think kassa is one of them.
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On July 24 2012 19:59 Sponkz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2012 19:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On July 24 2012 19:29 Sponkz wrote:On July 24 2012 19:26 Fuzzmosis wrote:On July 24 2012 19:21 Sponkz wrote:On July 24 2012 18:50 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On July 24 2012 17:59 Sponkz wrote:On July 24 2012 17:42 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
So many people like to bandwagon on the "lol u ban Kass you noob" train, but TBH, there are pretty good reasons Kassadin are banned.
Yes he has a crapton of hard counters, ranging from braindead champ select counters to good laning/itemization, but honestly, he's a very very annoying hero to deal with in an unorganized, solo queue environment. Snowball + mobility = attractive reasons to ban him.
Besides, if you want to FP someone that just gets shit on by Kass, what's wrong with banning him...? Why would you FP something that gets shit on by something anyways? Unless you're FP'ing morgana or malphite, you should wait with mid/top picks anyways. Because solo q LoL is a completely different game than "competitive" LoL. So because it's different, it's "okay" to not use your brain and not be just a tiny bit strategic? You can use all the strategy you want. You'll sometimes find that people will disagree, not care, or not react with your straregy on your team though, so for simplicicity sake, you play your own to your best. And what does that have anything to do with what C sheep wrote? Why would i care about my 4 other team mates, when i'm picking for a solo lane? The strategy i'm talking about, is not being a total derp and picking something where you either: a) Have strong confidence that the opponent cannot hard-counter you and rape you into oblivion b) Have strong confidence in your assumingly counter-pick (say you picked malphite vs. pantheon), making sure your opponent cannot out-smart you (pantheon goes jungle, they send rumble top). Imagine the following scenario: You're first pick in a solo q game. You want to play mid You want to play a mid that get's hard countered by Kassadin. You ban Kassadin and pick your mid. WTF is so hard to understand lol Why would you even FP mid anyways. What champion(s) get hard countered by kassadin, but not by per say; cassiopeia, ahri or something else?
Can't afraid, always fp mid
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i think it's cause there are a lot of people who pick kass just cause he's "op" and aren't good, because a good one is very annoying to play against lol...
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Well, y'know, maybe I would win every single game if I played jungle Yi. I don't know. But I don't find it fun. So even if I'm first pick I'm not playing jungle Yi. Simple as that.
Same with counters: if I can counterpick my lane with the champ I intended to play, then yay. If I can with a champ I enjoy to play, that's good too. But I wouldn't play Fizz just to counterpick the enemy mid since I find him boring, for example.
Also, Zyra's plants' damage based on Zyra's level. 26 + 6xlevel + 0.2 AP damage.
Let's say you're level 18 with 300 AP (not that hard), your plants do almost 200 physical damage per attack. On top of the burst coming from your spells.
Even with the "additional plants deal 25% less damage when they attack the same target", that's still hella hard.
Also 99 + 25xlevel true damage on her passive, no way she won't at least gib a squishy if she doesn't die isolated.
On July 24 2012 20:11 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2012 19:59 Sponkz wrote:On July 24 2012 19:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On July 24 2012 19:29 Sponkz wrote:On July 24 2012 19:26 Fuzzmosis wrote:On July 24 2012 19:21 Sponkz wrote:On July 24 2012 18:50 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On July 24 2012 17:59 Sponkz wrote:On July 24 2012 17:42 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
So many people like to bandwagon on the "lol u ban Kass you noob" train, but TBH, there are pretty good reasons Kassadin are banned.
Yes he has a crapton of hard counters, ranging from braindead champ select counters to good laning/itemization, but honestly, he's a very very annoying hero to deal with in an unorganized, solo queue environment. Snowball + mobility = attractive reasons to ban him.
Besides, if you want to FP someone that just gets shit on by Kass, what's wrong with banning him...? Why would you FP something that gets shit on by something anyways? Unless you're FP'ing morgana or malphite, you should wait with mid/top picks anyways. Because solo q LoL is a completely different game than "competitive" LoL. So because it's different, it's "okay" to not use your brain and not be just a tiny bit strategic? You can use all the strategy you want. You'll sometimes find that people will disagree, not care, or not react with your straregy on your team though, so for simplicicity sake, you play your own to your best. And what does that have anything to do with what C sheep wrote? Why would i care about my 4 other team mates, when i'm picking for a solo lane? The strategy i'm talking about, is not being a total derp and picking something where you either: a) Have strong confidence that the opponent cannot hard-counter you and rape you into oblivion b) Have strong confidence in your assumingly counter-pick (say you picked malphite vs. pantheon), making sure your opponent cannot out-smart you (pantheon goes jungle, they send rumble top). Imagine the following scenario: You're first pick in a solo q game. You want to play mid You want to play a mid that get's hard countered by Kassadin. You ban Kassadin and pick your mid. WTF is so hard to understand lol Why would you even FP mid anyways. What champion(s) get hard countered by kassadin, but not by per say; cassiopeia, ahri or something else? Can't afraid, always fp mid
Always give up fb
Always carry?
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On July 24 2012 20:06 JackDino wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2012 19:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On July 24 2012 19:29 Sponkz wrote:On July 24 2012 19:26 Fuzzmosis wrote:On July 24 2012 19:21 Sponkz wrote:On July 24 2012 18:50 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On July 24 2012 17:59 Sponkz wrote:On July 24 2012 17:42 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
So many people like to bandwagon on the "lol u ban Kass you noob" train, but TBH, there are pretty good reasons Kassadin are banned.
Yes he has a crapton of hard counters, ranging from braindead champ select counters to good laning/itemization, but honestly, he's a very very annoying hero to deal with in an unorganized, solo queue environment. Snowball + mobility = attractive reasons to ban him.
Besides, if you want to FP someone that just gets shit on by Kass, what's wrong with banning him...? Why would you FP something that gets shit on by something anyways? Unless you're FP'ing morgana or malphite, you should wait with mid/top picks anyways. Because solo q LoL is a completely different game than "competitive" LoL. So because it's different, it's "okay" to not use your brain and not be just a tiny bit strategic? You can use all the strategy you want. You'll sometimes find that people will disagree, not care, or not react with your straregy on your team though, so for simplicicity sake, you play your own to your best. And what does that have anything to do with what C sheep wrote? Why would i care about my 4 other team mates, when i'm picking for a solo lane? The strategy i'm talking about, is not being a total derp and picking something where you either: a) Have strong confidence that the opponent cannot hard-counter you and rape you into oblivion b) Have strong confidence in your assumingly counter-pick (say you picked malphite vs. pantheon), making sure your opponent cannot out-smart you (pantheon goes jungle, they send rumble top). Imagine the following scenario: You're first pick in a solo q game. You want to play mid. You want to play a mid that get's hard countered by Kassadin. You ban Kassadin and pick your mid. WTF is so hard to understand lol Most of the time when I see kassa banned they pick a regular mid that would do good vs kass anyway, people ban him because he was banned for a while, almost no one bans him because they want to play a certain mid. It's the case with most bans, they're annoying to play against or really strong, I just don't think kassa is one of them.
As it stands now, there's very little reason to ban kassadin over banning someone like ahri if playing a weaker mid. It's more of the fact that it's really annoying to play against, you have to go a bit out of your way in order to live the lane.
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On July 24 2012 20:19 Lmui wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2012 20:06 JackDino wrote:On July 24 2012 19:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On July 24 2012 19:29 Sponkz wrote:On July 24 2012 19:26 Fuzzmosis wrote:On July 24 2012 19:21 Sponkz wrote:On July 24 2012 18:50 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On July 24 2012 17:59 Sponkz wrote:On July 24 2012 17:42 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
So many people like to bandwagon on the "lol u ban Kass you noob" train, but TBH, there are pretty good reasons Kassadin are banned.
Yes he has a crapton of hard counters, ranging from braindead champ select counters to good laning/itemization, but honestly, he's a very very annoying hero to deal with in an unorganized, solo queue environment. Snowball + mobility = attractive reasons to ban him.
Besides, if you want to FP someone that just gets shit on by Kass, what's wrong with banning him...? Why would you FP something that gets shit on by something anyways? Unless you're FP'ing morgana or malphite, you should wait with mid/top picks anyways. Because solo q LoL is a completely different game than "competitive" LoL. So because it's different, it's "okay" to not use your brain and not be just a tiny bit strategic? You can use all the strategy you want. You'll sometimes find that people will disagree, not care, or not react with your straregy on your team though, so for simplicicity sake, you play your own to your best. And what does that have anything to do with what C sheep wrote? Why would i care about my 4 other team mates, when i'm picking for a solo lane? The strategy i'm talking about, is not being a total derp and picking something where you either: a) Have strong confidence that the opponent cannot hard-counter you and rape you into oblivion b) Have strong confidence in your assumingly counter-pick (say you picked malphite vs. pantheon), making sure your opponent cannot out-smart you (pantheon goes jungle, they send rumble top). Imagine the following scenario: You're first pick in a solo q game. You want to play mid. You want to play a mid that get's hard countered by Kassadin. You ban Kassadin and pick your mid. WTF is so hard to understand lol Most of the time when I see kassa banned they pick a regular mid that would do good vs kass anyway, people ban him because he was banned for a while, almost no one bans him because they want to play a certain mid. It's the case with most bans, they're annoying to play against or really strong, I just don't think kassa is one of them. As it stands now, there's very little reason to ban kassadin over banning someone like ahri if playing a weaker mid. It's more of the fact that it's really annoying to play against, you have to go a bit out of your way in order to live the lane.
easier to dodge skillshots than point and click nuke
example: kass terrifies me if i'm playing veigar, i pick veigar into ahri
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On July 24 2012 19:48 Slayer91 wrote:
What if there's someone else who is also a threat to your ad...
Then it sounds like the enemy team is way ahead of your team. Deserved loss.
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On July 24 2012 20:20 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2012 20:19 Lmui wrote:On July 24 2012 20:06 JackDino wrote:On July 24 2012 19:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On July 24 2012 19:29 Sponkz wrote:On July 24 2012 19:26 Fuzzmosis wrote:On July 24 2012 19:21 Sponkz wrote:On July 24 2012 18:50 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On July 24 2012 17:59 Sponkz wrote:On July 24 2012 17:42 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
So many people like to bandwagon on the "lol u ban Kass you noob" train, but TBH, there are pretty good reasons Kassadin are banned.
Yes he has a crapton of hard counters, ranging from braindead champ select counters to good laning/itemization, but honestly, he's a very very annoying hero to deal with in an unorganized, solo queue environment. Snowball + mobility = attractive reasons to ban him.
Besides, if you want to FP someone that just gets shit on by Kass, what's wrong with banning him...? Why would you FP something that gets shit on by something anyways? Unless you're FP'ing morgana or malphite, you should wait with mid/top picks anyways. Because solo q LoL is a completely different game than "competitive" LoL. So because it's different, it's "okay" to not use your brain and not be just a tiny bit strategic? You can use all the strategy you want. You'll sometimes find that people will disagree, not care, or not react with your straregy on your team though, so for simplicicity sake, you play your own to your best. And what does that have anything to do with what C sheep wrote? Why would i care about my 4 other team mates, when i'm picking for a solo lane? The strategy i'm talking about, is not being a total derp and picking something where you either: a) Have strong confidence that the opponent cannot hard-counter you and rape you into oblivion b) Have strong confidence in your assumingly counter-pick (say you picked malphite vs. pantheon), making sure your opponent cannot out-smart you (pantheon goes jungle, they send rumble top). Imagine the following scenario: You're first pick in a solo q game. You want to play mid. You want to play a mid that get's hard countered by Kassadin. You ban Kassadin and pick your mid. WTF is so hard to understand lol Most of the time when I see kassa banned they pick a regular mid that would do good vs kass anyway, people ban him because he was banned for a while, almost no one bans him because they want to play a certain mid. It's the case with most bans, they're annoying to play against or really strong, I just don't think kassa is one of them. As it stands now, there's very little reason to ban kassadin over banning someone like ahri if playing a weaker mid. It's more of the fact that it's really annoying to play against, you have to go a bit out of your way in order to live the lane. easier to dodge skillshots than point and click nuke example: kass terrifies me if i'm playing veigar, i pick veigar into ahri
I'm going to attribute the difference to the fact that good ahri's are a dime a dozen in soloQ compared the relatively tiny (in comparison) collection of good kassadins in soloQ. I agree that good kassadin's are extremely difficult to deal with but generally, if I have a long autoattack range champion, semi-cheesing them with AD runes and the AD mastery instead of AP is generally enough to crush the lane pre-6.
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Froggen playing Viktor on stream, wish I didn't have to drive to work.
Someone lemme know how it goes.
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Oh shit. There goes my break, I'll post.
He's starting with 20 AP and 47 MR, I wonder where masteries go in this. I guess he took the AP masteries to reach this, and MR quints.
He's playing a Ryze who started E and, well... got an assist when enemy jungler got caught, Ryze followed, and got killed too. He's gonna ride that I guess.
Nvm he misses a lot of lasers (and seems to have trouble cs-ing with autos) so Ryze isn't that bullied and when Froggen gets cocky Lee Sin comes and Ryze flash-W then kills Froggen. He overestimated his damage and the ult didn't kill Ryze despite the DoT, twice.
He's pretty timid in his pokes, doesn't really hit lasers on Ryze. Right now after NLR (before sorcs) he killed me thanks to Snoopeh's Trundle using a pillar to keep Ryze into the DoT's AoE. He's under pressure tho because the enemy Riven top has been pretty fed and whenever she roams he's in danger.
Yeah, it's over now. Hard to tell past laning-phase as Kennen made that Riven maybe 4-2, then her clean-up kills on Froggen when he dived and she ganked mid, they're 3 towers down to one killed, and despite ahead in drakes Kennen's useless and giving kills to Ryze too.
In laning Froggen wasn't very aggressive nor pokey, though he didn't push much either as Ryze had him under his tower several times (I was frankly surprised). He didn't really ward either so... And as often with Viktor if you don't poke enough you've got to run like a retard tower your opponent and his tower for your ult to move fast enough to finish them off. When it kills them.
He's got his deathcap so he's still pretty much insta gibbing Corki and Janna if he can EQR one of them without Janna putting her shield/ult on. He's missing a ton of lasers tho, even in poking phases.
They lost. Enemy team really ahead, they were trying to catch back up by farming while defending, then at a nashor attempt by enemy team Snoopeh goes too far, Janna simply walks past him and ults him into the pit (and her team) as they finish, he's instagibbed and Froggen didn't retreat from the bush Janna sent him into, so he dies unsuccessfully trying to kill somebody instead of running.
I've got no sound so I can't tell if he commentated or gave opinions or anything.
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On July 24 2012 19:29 Sponkz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2012 19:26 Fuzzmosis wrote:On July 24 2012 19:21 Sponkz wrote:On July 24 2012 18:50 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On July 24 2012 17:59 Sponkz wrote:On July 24 2012 17:42 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
So many people like to bandwagon on the "lol u ban Kass you noob" train, but TBH, there are pretty good reasons Kassadin are banned.
Yes he has a crapton of hard counters, ranging from braindead champ select counters to good laning/itemization, but honestly, he's a very very annoying hero to deal with in an unorganized, solo queue environment. Snowball + mobility = attractive reasons to ban him.
Besides, if you want to FP someone that just gets shit on by Kass, what's wrong with banning him...? Why would you FP something that gets shit on by something anyways? Unless you're FP'ing morgana or malphite, you should wait with mid/top picks anyways. Because solo q LoL is a completely different game than "competitive" LoL. So because it's different, it's "okay" to not use your brain and not be just a tiny bit strategic? You can use all the strategy you want. You'll sometimes find that people will disagree, not care, or not react with your straregy on your team though, so for simplicicity sake, you play your own to your best. And what does that have anything to do with what C sheep wrote? Why would i care about my 4 other team mates, when i'm picking for a solo lane? The strategy i'm talking about, is not being a total derp and picking something where you either: a) Have strong confidence that the opponent cannot hard-counter you and rape you into oblivion b) Have strong confidence in your assumingly counter-pick (say you picked malphite vs. pantheon), making sure your opponent cannot out-smart you (pantheon goes jungle, they send rumble top).
A) Soloque Low ELO and Medium ELO players may not realize what counters what. I've beaten a Riven Toplane as new Twitch.
B) Now you're just asking them to counter jungle and lane with your pick
So, the answer is what was in the thread "Just pick who you're confident with" You said and not first pick top and mid. Which involves your 4 other teammates in most situations and strategy. I don't even know what you're angry about. Or talking about anymore.
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If they do not realize what a counter-pick is, then maybe they should learn that, then queue for ranked, to gain free elo?
You shouldn't worry about your team mates in solo queue, they always suck (as the enemy team does aswell).
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EPT
